Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Thought it was called “Melancholy.”

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 June 2019 11:14 (four years ago) link

I like to "DJ" using the queue, and it would be easier for me if there were an option for moving a track to the top of the queue, like many music players have. Sometimes I have a queue that is fifty tracks long, and it's a pain to drag the track all the way to the top. Or is there an easier way of doing this that I'm not aware of?

War in I Rock (I M Losted), Friday, 21 June 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link

I've tried moving podcasts up the queue on my phone and its not worked. Is there an easy way to do that. Can't left click or right click as far as I can see so don't have much nuance in highlighting.
Can you move them up and down queue on a mobile anyway.
JUst tends to jump onto the podcast I'm trying to shift and ditch the others taht are between the previously playing one and the one I'm trying to line up next where I'd like them to just play after teh one I'm trying to move.

Stevolende, Friday, 21 June 2019 11:59 (four years ago) link

It's very annoying that after 15 years of smartphone (and desktop) apps there's a pretty good template by now how to implement features and UI design in a music player (queue and playlist management, navigation by artist/album/genre, shuffle, etc) but every new developer tends to ignore all of that, goes for the awesome impractical crazy unique radical design thing, only to slowly revert to what everybody else does because it works.

Siegbran, Friday, 21 June 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

I don't think the music-playing universe now is the same as the one 15 years ago, so I don't resent experimentation. (Also: I don't work on the UI at Spotify.)

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 22 June 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link

The “appears on” list is now so short that I can’t even get a full list of appearances on 2019 Riddims for most dancehall artists. It’s totally ridiculous. Please help, Glenn!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 24 June 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link

Sorry, longneck, not totally sure what you're looking at. More details?

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 24 June 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

Dancehall artists typically appear on at least a dozen riddims in the course of a year. These songs are not necessarily singles, and they won’t show up under “albums”, as the album belongs to the producer. But as you might not know who produced a ridding, you’re likely to go to “appears on” in the iPhone app to find the riddims an artist has appeared on. But if I go to, say, Vybz Kartel to look for the riddims he has appeared on, I’m only shown 25 titles and most of these are recent compilations. The 25th and oldest “appears on” entry was added as recently as 15 May, meaning that anything Vybz Kartel appeared on previously to 15 May is simply not there. This makes keeping track of an artists work pretty difficult.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 24 June 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

I assume you're looking on a phone, where it's true that we only show the first 25. If you look on the desktop version you can see the whole (very long) Vybz Kartel list...

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 24 June 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

So they got rid of starred tracks … then added Liked Tracks … which instead of including my years of starred tracks, includes every track from every album I have saved?

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Monday, 24 June 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

yeah real confused by this

big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 24 June 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

xxpost Yeah, I mainly listen on my phone...

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

Although in good news, they've finally made it so you can save an album without saving every track in the album! Hurrah!

closed beta (NotEnough), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

this garbage program now has so much bloatware and pointless code tacked onto it that it no longer runs on my Macbook Pro, it takes somewhere between "5 minutes" and "never" to do anything like search an artist, switch playlists, or click on an album. gonna be cancelling my paid sub after maybe 3 years because no, I am not buying a new fucking computer when I can stream Netflix as well or better than I could 3 years ago.

IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT

Spotify Version 1.1.10.540.gfcf0430f

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)
2.5 GHz Intel Core i5
4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

Skip Spence None the Richer (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link

(I needed to hear a few Mekons songs I didn't know, I went to Youtube instead)

Skip Spence None the Richer (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link

"You have forced Spotify to quit. Send a report to Apple"

Skip Spence None the Richer (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:25 (four years ago) link

i was able to roll back to an old version after they removed the search bar (lol thx dudes), iirc i just googled for it and found a page with a bunch of diff revisions & was back in business. you might need to change some permissions so it doesn't auto-update but it'll work fine.

lumen (esby), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:37 (four years ago) link

it is definitely bloating to unpleasant proportions

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link

I'm running the same version on a late 2013 2.4GHz Intel Core i5 and I have to say it's … completely fine, when God knows many things on this MacBook are really not any more. I do have 8GB of RAM so I guess that could be the difference but really, Chrome quite regularly seizes up on this machine (and the other day, Notes!) so I wonder if not about bloat and more something specific that gets fucked up with the installation or preferences on some machines.

Alba, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 04:28 (four years ago) link

I use the browser version, no bloat (and no ads!)

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link

On my 2013 iMac at work the application is useless, freezes all the time, doesn't do searches or anything really, same as Sleeve. Can only use the webplayer.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 07:04 (four years ago) link

The browser version has lower sound quality, though, no?

The app experience on my Windows PC is pretty dreadful, it drags and noticeably slows down after running for more than 15 minutes, and sometimes even freezes the whole fucking computer. The Android version was fine until fairly recently but lately it's been crashing a lot and I get the 'offline mode' error when I'm not. I'm thinking of cancelling my subscription as well, there's no point in paying for something that makes me want to pull my hair out in frustration.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link

Not sure about the lower quality, I wouldn't notice that cause of the in-built imac speakers not being great obv. But yeah, it's frustrating as hell that the app is woeful.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link

Premium user here, using the Android app. I used to be able to download a whole album and then remove certain tracks from it. So if I downloaded a whole reissued album including bonus tracks, for example, I could remove those bonus tracks from the download which I didn't want, in order to save space. But now it seems to have changed so that it's all or nothing. Every track has the little green downward arrow next to it, indicating that it's been downloaded, but if I tap the three dots menu next to an individual track there is no option to remove that track, as there used to be. I can remove the whole album download and that's it. Am I missing something?

