The Shining

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One thing about the Shining is it seems like its one of those movies that is all about creepy mystery and if you tried to explain it the thing would fall apart - creepy mystery is only good when its in a quantum state

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:35 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

tonga, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:31 (two years ago) link

Damn. For a second, I thought Jim Carrey's acting skills had jumped a mile.

pplains, Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:17 (two years ago) link

The only way to make that more terrifying is to deepfake Carrey's face on to Shelley Duvall too.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:33 (two years ago) link

Please explain what a deepfake is. I love that clip, but I'm confused as to what's been done.

clemenza, Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:38 (two years ago) link

Using AI to CGI humans, is how I understand it - instead of painstaking work to change faces frame to frame they use machine learning to do it faster and better.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:42 (two years ago) link

That's the original movie with Jim Carrey's face wrapped around Jack Nicholson's head.

pplains, Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:46 (two years ago) link

the crossed eyes at the end are pretty creepy

calstars, Thursday, 11 July 2019 02:05 (two years ago) link

Thanks--read a little bit online. That clip is...quite amazing.

clemenza, Thursday, 11 July 2019 02:46 (two years ago) link

fun stuff on that guy's channel

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 July 2019 02:49 (two years ago) link

The Stallone Terminator 2 clip has some transitions where it's clearly still Arnie's face, I couldn't tell if it was done on purpose or a function of the angles/lighting in the bar scene.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 11 July 2019 02:58 (two years ago) link

You can now just about watch the last act with Ace Ventura as Jack Torrance:

Stuff might DIOT but these deepfakes are wild. It's one thing to add the dead guy back into Fast and Furious or the dead guy back into the new Star Wars movie. You still need some anonymous stand-in to drive the car or whatever.

What about All the Money in the World, replacing Kevin Spacey with Christopher Plummer? Seems a little less ethical though likely cheaper to downgrade an actor's performance to just being a stand-in. Though is that much different than, say, overdubbing Andie Macdowell's voice in Tarzan the Ape Man with Glenn Close?

The more I watch these, the more I see where they're not so accurate. It's crazy how well they fit into the lighting and shadows, but kinda lose their luster as soon as something partially hides the face, like a chopped-up piece of a door.

pplains, Sunday, 14 July 2019 23:29 (two years ago) link

idgi why they didn't put his face on the wife and kid also?

lumen (esby), Monday, 15 July 2019 00:17 (two years ago) link

You think I'm joking, but wait until you see the Fight Club one.

pplains, Monday, 15 July 2019 00:37 (two years ago) link


Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 July 2019 04:39 (two years ago) link

"Deserves Its Own Thread"

Acronym's been around for at least 12 hours since I came up with it two posts ago.

pplains, Monday, 15 July 2019 12:42 (two years ago) link

Today, quite literally, the twins from THE SHINING (right) told me to buy this ring (left) during a craft fair on Kubrick's estate. I feel like I've completed some kind of boss level

— Tim Robey (@trim_obey) July 7, 2019

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Monday, 15 July 2019 13:42 (two years ago) link

Mordy, Sunday, 21 July 2019 00:54 (two years ago) link

by the way, in Portuguese it's called...

StanM, Sunday, 21 July 2019 12:11 (two years ago) link

The green bathroom set is great!

calstars, Sunday, 21 July 2019 12:36 (two years ago) link

Can't help wondering how many innocent people are about to be framed for crimes they didn't commit while we work out the particular bugs of this acid trip technology

That said, I look forward to seeing myself as Spock

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 22 July 2019 00:56 (two years ago) link

The Shining seems like particularly fertile ground for this dumb tech. Would like to see Halloran’s face on the Grady twins, or Ullman’s visage on the old woman in the bathroom.

calstars, Monday, 22 July 2019 01:05 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

The Shining starring Vladimir Putin

| (Latham Green), Monday, 19 August 2019 12:51 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

calstars, Friday, 20 September 2019 16:54 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

lol 12 years ago I called this Kubrick's second worst movie (after Eyes Wide Shut) although after watching most of it over the weekend in a hotel room (lol) I feel a bit more generous towards it.

Which makes uh Full Metal Jacket his second worst movie, I guess? The back half of that is a slog.

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 November 2019 21:58 (one year ago) link

Do people just not count Fear and Desire when making statements like that?

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Monday, 25 November 2019 22:05 (one year ago) link

in my case yes, it's the only one I've never seen

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 November 2019 22:08 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

The Shining.

— Amazon Movie Reviews (@AmznMovieRevws) February 7, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 7 February 2020 18:06 (one year ago) link

Ashamed to say but there’s a shining Mountain Dew commercial out now, wtf fml

calstars, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:54 (one year ago) link

Fuck advertising

calstars, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:55 (one year ago) link

Mountain Dew pouring through the elevator lobby in that ad made me lol, not gonna lie.

circa1916, Saturday, 8 February 2020 04:43 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

“The Shining” but from an Aunt’s POV.#31auntsforhalloween

— Andrew Farmer (@thatsajellyfish) October 10, 2020

Two Meter Peter (Ste), Sunday, 11 October 2020 08:56 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Don't begrudge it to me, J.J.--I'm allowing myself exactly one of these.

clemenza, Friday, 22 January 2021 20:19 (nine months ago) link

late lol at that aunt twitter

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:36 (nine months ago) link

Good one

calstars, Friday, 22 January 2021 20:41 (nine months ago) link

Just to clarify, I lifted that from somewhere else...Thanks for pointing out the Aunt's POV tweet--that is pretty great.

clemenza, Friday, 22 January 2021 20:51 (nine months ago) link

"Once again, I am asking you to come and play with us, Danny."

