You only have to look at the front pages of the Telegraph, Mail, Sun, etc, to know there is a coordinated effort by the rich and influential to make Johnson PM.
Mail seems to not like him much. Although will presumably swing behind him for the sake of The Nation's Unity once he's in No.10.
― Ned Trifle X, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 11:55 (four years ago) link
this "tories can always always pull off unity at a pinch" is one of the things i'm no longer that sure of -- at some point the press oligarchs aren't all going to be all on the same side, we already live in a media world shaped by their unfettered crank whims, and the lower reaches of the party are swirling around like deranged clots of minions
― mark s, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 12:01 (four years ago) link
boris extends a challenge to cunt: 'will you join me in signing a suicide pact'
If I become PM, we will leave the EU on 31st October, deal or no deal. Today I have asked @Jeremy_Hunt whether he will also commit to this date, no matter what. We must keep our promises to the British people and deliver Brexit - no ifs, no buts, and no second referendum. pic.twitter.com/YgRSfESSFY— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) June 25, 2019
― big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
"i'm not locked into this leadership contest with *you*"
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
border poll now
I've got Welsh blood, Irish blood and spent two happy years of my childhood in Scotland. I will NEVER allow our union to be broken up. #BoJoNoShow https://t.co/iuodJJkoB8— Jeremy Hunt (@Jeremy_Hunt) June 25, 2019
― govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link
'Blood is thicker than water' refers to the Irish Sea iirc.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link
Johnson and Cunt to discuss their positions on the Irish border today, might wanna brace ourselves for that one
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 07:39 (four years ago) link
last one to declare war on ireland is a rotten egg
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 08:13 (four years ago) link
Take a drink whenever they mention a technological solution. Fully automated luxury border controls.
― fetter, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 08:24 (four years ago) link
The *funny* thing is that all that nonsense had already been thoroughly debunked/dismissed and yet here we are again!
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 08:28 (four years ago) link
no but you see it'll all be different if the eu are facing boris' irrepressible british pluck or jeremy cunt's hollowed-out death stare across the negotiating table, they'll immediately agree that brexit is good and they should give us whatever we demand
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 08:35 (four years ago) link
time to wheel this one out again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxpYW_w5pgo
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 08:41 (four years ago) link
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n13/james-wood/diary
^ can't say I got much out of this - just about worth a read but one of the things that it lacks: the fallout from Brexit could actually be the thing that breaks the Johnsons, Camerons and Rees-Moog's of this country. Its too easy to say they will get away with it just because that's how things have always been. They've had to adapt for their wealth (from Land to Hedge fund, although I am not sure that is even correct). Its not a thing I expect James Wood to get, not his beat anyway.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link
his beat is being wrong about things
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link
.@Jeremy_Hunt: “When I went to Auschwitz I rather complacently said to myself, ‘thank goodness we don’t have to worry about that kind of thing in the UK’ and now I find myself faced with the leader of @UKLabour who has opened the door to antisemitism”https://t.co/cVn4fUB1hc— Jewish News (@JewishNewsUK) July 2, 2019
Useful reminder that Hunt is every bit as malign as the other one.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
Imagine going to Auschwitz and your takeaway being "this could never happen in MY country".
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 09:30 (four years ago) link
he's a fucking embarrassment.
― calzino, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link
Proud of y’all for getting on the humiliating buffoon as head of state train, it only took you three years
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link
personally head of state since 1952, formally head of state since i guess 1660: https://media.wmagazine.com/photos/5c2e6622f79bcc2d7b5a6262/4:3/w_1536/queen-elizabeth-frown.jpg
we've been on the train for a long time
― mark s, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:30 (four years ago) link
It's more of a trollybus
― nashwan, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link
nearly threw dab radio into a canal when Blunkett was telling a "hilarious" royal brown-nosing anecdote on last Friday's AQ to HUGE APPLAUSE and UPROARIOUS LAUGHTER. arrrgh!
― calzino, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link
Sorry, head of government, not head of state. I’m hungover at the airport lounge.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link
*tooled-up beefeaters head for the airport at a run*
― mark s, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link
lol
Tory leadership hopeful Jeremy Hunt admits he wants to bring back fox huntinghttps://t.co/Jns7f5G0Sx pic.twitter.com/bFvCk5EYxF— Mirror Politics (@MirrorPolitics) July 3, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link
💥Surge of anger about this from Jeremy Hunt. One Tory MP who was backing him now threatening to spoil their ballot. “Any doubt about whether he was just Theresa in trousers now removed”. Memories of the issue in 2017 GE still raw for some....💥 https://t.co/QNsJkhfhff— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) July 3, 2019
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link
Foreign onlooker q: when does BoJo vs Hunt actually get decided
― Simon H., Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
monday 22nd july
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link
Conspiracy theory: the Countryside Alliance policy he announced yesterday is to game the Google algorithm to bury any announcements about Liam Fox supporting Jeremy Hunt.
