neon genesis evangelion

Netflix has released KARE KANO and fans are screaming!!!

— no purity (@nopurityone) June 21, 2019

happy #watchkarekano day

— aurora (@request_healing) June 21, 2019

somehow, shamefully, i’ve never seen this and just watched the first four episodes

it fucking rules

YES IT DOES

and it only gets better from there

very excited for end of evangelion to ruin the lives of people who've never seen it before

hell yeah!!

It maybe could have generated some goodwill if they'd made some sort of documentary or companion to help guide new/perplexed viewers or help explain why it's seen as such A Big Deal

I will say the actual dub performances seem fine, a couple dodgy pronunciations aside. I'd forgotten about all the great moments of stillness (eg the end of ep 4)

i read a ranking of the series recently that put episode 4 toward the bottom and episode 26 dead last. gonna draw a line in the sand here and say that person doesn't deserve eva

Are the English subtitles not perfectly synched up for anyone else? I'm on episode 2 and the subs seem to be about 1-2 seconds delayed.

syncing is fine for me

I'm even looking forward to the discourse cycle a little

o rly

pic.twitter.com/uH5C97g6OR

— gray-um (@GrahamSig) June 21, 2019

i think i'll watch this again - brad i thought i posted a lot about this when i first watcvhed it but maybe i only discussed it w/ you. anyway what i was left with years later as the most impressive bit was how well it captured the kind of syntax of longing + emptiness/void + the sacred mystery (the desire to see beyond the veil) that characterizes my lived experience almost all the time.

that is a great description of it mordy

bringing this back in honor of evangelion netflix pic.twitter.com/0K6RIB6U0b

— 🐰Jennifer Raye💚 (@jenn_raye) June 21, 2019

Rebuild 4 has been delayed specifically so Anno can screencap all our tweets

— bjork’s oh so quiet (@ifgirlscollide) June 21, 2019

up to ep 7, anxious to see more tbh

also anxious to see how all the qabalah imagery pays off

pretty soon you'll just be anxious

hallelujah

this piece is AWESOME but also lousy with spoilers, reader beware https://www.polygon.com/2019/6/19/18683634/neon-genesis-evangelion-hideaki-anno-depression-shinji-anime-characters-movies

(not to keep derailing but the anno-leaving-kare kano thing seems false, e.g. the cut-out section stewart-ahn mentions starts ep19 which is after all the rumored leaving-points)

yeah i had never heard of that before, and i always thought that kare kano, for how much it completely falls apart in the last six or so episodes, is way more anno-esque at the end than at the beginning

(i've read the entire manga and the first half of the show is a very loyal translation)

(if it's true that masami tsuda complained about the show being too different in tone from the manga... she was wrong lol)

(but then again maybe anno had different plans that we never got to see, bc part of the issue with the ending of kare kano is that they had obviously caught up with the still-in-progress manga)

isn't the manga considered secondary/alternate? I don't think Anno was looking to translate it to the screen.

But this is my first Eva talk in around 20 years

all of those posts are about kare kano

the eva manga is indeed secondary to the anime, and it also diverts dramatically from it. not sure it’s a necessary read

oh i hadn't heard of "Kare Kano" ^^

all versions of Eva divert dramatically in the second half, 4.0 is gonna be a hoot
the manga is a fun read imo

i agree that it's fun

there's also a rich tradition of great manga being turned into great anime that had a totally different tone/emphasis than the manga, annoying the original creator. or even urusei yatsura, a great anime series based on a great manga, that then took a huge tonal/thematic digression in the second film (directed by mamoru oshii) that is itself a masterpiece, and which is in some sense a deconstruction of the very bones of an anime sitcom.

how had I never seen/heard this and why is it incomplete?!

https://youtu.be/YrKMiE9WII0

I've been totally ambivalent about anime series that I've seen (FMA, Bebop), but this is weirdly engrossing. About 5 episodes in and the narrative of trauma combined with high school melodrama with the abrupt slapstick breaks is riveting and imparts a surprising amount of momentum.

The leering fanservice is creepy and cringey, obviously.

Like the scene where Misato thinks that Shinji got on the train but is actually just behind her head in the mise en scene is some radically subjective Gonzo filmmaking.

when i saw this as a kid it took me forever to even work out what “fanservice” meant (the two shots framed from misato’s butt in the first episode did not clue me in)

in the new dub they keep pronouncing “nerv” the german way. cute choice

also much better than the old dub

did y’all know episode 4 was not part of the original sequence? iirc it was produced later in the run. and yet i can’t imagine the show without it. that scene with misato and shinji at the train station is the heart of the show

https://i.imgur.com/zCl1HWg.jpg

<3

This Is Just To Say

I haven’t watched
the anime
You won’t
Shut up about

Forgive me
There’s so little time
And I just
Don’t care

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) June 21, 2019

morbs no one wants you to watch this

iirc Labuza didn't finish The Return either

The landscape stills in ep 4 are really beautiful.

Also love that panning urinal shot

interesting take on the new translation

Babysitter Super Sleuth @ SomethingAwful posted this regarding the Netflix Evangelion dub and khara's involvement with the localization in general. pic.twitter.com/kRIAblHHQi

— Tactical Shitposting Action (@fooly_cooly) June 23, 2019

"cutting out all the memorable adlibs from the first dub"

excuse me

Just finished my series + EoE rewatch. OK ready for 3.0+1.0

interesting twitter thread but do i wanna trust someone named "babysitter super sleuth"

i don't actually mind translations like "the first children" to refer to Shinji alone if it does capture some of the ambiguity of the original language since i could easily imagine that sort of choice being intentional or representing the vision of the original language

the thing is that 1. that's technically what they're saying 2. there are english titles for every episode and one of the episodes is called (iirc) "fourth children"

but also the insistence that the english translation refer to them as second child/third child etc. actually came from gainax at the time (iirc, this is sourced from my extremely distant memory of the commentary tracks on adv's release of the platinum edition)