Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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Trump's campaign would absolutely attack Biden on this, like the stuff about Hillary's "racist mentor" (Byrd, I think) - the point is not to address the issue, it's to take it off the table so that people who don't like to think of themselves as racists can continue to not think of themselves as racists as they vote for an out-and-out racist.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

the gop has expended a massive amount of effort to hand wave away the party's long history of racism and anti-semitism to make their supporters think they're all good on these issues. the audacity is staggering.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

ok, willing to admit i'm totally wrong about trump not bringing it up

however, still not sure why it's not best to bring it up now, as part of the democratic primary process, so voters have enough time to think about it and hopefully not vote for him in the primary

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

We're seven months away from the first primary?

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

but in that case...what's the use of talking about anything related to the primary or the election?

wait a second, my mind might be expanding here

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

It's not about winning over potential Trump voters; it's about encouraging Democratic turnout, period. Trump doesn't have enough voters to win, unless nobody shows up for the D candidate.

And this is why the Dems control the House.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

*hits like button*

hollow your fart (m bison), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

Bernie Sanders briefly loses his temper with Stephanie Ruhle pic.twitter.com/YJWfWDTVRa

— Jeff Cimmino (@jeffcimmino) June 20, 2019

I kept seeing this characterized as Bernie "losing his temper" on this issue but it's really a very mild response. What's notable is the level of rationalization going on w/ the press, many of whom really seem to be in the tank for Biden.

Simon H., Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

hard to name the most hardcore Stop Bernie faction

health insurance industry
DNC
Wall Street
msm
ILX lol

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link

that is v mild salsa but some whites will still detect a pepper and call it spicy

hollow your fart (m bison), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link

oh and quelle surprise (sorry if already covered but if so I didn't spot it)

Joe Biden once referred to Democratic presidential candidate Rev. Jesse Jackson as “that boy.” pic.twitter.com/NXW7mTqkWt

— Walker Bragman (@WalkerBragman) June 20, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

I guess JJ wasn't clean and articulate enough to get his respect

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link

my god that MSNBC question was moronic. Good on Sanders for losing his patience; at the 30-second mark, I hoped he'd say something like, "I've answered your question" and he did.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

Remember: Vote Blue no matter who. Our very existence is at stake. pic.twitter.com/MuVzIKvxbT

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) June 20, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

morbs ilx loves bernie!

Vape Store (crüt), Friday, 21 June 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link

there is a pretty vocal anti-Bernie contingent here

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 June 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link

there is a pretty vocal pro and anti-Bernie contingent in any group of 20 or more people

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 June 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link

maybe but given the more or less shared politics here the anti- faction seems oddly strident, lotsa lingering upset from the last go around

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link

p neutral on bernie

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:22 (four years ago) link

Bernie's fine. I just think he has a pretty low ceiling, and would never be elected president.

o. nate, Friday, 21 June 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

reminds me of what they said about someone else...

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:50 (four years ago) link

i for one never stopped believing in george pataki

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link

Sure a lot of people were wrong about Trump. However I don’t really see how that carries over to Bernie. They’re about as different as two candidates can be.

o. nate, Friday, 21 June 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link

For two old white guys, yeah.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 21 June 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

i'm told they both own multiple houses

mookieproof, Friday, 21 June 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

on the political spectrum of old white guy, biden is kind of radical

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 June 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

in that case I think he'd make a fine President of a retirement community in Boca.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 21 June 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

joe biden to a female townhall questioner: do you have a racist bone in your body?

questioner: no

joe biden: do you want one?

— cari (@eatinginmycar) June 21, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 June 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

lol

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 21 June 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

Standing in a tuxedo, Biden compared [Strom] Thurmond to the Confederate general Robert E. Lee: “an opponent without hate, a friend without treachery, a statesman without pretense, a soldier without cruelty and a neighbor without hypocrisy.”

— Jacobin (@jacobinmag) June 22, 2019

damn maybe he *can* court trump voters

Simon H., Saturday, 22 June 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

a Confederate without remorse, a sadist without apology, a traitor without precedne

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 June 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

*precedent

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 June 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

Comrades, "Paul" has uncovered our secret plan. Report to your superiors and await new instructions. https://t.co/60vFi4mKoQ

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) June 22, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 June 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

Memo to Creepy Joe: HRC didn't lose because she failed to charm GOP voters with her "super predators" slur, her Iraq war vote and annihilation of Libya. She lost because she couldn't turn out urban black voters at anything close to Obama's numbers. There was a reason for that...

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) June 22, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 June 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

omg that joe biden racist bone joke.

Yerac, Saturday, 22 June 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

I'd have some respect for the guy if he simply said "As a Catholic, I'm morally opposed to abortion." But instead he lies & changes his position when he gets bad press and, like Trump, loudly denies his own record.https://t.co/g5SNO8yPt4

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) June 23, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 23 June 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

“I think it’s a little unexpected, I don’t think he has figured for this.” - Dianne Feinstein, alleged grownup in politics

NEW: Democrats want White House hopefuls to cool it on Biden attacks https://t.co/iTTCcSfRBD pic.twitter.com/uicfaC3KgF

— The Hill (@thehill) June 21, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

NEW from me + @SherylNYT: Joe Biden says he "got stuck with" writing the crime bills. Not true. Our deep dive into how, as early as '77, he made the expansion of the prison population an explicit legislative goal

"Lock the S.O.B's up," he said in 1994https://t.co/pP2lyDk6gB

— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) June 25, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

In the next debate Sanders and Warren (and whoever else I guess?) should make more of an issue of the fact that Biden has represented a state for decades that more or less exists for the sole purposes of laundering corp profit and hiding taxes (from 2012). https://t.co/3cVoChP2eE

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) July 9, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

Adam H. Johnson has discovered a particularly stupid way to frame Biden's complicity in such atrocities as the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1978. Attack him on his record. Attacking him because he represents Delaware has all the resonance of a soggy Kleenex.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

i think "has represented and enabled and worked for the elites" is strongly implied there

but fuck Delaware on principle

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

Why just 'imply' when you can go straight for the jugular?

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

presumably he isn't suggesting Biden's opponents declaim, "YOU REPRESENTED DELAWARE, sirrah!"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

small states probably shouldn't have senators tbrr

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link

Or maybe one senator for 3 or 4 states, so they feel included.

nickn, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

That NYer article was kind of moving as a portrait of a father-son relationship.

o. nate, Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

That is to say it’s blowing up, because everybody who works for Biden came on thinking keeping his mouth shut was his only hope. https://t.co/3bRFcFvLNe

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) July 26, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

There's no one but Obama to blame for the rehabilitation of Biden's reputation. But left out on his own, Biden can't disguise who is really is (and always has been)... https://t.co/dzCjjU1UWY

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) August 11, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 August 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

jill biden: sure, the other candidates are better, but

.@DrBiden: "..So yes your candidate might be better on, I don’t know, healthcare than Joe is, but you’ve got to look at who’s going to win this election and maybe you have to swallow a little bit and say ok I personally like so and so better but your bottom line has to be that...

— Amanda Golden (@amandawgolden) August 19, 2019

mookieproof, Monday, 19 August 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link


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