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:29 (nine months ago) link

six months pass...

re-read the novel & i just need to dump this out of my head because i am working through some shit lol

I think the disconnect btw Novel Jack vs Movie Jack needs to be expressed like, um… it’s not that movie jack is bad & novel jack is good
there’s more nuance & subtlety carried in the book, and i think ultimately, as w most SK books to movies, what is lost is the internal strugglesof the characters because that’s where all his best writing really lives imo
and it is not something easily shown onscreen & kubrick is not one for that stuff anyway

the thing is novel jack *knows* deep down that he is incapable of not fucking up, and wants to earn himself a reprieve from fucking up by putting himself somewhere where he hopefully can’t. Removing all stimuli, etc.
And naively/selfishly thinking that by doing that, his family will be ok by extension.
it’s all addict-driven thought, clean slates, etc.
like if i do THIS perfectly then everything will be fine, but the pressure to do everything right is what makes it so much harder because you are starting with a flawed premise that you are even emotionally able to achieve such a high bar … so it becomes self-fulfilling addict-brain self-sabotage.


what the movie takes away is the really slow, scary way that the hotel is trying to tune jack into selfdestruct, tuning him into the self isolating hunted addict mind where everyone is against him, where alcohol makes him the better version of himself, where he is finally surrounded by people and parties and not left to his thoughts & doubts & fears of being a bad father, bad writer, bad person, alcoholic etc

the way the book slowly dials him in to the poison brain is so well done, like it starts SO early and you don’t always catch that that’s whats happening to him. and it’s truly, genuinely heartbreaking towards the end, like watching someone slowly turning inside out, the moment where the hotel wins its fight with him when he is rationalizing his father’s abuse of his mother when we’ve already walked through the horror that he witnessed. like, oh. ok he’s gone.

and worse … when Danny sees his dad and the dread he experiences when he realizes the dad he loves is no longer there….

that emotional journey is the whole point of the book, i think. not jusr the journey of the addict, but the moment for the child of the addict when a parent is replaced by a monster, and the real loss that is felt when they realize what is happening.
jack is abusive to danny throughout the book yes but it co-exists in a real way with a tender relationship & genuine sweet moments of parenting, and without any of that tenderness, with Jack as just a jerk all the time like he is in the movie, there’s nothing for danny to lose, and there’s no real tragedy in jack giving himself over completely to the hotel’s malevolent pull/ addiction.

thank you for attending my TED talk

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 August 2021 07:19 (two months ago) link

The directors cut of Doctor Sleep is v good, because they chapterize it, so it’s like watching a 6-ep HBO miniseries

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 21 August 2021 07:29 (two months ago) link

Also, yeah, rewatching the film and re-reading the book last month does kinda justify SK’s position to me of why he didn’t like the adaption.

Tho I don’t know if this justifies the 1997 tv miniseries, which you can watch in full on (with commercial breaks!). That one is more hilariously dated than anything just by showing Tony in a VERY 1997 outfit, glasses, and hairstyle.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 21 August 2021 07:33 (two months ago) link

VG your fandom posts are always such a treat, brings me into the joy you feel and lets me love it too. Don't ever stop!

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 21 August 2021 10:35 (two months ago) link

OTM, don’t stop ever

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 21 August 2021 13:56 (two months ago) link

thx u guys :)

rereading it, i definitely was struck by how much of this story was SO personal for SK, wrestling w fatherhood, alcoholism, etc which def explains why he was always so outspoken about the Kubrick movie

i love the Kubrick movie too though!
but i do find the Shelley Duvall stuff hard to watch, especially at the end.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 August 2021 15:49 (two months ago) link

When you were reading the book, were you picturing the characters as Nicholson, Duvall etc?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 21 August 2021 16:03 (two months ago) link

Novel Jack felt more Michael Keaton to me, you need someone who can do the genuine tender moments but look like theyre maybe holding a tiny crazy thought in their head at the same time
Wendy i pictured her more like a blonde Julianne nicholson.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 August 2021 16:09 (two months ago) link

its hard to picture Nicholson as jack in the early chapters, but later when he starts to really go to crazytown you can def see where the casting came from, even the lines sound like him

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 August 2021 16:11 (two months ago) link

Oh man I'd love to see early 80s Keaton in that part

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 21 August 2021 16:15 (two months ago) link

right? i think he would have been perfect

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 August 2021 16:19 (two months ago) link

iirc king was angry about the nicholson casting as it made the transition from all work to no play sorta meaningless; you knew he was apeshit immediately

yeah exactly

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 August 2021 16:36 (two months ago) link

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