ILX AMBIENT ALBUMS POLL: the voting thread. Voting ends on Sunday, June 23rd.

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I'm with "Zeit: ambient", "Phaedra: not" camp, and voted accordingly. To me Phaedra has a bit too much sense of direction to count as ambient, whereas Zeit feels like floating in space. But I do understand the case for Phaedra being ambient too, and probably some other albums I voted have even more direction than that, it's not clear-cut.

Tuomas, Sunday, 23 June 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

Zeit is definitely ambient to me. Phaedra is too propulsive. And Stars of the Lid has to be ambient, dunnit? Not sure where else I'd place it. Emobient, maybe.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

The only albums I sort of regret nominating and voting for are the two Growing albums. In both cases the first tracks are epic drones, and that’s what I think of when I think of them. But subsequent tracks really aren’t remotely ambient. Oh well. If I’m the only one who voted for them in the end you can strike them.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

^^ I've had that, where in memory or in 'feeling' records are ambient to me, but when listening w/ this poll in mind I think: wait, no, actually...

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that happened to me too, I had to scrap a couple of albums from my ballot cos I remembered them as being ambient based on how they begin, but upon listening to them I realised they got way too progressive later on.

Tuomas, Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

that was my reaction to listening to 76:14 again, i was surprised how beat-heavy a lot of it was

Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

Ah thanks, Tuomas; I did manage to mess up your email. Ballot re-sent! Got your confirmation.

What is this other genre that some of you think these other artists ought to fall into, if not ambient? Too spaced out and atmospheric to be electronic, too melodic to be avant-grade. If I were to vote these albums into any poll, it would be this one.

At the risk of sounding naïve, does "electronic" necessarily mean beat-based music? I guess I think of electronic as encompassing what used to be called IDM as well as a lot of ambient and whatever is called new age and even synth pop; i.e., it's really broad. New age vs. ambient was one of the divisions I was thinking about, where it seemed like Vangelis' L'Apocalypse des Animaux is more definitely new age than ambient, but where some new age is ambient enough. Another category is noise, where Fennesz's work occupies both noise and ambient territory (I voted for one of his, and not the most ambient among them!).

A basic problem I have is that the albums I like best on the noms list don't necessarily seem purely ambient (i.e., I love Phaedra and voted for it but the arguments against it above make sense to me... but I don't love Zeit, so I didn't vote for it).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

Actually, Chinaski's solution to this problem was probably better than mine. Still, I'll be pleased if anyone else votes for Tierbeobachtungen.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

I’ve always thought of Biosphere’s Patashnik as ambient but there’s surprisingly little material without beats on it.

Siegbran, Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

Patashnik definitely is some kind of a ambient/techno hybrid, as was Microgravity before it. To me, Substrata is the first true ambient album by Biosphere. For a guy who's known as ambient musician first and foremost, Geir Jenssen certainly has done a lot of music based on beats and rhythms. He even released an EP a couple of years ago, The Petrified Forest, which is an obvious throwback to that Patashnik sound. It's a great record, but again, it doesn't sound sound ambient enough for me to have nominated it.

Tuomas, Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

Voted

groovypanda, Sunday, 23 June 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

Departed Glories is the one for Biosphere

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 23 June 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link

voted!

Siegbran, Sunday, 23 June 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

voted!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 23 June 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link

Departed Glories is the one for Biosphere

You don’t have to choose just one though! 50 votes, plenty of space.

I’m also surprised at how many people feel this way about DG. Doesn’t reach the heights (or depths) of Substrata or Cirque for me, but maybe I need to open my ears.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Sunday, 23 June 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

(also had many instances as noted upthread of "shit, I should have nominated ambient album x)

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 23 June 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

^^ same here.

Voted!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 June 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link

voted with a split ballot, it turns out I can in fact pick only 25 ambient albums that are truly close to my heart

the only new one I included was one of the Voice Of Eye noms, I love that double LP of early stuff that VOD put out but had never checked out the later stuff.

I'd like to attempt a Spotify playlist of all the noms, but can't guarantee anything

Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 24 June 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link

There is a Spotify playlist

Vape Store (crüt), Monday, 24 June 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

oh I missed that! thanks.

Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 24 June 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link

damn I coulda been shuffling all this time

Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 24 June 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link

for reference cuz I don't think it was linked in this thread:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4fPPFJHHNihMjlO9GVEs6F?si=hVKygUYXRJSuCafBZrfzlQ

Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 24 June 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

The voting is now closed, thanks to everyone! I'll start the results rollout later today or tomorrow.

Tuomas, Monday, 24 June 2019 05:13 (four years ago) link

top 3 albums I slightly regret including on my ballot:

Belong - October Language (soothing noize ≠ ambient!)
Slowdive - Pygmalion (too pop! parts of it have a backbeat and proper hummable melodies!)
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (too much chug-a-chug-a sequencer action!)

my ballot started out super purist, but then I got the notion of voting for 50 albums by 50 different artists, so I ended up padding it out with some stuff that wasn't a perfect fit, oops

anyways, here's some great cosmic horror ambient that idk if anyone else voted for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9RPDgCn2w

(Tholen - Sternklang)

tandoor vittles (unregistered), Monday, 24 June 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

Results rolling out here: The mind revealing itself to itself: the TOP 100 AMBIENT ALBUMS as voted by ILX

koogs, Monday, 24 June 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link


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