It really is a huge, huge deal to a large proportion of the only people who matter, though, iirc. Banning fox hunting is their Vatican II.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 4 July 2019 06:02 (four years ago) link
doesn't play well w the other people who matter (voters) though iirc
― ||||||||, Thursday, 4 July 2019 06:10 (four years ago) link
xp lol
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 4 July 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link
xxp the hint that they would look at bringing it back in 2017 was electorally toxic though
― gyac, Thursday, 4 July 2019 06:45 (four years ago) link
citation: second word cloud on this post https://www.britishelectionstudy.com/bes-findings/what-was-it-all-about-the-2017-election-campaign-in-voters-own-words/(An issue that voters specifically cited as changing the way they thought about the parties)Labour made hay out of that and the ivory trading policy.
― gyac, Thursday, 4 July 2019 06:49 (four years ago) link
maybe he should offer to bring back death penalty as a twofer with fox hunting ban repeal as well and ratchet up the empty threats against China, he sure sounds very commanding and tough in Beijing and not all like some weak sap playing to the gallery and has all their attention.
― calzino, Thursday, 4 July 2019 06:54 (four years ago) link
Another Tory MP texts:“How the f**k is fox hunting a priority right now!?!? By the weekend Hunt will have announced an urgent vote on other highly pressing issues like moving the chart show back to Sunday afternoons.”— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) July 3, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 4 July 2019 06:55 (four years ago) link
what are these "serious consequences" he's threatening against China? lol thermonuclear war ... biscuit tariffs?
― calzino, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:03 (four years ago) link
It reads like a very desperate move from Hunt who doesn't otherwise strike me as caring much about fox hunting at all.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:13 (four years ago) link
Hunt's priority is winning the leadership election. He's probably counting on the broader electorate having other things to worry about by the time the next General comes around.
It's a totemic issue for the grassroots and likely to also be aimed to convey the message that he'll come through on the things May promised and was too weak to deliver.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:17 (four years ago) link
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XZc0KI-srXM/hqdefault.jpg
― calzino, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:17 (four years ago) link
(xxxp) That doesn't sound like something a Tory MP would say, anonymously or not.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:18 (four years ago) link
I feel like you could work out who that person was if you were so minded - likely to be younger than your average member, possibly in a non-rural marginal, of an age to remember when the chart show was on a Sunday...
― gyac, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:21 (four years ago) link
Maybe it's a Cameron-type Tory. They probably want to keep a low profile. xp
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:22 (four years ago) link
Nick Boles?
― calzino, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:23 (four years ago) link
Why not bring back hanging while we’re about it? And the birch. They’re ancient English customs after all. And bound to be popular among the older party members.— Nick Boles MP (@NickBoles) July 3, 2019
― calzino, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:27 (four years ago) link
He’s gone, remember “oh no Nick don’t go?” I know it was a century ago but still.
― gyac, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:27 (four years ago) link
oops yeah..
― calzino, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:29 (four years ago) link
"I would have been very unhappy if the chart show was used to make a political point" Tory MP John Whittingdale. So ban all political songs?— Neil Harding (@NeilHarding) April 12, 2013
― gyac, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:29 (four years ago) link
btw Hunt's comments were a lot to take for Aaro, which is amusing:
Been busy most of the day. I've just now read Jeremy Hunt's comments about Auschwitz and Corbyn. They manage to be demeaning to everyone involved, including the Jewish community. Through naivete or calculation He's managed to make the profoundest issue into a cheap partisan jibe.— David Aaronovitch (@DAaronovitch) July 3, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:30 (four years ago) link
We’ll be waiting forever for that penny to drop.
― gyac, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:31 (four years ago) link
re the fox hunting, In 'normal' times it might make sense to try outflank Boris, he's a rank outsider and needs a roll of the dice. But Brexit has taken over to such an extent, do the members have eyes for anything else?
I'd say the fact he obviously doesn't gaf about it himself mutes its appeal, totemic or not, it doesn't make him one of them. Suspicion already high that politicians don't 'believe', think his lack of authenticity on this will count against. As Matt DC says, a desperate move, but don't blame him, he has to come up with something. Think he'll fling a bunch more things at the wall and see what sticks
― anvil, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:34 (four years ago) link
But Brexit has taken over to such an extent, do the members have eyes for anything else?
I think they do? Brexit the topic on which both candidates can barely explain what they want, let alone position themselves differently to the other. So we get dice rolls: tax cuts, sugar taxes, fox hunting, guillotines etc
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:40 (four years ago) link