Backlash after Lil Nas X's "Old Town Road" removed from Billboard Hot Country chart

yeah, when it's 2027, sure. But to speculate now on whether it will still get played/remembered like "Gypsy Woman" or "C'mon Ride the Train" is fruitless to me idk.

Also: some songs become such phenomena that liking or disliking them is irrelevant (e.g. "Macarena").

But I do understand the "intense alienation" of horrible songs becoming inescapable; we all do.

I like "Rodeo" as a sequel to "Old Town Road," but I wish Cardi would cut the swears for what is essentially children's music

Old Town Road went over huge at the bat mitzvah i went to this weekend, the kids were into it more than any other song. one woman at our table was asking loudly "why is he saying, going to take my horse to the old hotel, what's this song about?"

ITS ABOUT EQUINE PROSTITUTION GRAMMA ITS AN OLD COUTRY SONG YOU REMEMBER IT?

I mean as far as intention he is on record as saying he's trolling so ????

a lot of ppl on this supposedly forward-thinking rockist-critical forum would probably legit be turning their noses up at "c'mon and ride it" today, including those who actually liked it as kids. like do some of you ever get tired of being surly every time something goes big that betrays the general public's ignorance about the types of music that you enjoy, + pointing at other major-label artists who 'should' actually be receiving the attention and such

so much country music is self-parodic to the extent that it is seldom even remarked upon. nearly all the tropes of the idiom going back decades are mostly-fictional constructions stemming from the western-film conception of the cowboy

omg, this exists!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8gUKEGuS20

it's the pomplamoose old town road/pony mash up america deserves!

PomplamooseMusic
Last night I had a dream that we were playing the Fillmore and half the room was singing “If you’re horny” and the other half was singing “I’m gonna take my horse,” and it was the greatest thing I’ve ever witnessed. Can we make this dream a reality? CAN WE????

oh my god i thought you were joking but it's actually fucking pomplamoose. amazing that all these years later they still haven't fucked off even after making their patreon(?) money

Supposedly the only Patreon money Pomplamoose guy gets and keeps is from his own account and the band's.

a lot of ppl on this supposedly forward-thinking rockist-critical forum would probably legit be turning their noses up at "c'mon and ride it" today, including those who actually liked it as kids. like do some of you ever get tired of being surly every time something goes big that betrays the general public's ignorance about the types of music that you enjoy, + pointing at other major-label artists who 'should' actually be receiving the attention and such

― dyl, Monday, 24 June 2019 20:43 (one hour ago) Permalink

you act like it was all "cmon ride the train" and not also rednex "cotton eyed joe"

also tbf my first exposure to this song was on tiktok & as ive said before if the song had first broken through those memes instead of billboard being dumb the popular response to this song would have been different imo

yes this song is popular because kids are bristling at the racism of billboard

my students hurled their phones across the room when they heard about Billboard's perfidy

hahahahahahahaha

the song *did* initially break thru those memes! it was #51, up from 86, on the hot 100 (and flying up the streaming charts -- it had virtually no airplay at this point) the week that billboard dropped it from the country chart. the billboard goof story, which went big after elias leight's rolling stone coverage not long after, did become a galvanizing point and part of its mythos, but the song was already broken wide open.

Had my kid play me this today. Not bad! She said it was a pretty fun song, but also good. Me, it reminded me of Everlast's "What It's Like," but that's fine, there are worse things.

that's a low blow

LOL, I figured I was not the first to make that comparison, but googling got next to nothing! Except this cat, who is actually pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wFt0uALc24

believe it or not, it is possible to like "old town road" while acknowledging that it is basically a meme

gonna come out of the closet as someone who actually enjoyed "what it's like". and "cotton-eye joe". i'm a lemming.

Pete Buttigieg is a noted fan of "What It's Like." I wonder what he thinks of "Old Town Road."

Oh boy:

Guys, Tim Ryan’s walk-up music is Old Town Road pic.twitter.com/xfNGnOmTLg

— Andy Burnstein (@thatburnstein) June 11, 2019

what little i know of pete buttigieg's music tastes seems so respectable-milquetoast-centrist so i take it back, i hate "what it's like"

yes this song is popular because kids are bristling at the racism of billboard

― VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Monday, June 24, 2019 5:09 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my students hurled their phones across the room when they heard about Billboard's perfidy

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 24, 2019 5:26 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahahahahahahaha

― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, June 24, 2019 5:28 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the song *did* initially break thru those memes! it was #51, up from 86, on the hot 100 (and flying up the streaming charts -- it had virtually no airplay at this point) the week that billboard dropped it from the country chart. the billboard goof story, which went big after elias leight's rolling stone coverage not long after, did become a galvanizing point and part of its mythos, but the song was already broken wide open.

