no, i didn't know that the June 2019 US Politics thread was nasty

It isn't socioeconomic status that binds them but rather an ill-defined and unending sense of grievance, of something having been taken from them or tarnished, probably by someone(s) brown. America has been whipped up into an incoherent froth and some people really dig a dude who'll keep up the whipping instead of calmly explaining that we should maybe just chill and appreciate that we don't have all that much to grouse about. Or didn't have, anyway.

I just dont get it. A man so conspicously show-offy rich he has GOLD FUCKING TOILETS, and a foreign snoooty wife, and kids with trust funds and snooty handed-on-a-platter jobs, and fucking country clubs.

And this is the man white, working class, hardscrabble americans think is on their side?

― Stoop Crone (Trayce)

the money isn't the problem -- FDR and JFK had dough. It's, as OL said, the sense of grievance.

I have friends and family members who are sensitive to trump news and have learned to avoid too much exposure or talking about it and I know there are ILXors who feel the same. But I haven't really felt that way...my feeling has been that's it is the (perversely compelling) reality, you can't just hide from it.

But I just saw clips from last night's rally and really don't think I'm cut out for this all over again.

This situation is sickening.

There's always the Madonna album.

if it comes to that okay fine

My parents, on the verge of their ninth decade, have begun to say that they'll emigrate from the USA if the current president wins a second term. Given the heat I've gotten from them for quitting the country, I've been struck by that. The lack of seriousness of USA politics juxtaposed with their daily experiences with USA healthcare, have tipped them into despair. Obviously they're resorting to cliché, but I'm surprised to hear it from people as old and settled as they are.

I just dont get it. A man so conspicously show-offy rich he has GOLD FUCKING TOILETS, and a foreign snoooty wife, and kids with trust funds and snooty handed-on-a-platter jobs, and fucking country clubs.

And this is the man white, working class, hardscrabble americans think is on their side?

well, yeah...he's just like them isn't he? whines about everything, desperate for approval, scared of dark-skinned people...yeah, he lives a lavish lifestyle, but isn't that exactly how these folks would live if they had megarich dads?

It's also aspirational. If a bloviating, spasmic blob of fetid flesh can coast to worldwide fame and the highest office of the land with no demonstrable skillset and an overinflated sense of his worth (both personal and financial), why, anybody can! USA! USA!

he lack of seriousness of USA politics juxtaposed with their daily experiences with USA healthcare, have tipped them into despair.

feel this. the stupidity is part of what is so horrifying.

I think it's because a lot of the unserious people don't yet have first-hand experience of the consequences of their lack of seriousness. Or, having experienced it, lack an understanding of causation sufficient to grasp that their persistent black eyes are a consequence of continually punching themselves in the face.

"I just dont get it. A man so conspicously show-offy rich he has GOLD FUCKING TOILETS, and a foreign snoooty wife, and kids with trust funds and snooty handed-on-a-platter jobs, and fucking country clubs.
And this is the man white, working class, hardscrabble americans think is on their side?"

He represents the most easily imaginable rich guy fantasy for lots of (not all!!!) lower middle class suburbanites; in particular those who don't fantasize about winning the lottery and investing in stocks and art, instead fantasize about excessive gaudy vegas trophy shit like GOLD FUCKING TOILETS and buying toys.

xpost woke up, sheeple!

the information age and social media have mainly empowered moron-americans by constantly stimulating them into persistent and effective political action let’s deal with it.

He represents the most easily imaginable rich guy fantasy for lots of (not all!!!) lower middle class suburbanites; in particular those who don't fantasize about winning the lottery and investing in stocks and art, instead fantasize about excessive gaudy vegas trophy shit like GOLD FUCKING TOILETS and buying toys.

I think they just vote for him because he's a white supremacist. I can't think of a single Republican belief that doesn't ultimately boil down to "if it helps minorities or immigrants, I'm against it".

xpost If by 'deal with it' you mean 'start snatching smartphones from everyone I encounter and chucking them into the nearest storm drain or garbage disposal' I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Idiot Schumer Part 9637

Ask your local Death Squad... https://t.co/YbB9QeUsaZ

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) June 19, 2019

Normally the idea is that they would ask at embassies, no?

I mean, that is the idea when it's proposed by the left in Europe.

He is "smart" and "educated" and "successful" and "cosmopolitan" yet has the same boorishness, same Dunning-Krugerness, same facile solutions to complex problems, same prejudices as they do

The lesson being that, for some, the loud + persistent repetition of utter bullshit trumps (pardon the pun) readily-observable reality.