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

Can you make a playlist of just the tracks you want and download THAT instead? Works for me.

I'm always a little disappointed when I open this thread and people are complaining about functionality rather than their effect on music /the music industry.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 25 July 2019 03:41 (four years ago) link

After reading all of these complaints about the various Spotify interfaces, I'm forced to wonder: Anybody else using Daphile's "Spotty" plug-in? It's not perfect, but it's all business compared to the app and browser versions.

Daphile is a bit of a pain to massage into compliance, but once it works . . .

Got the Human League in to Advise Me (FlappyPants), Friday, 26 July 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

And, Jordan, I buy expensive vinyl and cheap CD box sets. So fuck off.

Got the Human League in to Advise Me (FlappyPants), Friday, 26 July 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

Hey I use it too, I'm as guilty as anybody.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 26 July 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

I use Spotty on Logitech Media Server... in addition to desktop and Android Spotify, which I've been lucky enough with. This is the first I'm hearing of "daphile".. what's the advantage over LMS?

There are plenty of discussions on ilx about the state of the business/streaming. Do we need one specific to Spotify in that regard?

maffew12, Friday, 26 July 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

Nevermind.. just looked up Daphile, another repackaging of LMS. Cool. I've used piCorePlayer similarly. Right now since I've got a Windows server always on, it's just LMS on that.

Definitely recommend some flavour of LMS to anyone who listens to much of anything at home, in more than one room and/or one computer.

If anyone previously checked out the Spotify integration, it's slicker these days with Spotify Connect integration and all that.

maffew12, Friday, 26 July 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

I guess people use Tidal/Apple Music, but Spotify feels close to becoming a genericized trademark for streaming. Happy to move my complaints to another thread and leave this for Spotify minutiae though.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 26 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

I will fight proprietary eponyms until I fall over

maffew12, Friday, 26 July 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

I'd just like to randomly drop a complaint about how Spotify won't allow you to follow labels, and in some clients (iOS for sure) won't even search by label. I've always discovered new music by exploring catalogs of smaller curated labels. Maybe Spotify has some interest in diminishing the importance of the label? I'd much rather quickly build a playlist based on a label than what an algorithm things fits a mood. </old man rant>

beard papa, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

Some labels have accounts that are worth following. Numero Group, notably.

bendy, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

I'm always a little disappointed when I open this thread and people are complaining about functionality rather than their effect on music /the music industry.

― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:41 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 26 July 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

i was able to roll back to an old version after they removed the search bar (lol thx dudes)

Search bar is back! back!! back!!! Bad idea was bad.

My Windows and Android clients both run very smoothly atm. But I do pretty much loathe the "always be tinkering" ethos they and seemingly everyone else have bought into the last decade or so.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 26 July 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

Maybe this is why you outsource GUI design? So you don't have to find things for the designers on staff to do all the time.

DJI, Friday, 26 July 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

Man, the new Frankie Rose single, "Back", that showed up in Release Radar is a big surprise. Wasn't expecting her to go in that direction.

beard papa, Friday, 26 July 2019 23:04 (four years ago) link

I saw that too, was sure it was a new song by Beck called Frankie Rose

calstars, Friday, 26 July 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

ugh, very annoying, was excited for a second there

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 26 July 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

Lol I got that too. I was hoping she’d go trap!

DJI, Saturday, 27 July 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link

Label data, unfortunately, is extremely messy. It's just label names entered as text by the licensors, at the moment. So although we (Spotify) would like to be able to have label pages like we have artist pages, we're a long way from being able to do that coherently...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link

I'd just like to randomly drop a complaint about how Spotify won't allow you to follow labels, and in some clients (iOS for sure) won't even search by label.

I agree that label related features are generally bad, and would very much like label specific pages etc., but as far as I can tell, searches still work. for example, label:"posh isolation" year:2019 gets me what I would expect across all clients that I've tried.

fffv, Saturday, 27 July 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link

I agree that label related features are generally bad, and would very much like label specific pages etc., but as far as I can tell, searches still work. for example, /label:"posh isolation" year:2019/ gets me what I would expect across all clients that I've tried.


You’re right. I just got it working on iOS. Operator error on me, then.

beard papa, Saturday, 27 July 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

Am noticing a fair bit of playlist degradation, with tracks no longer available to play, even though the albums are. Do albums get removed and re-added, and if so is any effort made to re-synch with tracks that were previously added to playlists?

The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:09 (four years ago) link

In fact it looks like 90% of the songs on playlists I transferred from itunes a few years ago, using an automated service on the web, are no longer available :(

The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link

Noticed this as well, older lists built with a lot of Local Files of music that is clearly available in the spotify library are mostly not recognized anymore.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link


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