The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel - The Tory leadership elections

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Not sure if that’s worse than this:

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2019/jun/15/tory-leadership-race-kitchen-cabinet-rachel-cooke

ShariVari, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

She’s not white, the general public didn’t give a fuck before and they won’t now.

― govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's more about being clumsy, and the consequences and to whom. Maybe ppl won't care in this case but they might elsewhere.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

xp we're gonna die etc etc

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

Rory Stewart he “certainly hopes” he’s won Southend MP David Amess by offering to make his town a city. And he offers to do the same for other Tory MPs. “More towns, definitely definitely. Anyone who wants to vote for me... anyone can be a city.”

— Dan Bloom (@danbloom1) June 19, 2019

tbf I am not sure the candidates are any less obnoxiously whimsical.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

but doesn't city status open up towns to more grants and funding etc?

calzino, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

My god the desperation to hold this worst of all jobs is quite something.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

Some of it (not Stewart) is probably more looking to get closest to the job, nab a cabinet position, then judge the right time to resign when it all catches fire.

Back here again in a few months.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

but doesn't city status open up towns to more grants and funding etc?

I don’t think so, it’s status and bragging rights more than anything else.

My town was a city for 1300 years and messed up the paperwork to lose it in the late 90s. It took them four years to notice.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

Owen Bennett is the guy who’s writing a book about Gove and brags about it, iirc?

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

strong testament to the human capacity for optimism imo
xps

||||||||, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

Stewart is such a nob but the Boris-baiting is starting to get fun

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

lol bold

Rory Stewart he “certainly hopes” he’s won Southend MP David Amess by offering to make his town a city. And he offers to do the same for other Tory MPs. “More towns, definitely definitely. Anyone who wants to vote for me... anyone can be a city.”

— Dan Bloom (@danbloom1) June 19, 2019

||||||||, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

Boris Johnson 143
Michael Gove 51
Jeremy Hunt 54
Sajid Javid 38
Rory Stewart 27

... the dream is over.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

the May deal dies its last death and a set of reality-deniers get to try it all over again.

Election by autumn, I guess

stet, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

will be vaguely interested in what desperate delusion centrist rory stans will cling to next

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

RIP big man, heaven needed a rando dwelling heaven talking to other rando's

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

Thinking of you in these difficult times, xyzzzzzzzz_

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

xps yes for the others, with Boris there's a 50/50 chance that he sticks a sprig of parsley on it and calls it The Great British Bulldog Deal, he'll do that thing where he waves his jowls and spittle goes everywhere, it'll be great.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

Don't think they'll VONC a new leader this year. Those principled Remain Tories will fold like steel in burning jet fuel

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

tory leadership election looking about as competitive as the SPFL premiership

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

rip big man, we’ll always have kabul

RUSSIA’S SEXIEST POKER STAR ELECTROCUTED BY HAIRDRYER (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

xxp and they’ll be backed by the “regretfully I must” rump CHUK party plus assorted ne’er do wells.

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

the intrepid opium smoker and great white hope of the moderates doesn't even get a podium finish.. lol!

calzino, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

Look, the EU is the most important thing in the world except for pwning the Left

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

will be vaguely interested in what desperate delusion centrist rory stans will cling to next

the latest thing I saw (before these votes so there are probably some hot new takes already) is that Rory wasn't trying to win, just show that he's an adult ready for next time to clean up after any Boris-induced mess

and if that is his thinking, well, that means he isn't going to do anything to stop Boris making a mess, no? def no resigning the whip, prob still no voting to stop No Deal, only VONCing if sure it won't go through - do the bare minimum to keep the "finally a sensible Tory" murmurs going but the bigger the mess, the more chance he must see of capitalising on it

tears will ensue, excuses will be made (again), etc

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

brb, gonna become an opium addict

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

honestly smoking opium at a wedding in iran sounds like a good laugh

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

Kwasi Kwarteng's defence of Boris against accusations of racism seems to be that he's been accused of that before - like there's some sort of statute of limitations in operation or a limit on the number of times you can criticize someone on the same subject.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

xp. pass the fesenjan please, Ali. *nods off*

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

Who is Kenneth Clarke going to back now?

Alba, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

Hunt started as Remainer then went crazy for the Brexit. Maybe Gove's crossed him going the other direction, I've lost track.

Alba, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

Sajid Javid voted Remain.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

Ha, yes I'd forgotten that. What a world.

Alba, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

He's relying on everyone else forgetting about it.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

Kwasi Kwarteng's main responsibility seems to be appearing on C4 News, sighing and saying "Look..." in a condescending manner in defence of whatever shit his leader/future leader is up to.

fetter, Thursday, 20 June 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link

BREAK: Round 4 Results
Johnson 157
Hunt 59
Gove 61
Javid 34

JAVID OUT

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) June 20, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

Boris Johnson - 157

Jeremy Hunt - 59

Michael Gove - 61

Sajid Javid - 34

xp

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link

Should have put some money on boris in early june, nothing whatsoever has changed but he's gone from 3/1 to 1/10

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2019/may/28/tory-leadership-contest-odds-tracker-whos-up-and-whos-down

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:18 (four years ago) link

ah 2 spoiled ballots - dick move at this juncture

nashwan, Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:22 (four years ago) link

look, Rory's a passionate guy

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link

One spoiled ballot obv May, the other...?

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:24 (four years ago) link

xxxp
you can still get 7/4 on next GE in 2019, isn't that buying money?

calzino, Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:24 (four years ago) link

Kenneth Clarke (xp)

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

johnson, gove and cunt - perhaps the most challenging marry/fuck/kill lineup in history

RUSSIA’S SEXIEST POKER STAR ELECTROCUTED BY HAIRDRYER (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link

it was saj, he was a politician

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link

Pretty sure Ken Clarke will vote Boris tbh.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

B-but he is the father of the commons wtf

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link

Really, Tom?

Last week he was pretty damning. Spoiled paper sounds about right.

On Boris Johnson, Clarke is withering in a way that borders on contempt. He says he was a “disaster” as foreign secretary, and when asked if he could be equally terrible as prime minister, he answers in an instant. “Yes, he certainly has the potential to be. Unless he suddenly starts taking it seriously. I am not sure he knows what he would do to get us through the crisis.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/15/kenneth-clarke-bring-down-no-deal-government?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Alba, Thursday, 20 June 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

Yes, really.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

c'mon he listens to miles davis, you've got to take his word as bond!

calzino, Thursday, 20 June 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link


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