He represents the most easily imaginable rich guy fantasy for lots of (not all!!!) lower middle class suburbanites; in particular those who don't fantasize about winning the lottery and investing in stocks and art, instead fantasize about excessive gaudy vegas trophy shit like GOLD FUCKING TOILETS and buying toys

i def think this extends beyond "lower middle class suburbanites"-- there are extremely comfortable upper-middle class ppl ) who feel this way. so many shitbags who inherited their dad's chevy dealership who think their imagined travails would be lessened by getting rid of the minimum wage and getting to say the "n" word with impunity.

Petit bourgeoisie, basically.

Roy Moore is running for senator in Alabama again, in 2020

Asked what he'll do differently now versus his 2017 Senate bid, Roy Moore says: "I would like to make more personal contact with people."

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) June 20, 2019

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEPwn47XkAMHMUa.jpg

ts: roy moore vs todd t. squirrel

the good people of Alabama would never make such a terrible decision as to choose roy moore as their candidate

maybe i'm late here but i for one can't wait for Hope Hicks to deliver the decisive blow to Trump's presidency, i heard she's not returning his calls and has been completely cooperative. Think we finally got him~

Every time I see her name, I have a mental image of Hope Solo testifying, only I keep forgetting what Hope Solo looks like so I end up imagining Lindsey Vonn

omar def onto something, this will be the moment he finally becomes not president.

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1503081239534.gif

lohan plays her in the biopic

Thought for sure she was going to take a big bite out of something at the end there, perhaps like a baked ham or a kitten.

she should have thrown a rock into a lake at the end

6 of the 18 members of Illinois' congressional delegation, and another 70 of the state legislature, have gone on record saying that impeachment proceedings should begin. i'm sure the same is true in many other states. seems like the momentum is continuing to shift against trump on impeachment

The level of obstruction to congressional oversight warrants it imo

you'd think all the crimes committed by cabinet members would warrant it, too. did that fleshy bitch Tom Price ever reimburse taxpayers for his travel expenses what feels like a thousand years ago?

it's amazing someone my age was a major player in this ghoulish saga

Hope Hicks, Who Saw Everything and Said Nothing, Just Exposed Donald Trump
Her stilettos clicking down the marble halls of the Rayburn Building was the sound of the stone wall cracking, from the inside out.

from the daily beast. lol.

this is the most nothing story.

uhhh?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-approves-strikes-on-iran-but-then-abruptly-pulls-back/ar-AADaA3K?ocid=spartanntp

There it is...

AP: Russian President Vladimir Putin is warning the U.S. against using force on Iran, saying it would have catastrophic consequences.

— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) June 20, 2019

This is obviously part of a threaded tweet, but still feels awfully deliberate:

....Death to America. I terminated deal, which was not even ratified by Congress, and imposed strong sanctions. They are a much weakened nation today than at the beginning of my Presidency, when they were causing major problems throughout the Middle East. Now they are Bust!....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2019

So 150 are still alive this morning who would have been dead so that's got to be a good thing, right?

I mean Fuck Trump obviously.

A source told me 30 minutes ago that Trump was pleased with his own performance last night, loved being in command by ordering the strikes and by then ordering the stand-down. And the president just... tweeted it. https://t.co/tUPSym7inn

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 21, 2019

of course "sir" is the real chef's kiss in that tweet. really surprised we didn't hear the General was in tears

A source told me 30 minutes ago that Trump was pleased with his own performance last night, loved being in command by ordering the strikes and by then ordering the stand-down. And the president just... tweeted it. https://t.co/tUPSym7inn
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 21, 2019
― Frederik B, Friday, June 21, 2019 9:34 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fucking hell, can't we get someone to turn this motherfucker on to video games?

ugh these fucking tweets are disturbing

is this really happening

Still, there remained doubt inside the United States government over whether the drone, or another American surveillance aircraft, this one flown by a military aircrew, did violate Iranian airspace at some point, according to a senior administration official. The official said the doubt was one of the reasons Mr. Trump called off the strike — which could under international norms be viewed as an act of war.

The delay by United States Central Command in publicly releasing GPS coordinates of the drone when it was shot down — hours after Iran did — and errors in the labeling of the drone’s flight path when the imagery was released, contributed to that doubt, officials said.

A lack of provable “hard evidence” about the location of the drone when it was shot down, a defense official said, put the administration in an isolated position at what could easily end up being the start of yet another war with a Middle East adversary — this one with a proven ability to strike back.

There were virtually no European allies stepping forward on Thursday to back the Trump administration, heightening the fear that it could soon find itself in an intractable war with only Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Israel for allies, officials said.

the coalition of the uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh