The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel - The Tory leadership elections

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I am a man who would fight for your honour
I'll be the hero you're dreaming of
We'll live forever, knowing together
that we did it all for the glory of Gove

ussy

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

http://www.matthewhunt.com/cunt/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

Actually considering now if Johnson lent him a vote or two there

stet, Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link

Really disappointed that I missed my few hours window to make a "cock, muff or bumhole" joke

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

8/1 on Hunt is tempting.

ShariVari, Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

making BJ the party leader is big last throw of the dice energy

||||||||, Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

shamima begum’s baby died in vain then. nice one sajid

||||||||, Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

8/1 on Hunt is tempting.

Worth a cunt, sorry, punt.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

Working for Jeremy Hunt, a memoir by Luke Turner: https://thequietus.com/articles/08944-jeremy-hunt-levenson-enquiry-hotcourses
(apologies to those who've already snickered lengthily at it)

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

“Cunt to win” too ambiguous a bet

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

Can’t believe Gove couldn’t snake his way into the final...we can only hope he invests his pent-up energies in flinging tons of shit

govussy blues (gyac), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

Wonder who the spoiled vote was?

govussy blues (gyac), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

in a way, they're all losers

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

https://www.enca.com/sites/default/files/WEB_PHOTO_SPOILTVOTE.jpg

mark s, Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

stephen crabb is still an MP !

||||||||, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

The French version of being 'between a rock and a hard place' is more eloquent in this instance: choisir entre la peste et le choléra literally means having to choose between the plague and cholera.

pomenitul, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

Did you think he’d just scuttled off?

govussy blues (gyac), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

How long does this shit go on for?

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

22 july I think

||||||||, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

Another month?!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

shamima begum’s baby died in vain then. nice one sajid

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Probably isn't that important to state this but...it would've been carried out anyway whether Sajid got the job or not. And should there be an opportunity to send that msg again (because that's what it was) then it will be taken.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

xp could be even longer than that

May will only resign when she is sure her successor has confidence of Commons, No 10 says - live news https://t.co/iGbsGMsLIu

— The Guardian (@guardian) June 6, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

🤮🤮🤮

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

Popcorn time!

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

Oh wait that's weeks old. Theoretically that means the DUP and a handful of Tories could torpedo whoever wins though?

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

It could in theory be sooner if the first polls are 75-25 to Boris, and Jeremy decides that he'd rather not fork out the ÂŁ150k that that CCHQ want both of them to pay for the hustings. And possibly by sparing Boris that hassle, he might have a spare cabinet post going?

But more likely he'll figure that just by getting Boris to repeat all the various and contradictory things that he's been variously saying to get backers from Steve Baker to Matt Hancock, he might yet win.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

wasn't the 'May only resigning when it's clear her successor has confidence of Commons' thing a response to reassure people concerned that the tories could bring forward the parliamentary summer recess (to shortly before the end of the leadership contest), and the new PM would then have a month in office without having to face parliament

soref, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

My take on it is that he'll need to enter into new DUP talks. Doubt there will be any Tory resistance as no chance of any of that shower of cunts triggering an election.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

“I’ve been the underdog right from the start and I like to prove people wrong. And the way I’m going to win this race is by showing that the best way to Brexit is by sending the European Union a prime minister they can engage with, a tough negotiator, someone who has a bottom line and won’t give up until I get what is right for our country. But also someone who is prepared to walk away.”


So you won't give up, but you hold in reserve the threat to give up at any time.

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

A tough negotiator prepared to shoot him self in the foot if he doesn’t get what he wants

stet, Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

So the race for pm boils down to the age old question of:

The EU mostly resembles:
a) Nazi Germany
b) A Soviet prison

If a), vote Bozza. If b), vote Hunt.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

stalag stalin

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

Srsly, I know being pm is BJ's dream, but why *now*? Why nick the job when surely he must know he cannot do "better" than May, cannot deliver anything other than being the PM overseeing a no-deal crash out of the EU, and it will end a failure? Am I missing something that can make him the Churchillian legernd he wants to be? Is he really this daft and power mad? Is that all there is to it?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

something might turn up. something always has, all his life.

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link

I also ask myself those questions LBI. All the losers will get another shot at this in 12 - 36 months time

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

OK maybe not McVey

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

he’s driven by power. like a dog chasing a car he’ll do it if he’s got the slightest sniff. like a dog chasing a car he doesn’t know what to do with it when he’s got it.

Fizzles, Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link

more like a dog chasing the front wheels of a tractor

calzino, Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link

A dog that hasn't been neutered.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

Thx NV, 'cause I felt half foolish even asking those questions. As if I'm the one who's mad, not the Tories (when in fact it's both obv).

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

"It could in theory be sooner if the first polls are 75-25 to Boris, and Jeremy decides that he'd rather not fork out the ÂŁ150k that that CCHQ want both of them to pay for the hustings. And possibly by sparing Boris that hassle, he might have a spare cabinet post going?"

It's a shame Hunt can't just give Johnson a walk over because it would be too much like a May style coronation

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

Yeah i think they'll want to go thru the motions

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

The prospect of Boris Johnson going through an entire month without saying something stupid seems implausible - if that is, and it's an enormous if, he's actually put under any pressure and held up to proper scrutiny.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

He seems to be better at keeping quiet in the run up to elections than he is at any of the other things he is paid for

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

It doesn't especially matter whether he says anything dodgy or not. He's said enough already and not enough people who will be voting give a shit.

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link

True but I still like to see the cunt squirm, if only for a short while.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link

unfettered boris is something that will unwind badly for him in election conditions... well imo anyway. they daren't even let unfettered boris out in front of fucking tory members - what hope in a GE?

calzino, Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link

I think he could win a GE or at least have a decent shot at it, under this scenario: a) he wins leadership, b) he goes straight to Brussels, c) he comes back with nothing, says EU is being obstructionist, only solution is no-deal, d) he does a deal with Farage, whereby Farage promises not to put up candidates in any seat where there is a no-deal supporting Tory candidate, e) he calls an election.

If that all happened quickly enough it might catch Labour in the middle of a civil war with no clear brexit message and the Tories might pull it off, at least as a minority govt with support from DUP and Brexit Party. Of course a lot of things would have to go right for them, but sadly I don't think it's impossible for the Tories to win the next election.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 21 June 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link

I definitely think the Tories can win the next election.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Friday, 21 June 2019 06:24 (four years ago) link

he does a deal with Farage, whereby Farage promises not to put up candidates in any seat where there is a no-deal supporting Tory candidate,

Whats the likelihood of this? I'm not seeing it

anvil, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:01 (four years ago) link


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