Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

They posted this yesterday. The coordinates are for the San Diego Convention Centre so assume there'll be a release date announcement at comic con in a couple of weeks

Coordinates set. Prepare for flip and burn. pic.twitter.com/ruPiwmLlRX

— The Expanse (@ExpanseOnPrime) June 25, 2019

rewatching from s1e1: miller gets his stupid hat lampshade hung at just 7 mins in

first holden sex-butt shot is a p much hard cut from some guy's arm being squished off ("stand by for thrust correction"

I thought it was pretty funny that there was zero-g boning in the first 10 minutes of the show and then no one so much as kisses for the rest of the season.

that's they mean by "stand by for thrust correction"

lol it's mike from breaking bad in a micro-role

head-knocked-off scene still good

a neat little thing is when a belter on ganymede sprays a "remember the cant" graffiti (with a pic of holden beside it) and the spraycan does the entire correct slogan and image in one preprogrammed sweep

(i mean, i assume CAD spray-beds exist that can do this now but this was just a little just-shaken hand-held)

At times I've wondered whether Ashford's character was a rewritten Anderson Dawes once they realised Jared Harris had other commitments

there was an Ashford character in the book, though he was a bit different ... and Drummer basically stands in for two different characters ... so, i don't think so, but on the other hand, maybe the writers' idea was to substitute Dawes for the book captain?

don't think i grasped before (ftb sleepy inattention) that the anderson station story is a flashback and an origin story

i love protomolecule glitch Miller

more hot takes from mark s: alex is good from start to finish

i kind of like holden more also

(also he's definitely got younger since i first watched)

rewatching from s2e1: enter bobbie draper

Bobbie is probably my favorite character on the whole show

holden (the second worst character after miller): "alex? make us look like something that got dropped"
alex (the second best* character after bobbie): "you got it hoss"

*i will not be taking questions at this time

My initial reaction to Alex was “come on” but over time he grew on me to reach the top tier (along with Drummer)

drivers and drummers

ok I may take this show from the top again. It's really so very good.

squash klaxon

"not dead! [exultant pause] becoming!!"

does the "becoming" trope come from red dragon? like when weirdos are excitedly explaining why they do horrific stuff? "it's not me, i'm becoming"

"i've heard that shit in bars, i thought it was just bad music"

(insert amos in cafe oto gag here_

has there been IRL mormon comment on the nauvoo hijack? i mean it's fiction but i's still a bit of a burn

I know I said this before, but the show is full of the most interesting faces

it's very well cast

Amos in particular, the way his face seems to flicker back and forth between wide-eyed innocence and dead-eyed sociopathy is amazing.

amos really really really reminds me the young steven wells in look and now (and then in manner)

BONE DENSITY ENHANCER

welcome back to earth dudes

gunny is a slur

(i mean i guess it's not but it feels super-patronising whenever anyone uses it)

I still haven't figured whether to read the second book or start with the second season. Hmm

The first season finished about half way through the second book, but the plot started to diverge. If that helps.

super-patronising?

I had a uncle in the US Marines who made E-7 before mustering out. Some gunnery sergeants are indeed still called gunny, with affection.

i'm sure but in the show

a good thing is that s2 and s3 are both 13 eps long (10 is a bad and stuid number which shd fuck off)

also: the way her superior officers treated bobbie in the U confirms my sense that gunny is a slur (to them)

Probably officer vs. enlisted tensions.

of course but these are kind of baked into the situation in any case

"is there a plan b?"
"yeah! make sure plan a works!"

other enlisted marines will use gunny as a term of respect because duh, that probably means they’re your boss

navy officers use gunny as a replacement for the second person pronoun, with baggage

that probably means they’re your boss

wait who's whose boss?

this wasn't at all obvious as i originally wrote it but my abreaction was purely in response to its usage in this show: where lines of are somewhat corrupted by the fact that the high-ups are all* scheming arseholes who treat lower-downs as contemptible pawns and worse (so that even if neutral or affectionate usage occurs here -- as y'all say it does IRL hoss -- it's poisoned by viewer doubts abt the users and their agendas)**

*even the "good" ones
**noticed at all bcz "gunny" is more a regional term perhaps than other possible names for ranks (but this is probably why it was chosen in the first place)

a gunnery sergeant in the USMC is in the upper echelon of the enlisted hierarchy

bobbie's strength as a character is possibly that she's the only (lasting) person who actually believes in military ideals as ideals (and martian military ideals as ideals): everyone else is more or less sardonic or cynical towards same, so that their appeals to esprit de corps always ring hollow (amusingly when yr one of her men i guess, and nastily when yr one of her superiors)

Alex believes in in Them too but for him it was just a means to an end, flying spaceships, whereas Bobby, at least at the start, is a true believer in the Martian project.

ok but that's not quite the same thing as i'm talking about really: she can break with the martian hierarchy bcz she's drawn to the professed ideals, it's not so much the project she believes in as what she's been brought up to believe the project represents

(she prefaces her turning point with a story abt her dad telling a lie, albeit a comfortable lie)

the crew of the rossie are all also idealists sorta-kinda but not really inflected thru an official ideology? alex is martian and certainly has residual martian loyalties -- and can get riled up when martian stuff is dissed -- but i don't think he gives a stuff abt the project or what it represents

(his deep loyalty is to the rossie itself: at the close of s2 he has a very fireflyish speech abt "she's beat up but she'll fly right")

Can't read this thread until I catch up, but man is this show good—pacing, music, characters, themes, direction. I keep waiting for it to go south like Star Trek: Discovery or Battlestar Galactica, but it's as if the whole series had been created as a whole before airing, without a care in the world for whether it gets canceled.

I never thought of "gunny" as being derogatory? I thought it was a reference to common US military nicknames? Like calling a Lieutenant "El-Tee" -- you would call a Gunnery Sergeant "Gunny"?

And the Gunnery Sergeant would be "Gunny" to differentiate them from a Staff Sergeant or other Sergeant who would be "Sarge"?

outside this show: likely not derogatory much of the time (caveat: i have not served and have only encountered this term in the context of fictio)
within this show, as said by others at bobbie: often if not always somewhat sneering in my opinion