Hard to say whether that's a genuinely controversial opinion, Moka. I'm on board with it, though.
― pomenitul, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:45 (four years ago) link
Indeed. It is probably more controversial to think that "The Crush of Love" is a classic single, which I do.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 21 June 2019 11:26 (four years ago) link
Wouldn't call it classic, but it's one of his better pieces, yeah.
― pomenitul, Friday, 21 June 2019 11:40 (four years ago) link
Madonna is a better songwriter than Paul McCartney.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 June 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link
Not a Beatles fanatic by any means but nah.
― pomenitul, Friday, 21 June 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link
I feel like there has been a drift over the last couple of decades where consensus has gone from "every note Bon Jovi ever recorded is completely worthless" to "some Bon Jovi tracks / LPs are actually good" and I cant help feeling that this is a symptom of a greater moral decline.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 June 2019 12:42 (four years ago) link
Joe Satriani and many of his ilk of late 80s guitar mag shredders are underrated
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 June 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link
So is Limp Bizkit.
― pomenitul, Friday, 21 June 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link
bon jovi has some jams. cross road is a decent greatest hits album
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 June 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
it isn't that their music is unbearable, it's just that if their whole discography were to be deleted, nothing of value would have been lost. i don't get why people would use their limited time on earth listening to them when there is other music available.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 June 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
you mean The Beatles yeah?
― nashwan, Friday, 21 June 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link
THANK YOU
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 June 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
They should make an alternate reality movie about what the world would be like if there never was a Bon Jovi.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 June 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
Sounds fine, would be a bit annoying explaining why they were bad, but I'd get over it.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 June 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
what the world would be like if there never was a Bon Jovi.
https://frinkiac.com/img/S04E21/888169.jpg
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 June 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
We'd have a thread called "Every huge artist has their "For Those About to Rock-- We Salute You" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline"
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
it isn't that their music is unbearable, it's just that if their whole discography were to be deleted, nothing of value would have been lost. i don't get why people would use their limited time on earth listening to them when there is other music available.― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, June 21, 2019 9:59 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkyou mean The Beatles yeah?― nashwan, Friday, June 21, 2019 10:03 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkTHANK YOU― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Friday, June 21, 2019 10:15 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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this whole exchange gives me life. I don't hate the Beatles nor do I hate Bon Jovi, but I'd rather hear Bon Jovi than the Beatles about 99% of the time. of course, i'd rather not hear either of them because they're both kind of trash, but at least Bon Jovi is real trash.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
the Rolling Thunder Revue is great if you like overplaying and coked-up shouting
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
hmm well i *do* like rock and roll music...
― omar little, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
This opinion isn't controversial.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 July 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
That is precisely why I haven't watched it, as a matter of fact.
― timellison, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
Based on their first album, Magma are an okay-ish band.
― pomenitul, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link
the best replacements song is TMBG's "hi we're the replacements"
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
More or less, it seems to me over recent years that:
- ilx needs to be convinced they shouldn't automatically hate an indie act they heard about- ilx needs to be convinced they shouldn't automatically like a pop act they heard about
Just an impression I have; I don't have enough citations to back that up in a debate at the moment
― Evan, Monday, 9 December 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
What about indie pop?
― pomenitul, Monday, 9 December 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
Under my anecdotal premise I guess I feel like that leans towards "automatically like" generally as well? IDK
― Evan, Monday, 9 December 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
Speaking purely personally, I have heard enough indie guitar music to last me a lifetime, and any new music of this sort has to be either very good or very novel to not seem like a total waste of time.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link
always happy to oblige!
― imago, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
I was convinced I'd get more pushback for making generalizations like this. Was inspired by the Car Seat Headrest discussions. Everyone on ilx seems to want to give that guy a swirly.
― Evan, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link
the phrase "indie landfill" came about for a reason. the bar there is so, so low compared to pop music, which is as brutal and cutthroat a competition as one gets.
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
"moondance" would be a much, much better record if only van morrison had had the good sense to excise the title track
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link
which is trash
I think it's a good album with or without "Moondance". Not quite as good as "Tupelo Honey" though (the album, not the song).
― o. nate, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link
I enjoy the song, but it is a bit corny and out of place on there.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link
Queen is overrated.
I like ketchup but a tablespoon of it is enough. Queen is, like, an entire cup of ketchup.
― Blursday the Vagueteenth of Whenember (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 July 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
The Police were mainly brilliant
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Monday, 13 July 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link
Cirith Ungol's vocalist sounds like he's been trying to shit for 20 years
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 July 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
Are any of these controversial?
― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 13 July 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
most say he sounds like he's been trying to shit for only 15
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 July 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link
cosign on above three controps
anyway...
modern doom metal is 95% gear and 5% ideas / talent / songs
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 13 July 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
Because I don't want to derail the Jane's Addiction thread…
('Three Days'/'Then She Did' are awesome when PF holds his peace btw.)
Come to think of it, the (long) 1980s are probably the decade in rock I struggle with the most, to this day, and I wonder whether this is typical of post-gen X-ers/pre-zoomers such as myself. There are countless classics from that era that I do enjoy more often than not but that I've never wholeheartedly embraced, such as…
The FallGuns n' RosesHüsker DüJudas PriestMetallicaMinutemenMotörheadMy Bloody ValentineNick Cave & The Bad SeedsPrinceRushThe SmithsTalking HeadsXTCetc.
I don't dislike any of these acts per se and there's enough amazing music between them that I could never relinquish, but I still would never think of including them in my personal canon. Whereas the period going from, say, 1967 to 1977 is evergreen in my mind.
I guess I never completely overcame the 'the 80s were the worst decade for music ever' mentality that was somehow drilled into me at a young age.
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 August 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
no decade responsible for “no ufos” could possibly be the worst decade ever
― brimstead, Monday, 3 August 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
'the 80s were the worst decade for music ever' mentality that was somehow drilled into me at a young age.
― pomenitul, Monday, August 3, 2020 2:09 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
idk why but this felt like a prevailing sentiment among regular (non-music-obsessed) people when i was growing up (in the late 90s, 00s), and it took me a while to overcome that inherited bias, too. i basically feel the opposite way now, fwiw.
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
I have no idea where it came from, exactly. Did people in the 80s think 70s music was utter garbage?
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 August 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link
post-gen X-ers/pre-zoomersThere’s a term for this, you know (lol)
― Rob, give a listen to Iggy Stooge (morrisp), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link
I know and I manifestly hate it lol.
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 August 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link
I think the whole stupid "Disco Sucks!" thing which went very mainstream helped to seal off the 60s and 70s as this "when music was good" period in a lot of lazy ppl's minds
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link
The 70s as a whole was viewed as utter garbage in the UK, and still is to a very great extent, it's all the Wurzels/ Leeds United/ inflation/ Confessions of a Window Cleaner/ Love Thy Neighbour/ strikes/ the Troubles etc. Irredemably grim and uncool. Pretty unfair of course - apart from Leeds United.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link
Whereas the period going from, say, 1967 to 1977 is evergreen in my mind.
So, not a fan of post punk then?
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
I like post-punk a lot, but nowhere near as much as the true believers. Still, it’s one of the clear highlights of that era for me.
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 August 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link