― dyl, Monday, June 24, 2019 5:31 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

These posts are dumb as fuck. It was in the hot 100 like literally 99 other songs at any given time but it was not a straight shot number one cross format smash that keeps legitimate stars off the number one for weeks at a time until it received blanket media coverage in the wake of a widespread report of curatorial injustice.

Like it wasn’t even top 40 off tiktok? There are probably 60 songs on the hot 100 right now a plurality if ilxors haven’t even heard

billy ray cyrus was more important than billboard

Billy Ray Cyrus doesn’t happen without billboard !!

Literally every media platform covered that story. It was like on local tv stations and shit

Billy Ray Cyrus doesn’t happen without billboard !!

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, June 25, 2019 2:38 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark

sure but what you describe -- a song so big that it keeps artists like drake and taylor swift from no 1 -- is solely bcuz of the decision to put billy ray cyrus on the remix

billboard doesn't even appear to be charting the original at this point

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When it’s not a legitimate star the Billboard has a way of shutting that whole thing down

Like it wasn’t even top 40 off tiktok? There are probably 60 songs on the hot 100 right now a plurality if ilxors haven’t even heard

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, June 25, 2019 2:17 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly how popular is this song among the kids? let's see if generation X and some older millennials have ever heard of it

my 4yo son has been singing it constantly. He went into school yesterday and sang it to his 30-ish teacher. She said she was singing that song at karaoke on Friday. This is total saturation, folks.

Conclusion: the song is crazy popular, you don't have to like it, and it may not get play in 2032, especially if the polar ice shelves melt and wreak havoc on coastal cities.

my eight year old just asked me "Have you heard of a song called 'Old Town Road' it's a very good song" they played it at their dance time during daycare

I feel like it will get play 20 years from now, like Baby Got Back or Push It

yeah I don't think it's going away

Reznor finally has a crossover for the pre-teens.

Would love it if the NIN "Ghosts" album becomes this sort of Violent Femmes-esque entry/talisman for this generation.

haven’t heard the ep yet but i want to say that i disagree with this from the p4k review. Old town road is obviously a good song. not so bad it’s good or so good it’s bad; just good. i don’t know what it means for the song to be ‘aware it’s a meme’; it only became a meme because it is very good. i wasn’t ‘in on the joke’ and i don’t really think there is or was a ‘joke’

― flopson, Sunday, June 23, 2019 9:51 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

??? its clearly a parody of country music from a guy who played a lot of red dead redemption i think its obvi that theres a joke element to it

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, June 24, 2019 12:02 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that paragraph to me is simply describing the intense alienation that comes from a song you dislike becoming absurdly popular; I felt an even stronger dislike of "Fuck You" by Cee Lo which was also one of those songs that felt pretty intensely "popular" in both the charts & critically (& on ILX) in a way that felt "critic proof" (ie it was a success and lots of ppl liked it & its effective therefor it is good)

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, June 24, 2019 12:03 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah my interpretation was that the author didn't like the song as music (wrong but fair) but instead of just coming out and saying that tried to over-intellectualize others' enjoyment to pretend that he understood its appeal

you refer to deej, right

I was meh on Old Town Road at first, now I love it, haven’t heard the EP but A. Pierre’s trashing of it was one of the most entertaining reviews I’ve read in a while. The only weak/lazy writing in the whole piece is the passage cited above.

Old Town Road >>>>>>> Fuck You

Old Town Road="fuck you"

exactly how popular is this song among the kids? let's see if generation X and some older millennials have ever heard of it

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:18 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my 4yo son has been singing it constantly. He went into school yesterday and sang it to his 30-ish teacher. She said she was singing that song at karaoke on Friday. This is total saturation, folks.

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:43 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Conclusion: the song is crazy popular, you don't have to like it, and it may not get play in 2032, especially if the polar ice shelves melt and wreak havoc on coastal cities.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:47 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you guys incapable of reading? we're talking about how popular it was BEFORE the billboard snafu

it was a random tiktok song like tons of others that chart & no one here talks about

The Billboard thing happens, which isn't what catapults it

the RESPONSE to the Billboard thing is what catapults it. It becomes a major news story so awareness of it completely saturates

"Bottoms Up (We Was A the Club)" was in like the same area as this at the time & now it's completely forgotten