I tried Googling "longest overtime in World Cup Soccer" and couldn't find anything.
― John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Monday, 24 June 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
It's not overtime
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
Probably because it's not called overtime.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 24 June 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
(xp!)
Iirc per caek, referees completely make up the amount of added time
They probably won't do a 13 minute added time marathon in the immediate future because it would be embarrassing to VAR imo. It would damage confidence, in the sport, to see it,
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 24 June 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
Sadly at work and can't watch this now. Don't think the decisions i've seen have been wrong, mostly, but VAR seems to encourage a pedantic emphasis on some types of infraction at the expense of context and any idea of intentionality. And it fucks with the flow of the game and encourages more dissent/nitpicking from the players. And the handball interpretation is just fucking silly now.
It's kinda messed up that this narrative has been allowed to dominate discussion of the actual football and i feel bad for falling into that too but it's aggravating and it does feel like it's operated in favour of the big teams more, no doubt cos they get fouled more iften but also because they're just better at gaming the rules as they stand.
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
Pretty 'hm' about all this in the end.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 June 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
Tom D., I don't really follow soccer. What is it called?
― John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
it's called bonus o'clock
― imago, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
the stolen seconds
― imago, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
Tempus fugit iirc.
― pomenitul, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
The second half was a gritty slog.
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
Extra time.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
:D
― imago, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
VAR has moved us abruptly from a constructivist to a positivist interpretation of the rules. This is mainly because football administrators are generally a bit dim not very nuanced thinkers
― Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
the additional time given at the end of a half of football (soccer) is called "injury time" or "added time". if the game ends in a draw (tie) and they play an extra 30 minutes of football (soccer) this is called "extra time" (this would be what is referred to as "overtime" in north american sporting parlance).
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
Imo remove VAR and just have someone shoot tranquilizers at people inching offsides
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
Oh, it's a British vs American English thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtime_(sports)
― John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
"context and any idea of intentionality" seems relevant wrt viewer/poster reactions as this tournament (as w/ world cups in general [also this is a net positive I should probably state]) has definitely hooked ppl who don't necessarily watch that much football
reading liveblogs etc which platform shouty dissenting voices for even the clearly correct decisions has a signal-to-noise effect as well I guess
― Screwfix's favourite disco albums (DJ Mencap), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
Although what Jim in Vancouver says makes sense. I don't watch enough soccer games. Thanks dudes!
― John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
It's not really overtime though. Stoppage time is meant to make up for time lost due to injuries, substitutions, goal celebrating, but is still considered part of the half it occurs in.
The correct analogue for overtime are those two extra 15 minute periods when the game is tied after regulation in a tournament match
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
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― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
Xxxpost
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
― Screwfix's favourite disco albums (DJ Mencap), Monday, June 24, 2019 11:05 AM (twenty-seven seconds ago) Bookmark
i think the issue with VAR is that in football lots of stuff that technically is not allowed happens and we expect it to be allowed to happen. we applaud a referee who lets a game flow, we hate one who inserts themselves into the game too much. with VAR this expected refereeing of flow, subjectivity and feeling is crushed like a butterfly on a wheel
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
If it makes anybody feel better, we get terrible officiating decisions at twice the rate in MLS with VAR in tow.
Say "Ted Unkel" at a game or "Chris Penso" and get a free beer poured on your head
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
Not to beat a dead horse, but I Wiki'd it just for my own knowledge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football#Duration_and_tie-breaking_methods
FIFA document (2016): https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/datdz0pms85gbnqy4j3k.pdf
Answer: additional time
― John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
In Argentina stoppage time is known as "el tiempo de cangrejos inoportunos", the phrase popularised in the mid-2000s by Spanish-speaking Manchester United fans enamoured of the late-game ball retention skills of one Michael Carrick
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:06 (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
all around the world
― imago, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
lol
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
Had no idea Phil Collins was coaching the Canadian squad
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
I can't tell one Swedish player from another tbh... oh, hold on, there's a brunette there.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
Canadian players have awful touch.
0 shots on goal
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, June 24, 2019 12:13 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark
the gaffer of the canadian team looks like monty burns' son
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
This game's dull enough to be a Men's World Cup game.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link
Both squads combined for three shots, zero on frame. Riveting
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
Blackstenius - great real name.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
pass cant be any more perfectly placed than that
― big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
Wonderful assist
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
Honestly amazing.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 June 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
Canada deserved that with how careless they are with the ball
Whole sequence was nice
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
Sweden carving through right now
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link
there's a real gulf in class between this game and the one earlier.
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
O here we go, VAR.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link
Sigh
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
"A surefire penalty kick"
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
Inevitable given the nature of the decisions to date and probably right within the new rules but it absolutely looked like she was trying to draw her arm into her body.
― ShariVari, Monday, 24 June 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
Obvious pen tbf
― abcfsk, Monday, 24 June 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
Justice
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link