Fleabag

just watched Crashing. boy that was....actually kind of terrible for the most part!

Why is it all men in this thread who said Priest was creepy? I didnt read him that way at all.

I wasnt a fan of s1 - I found it hard to get past how hateful everyone was, esp the stepmother and Claires husband (ugh, his angry smug face and that beard make my skin crawl).

S2 turned it all upside down. As she says in the very first line "this is a love story". And it was. Not just about her and the Priest, but about her and her sister, her and her dad, her and the memory of her mum.

Why is it all men in this thread who said Priest was creepy?

ilxor altar boy crew assemble

ouch.

there was a lively debate regarding the creepiness, many disagreed with the thesis, it was mostly men because ilx is mostly men

Most of the disagreers were women. I just thought it was curious.

“Inadvisably / extremely fuckable” is Andrew Scott’s wheelhouse.

let the record show i’ve never said he was creepy

He was too lost and befuddled to be creepy.

Yeah, not creepy at all (maybe people project his other charachters on this one).

Hated Season 1 (only made it halfway) but have really enjoyed the first 2 episodes of Season 2.

Why is it all men in this thread who said Priest was creepy? I didnt read him that way at all.

Not all men.

Although, I didn't think he was creepy all the time. Just the time he got so turned on by her crying in the other side of the confession box that he lost control of himself. That was creepy.

hum. yeah ok, if you consider the ethics of his position, that was definitely out of line...

I read it as weakness rather than pre-meditated creep though.

Yeah same, on both their parts. Dont get me wrong, I'm with Mandee on this - what they were doing was Wrong (hes a priest, sex for him is basically Cheating on God). But it was hawt, and he had a real charm. I loved it every time he saw through her asides.

Which reminds me: is the idea she was talking to god? At one point at the end I thought maybe it was her mother, given she glanced down at the T&A statue, then back up/out to the audience with a sad smile.

you wait till you can hire the electric scooters. menace.

/Why is it all men in this thread who said Priest was creepy? I didnt read him that way at all./

Not all men.

Although, I didn't think he was creepy all the time. Just the time he got so turned on by her crying in the other side of the confession box that he lost control of himself. That was creepy.

that “moral trust hocked cheaply” bit may be where a specifically *male* envy comes in potentially making unfair judgments - to Trayce’s thought. to what extent that drives or taints the more general observations i made above, i’m not sure. not much is my immediate feeling.

Wow I love this show. I hoovered the first season on a flight and immediately subscribed to the appropriate service so I could watch it again with my boyfriend when I got home.

I cannot think of any “best actress” who I would compulsively watch anything in which she appears but Olivia Coleman is it.

Her speech about “the show is not about sex... it’s about power” was so chillingly perfect that I gasped and paused and massaged my temples for a couple minutes

Also Moriarty is extremely hot, he could wreck my fourth wall any time

I was taken aback at the moment in s2 when something actually happens between them because there's a formulaic way that unravels in drama/comedy and there's something I can't put my finger on about how this show broke that convention. As if the plot resolved how they didn't need to hook up, and then dropped it immediately after?

I am just now watching this and the opening to s1e2 is incredible

Just you wait for the s2 premiere.

v disappointed she signed with amazon.

the backlash begins here!

enh all the major streaming giants are varying degrees of evil. netflix is doing all they can to tamp down creatives' pay rates for example

every entertainment company since the dawn of man has done whatever it can to reduce the amount it pays talent, I'm not sure that's here or there?

if ISIS offered same-day delivery & streamed a snappy comedy abt millennials ppl wld shrug "eh, all countries are borne of violence"

Why wouldn’t she sign with the commercial company that picked up Fleabag first?

Sure, after all she doesn't have to worry about them slashing her health care benefits.

I don’t use Amazon fwiw.

But even the BBC is helping revitalise the Nazis, not sure what she could do to stay "pure" in today's tv environment.

also,

'You Know That Feeling When You Waste Time at Work Using an "AI" to Translate the Faces of Various Noh Masks on Phoebe Waller-Bridge?'
(an art project in honour of @robpalkwriter) pic.twitter.com/otZ7NAsmfN

— Caustic Cover Critic (@Unwise_Trousers) October 3, 2019

amazon isn't impure, it's a toxic and endlessly exploitative authoritarian monopoly which has destroyed tens of thousands of businesses, created and profited from unregulated markets, and reduced working standards, all in service of a much-exaggerated and often hugely inefficient convenience to the customer.

you can also watch the show on IFC in the United States, I guess

she's hosting snl this weekend btw.

every entertainment company since the dawn of man has done whatever it can to reduce the amount it pays talent, I'm not sure that's here or there?

yes, netflix is just breaking new ground in how to do it in their particular industry

her SNL hosting is at least as objectionable as working with amazon tbh

blah

amazon isn't impure, it's a toxic and endlessly exploitative authoritarian monopoly which has destroyed tens of thousands of businesses, created and profited from unregulated markets, and reduced working standards, all in service of a much-exaggerated and often hugely inefficient convenience to the customer.

― ogmor, Thursday, October 3, 2019 1:39 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm. streaming services are all varying degrees of evil but prime is 1) varying degrees of evil 2) attached to a more evil apparatus

season 2 of fleabag is a masterpiece so like, whatever

we're *all* attached to the apparatus via AWS if nothing else, it seems silly to attack artists for getting paid. fight the real enemy imo

fight the real enemy imo

SNL

yes.

fight the real enemy imo

― Simon H., Thursday, October 3, 2019 8:05 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

how

Speaking of a backlash..

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2019/aug/29/fleabag-stage-theatre-show-phoebe-waller-bridge

lol, that piece is very dumb.
i saw the televised performance; it was good but served as proof of how skilled she and her team are at translating her vision to a larger audience. The show is a definite quantum leap forward.

there's one subtextual bit of that piece about how we write characters that are horrible people, and whether past depictions differ from the more contemporary due to our tolerances of what we allow in our fiction. 2013 still seems relatively contemporary, but from a writer working in cultural commentary I can see where there's some blanket changing of the rules that is in no way evenly distributed among people who have never read a thinkpiece

re: the show, I'm still on s1 but the slow revelation of what happened and why everyone keeps asking if she's okay is fantastic

how

lots of competing theories on this but pretty sure "tut-tutting creatives for signing with the incorrect godless conglomerate" can be safely ruled out