How many times is Godzilla going to be rebooted? 2014 edition

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many xpost concerned nonsensical humans take on new layers of nonsense in *this* movie lemme tell ya

plus it’s not the fact of them that bugs me, it’s that we spend way too much time with them & everything about them is eyerollingly dumb/boring/both

sounds more like a documentary amirite hey

The humans were presented as if you were supposed to care deeply about them and their motivations, except they were completely unsympathetic and their motivations made zero sense.

otm

then again tho i mean thank god they all took turns standing around explaining themselves to each other or we would have never known their deeply stupid reasons

I spent a good chunk of the movie trying to connect the family with the first movie only to learn they weren't in it. Yet they were presented as if we'd be totally familiar with them from the beginning.

that's myths for ya

I did like the monsters though. King Ghidorah was cool.

King Ghidorah was pretty neat
I liked how beefy they made Godzilla too

Wait they weren’t in the first movie? Christ, this movie seems even dumber now, was the dead son that they won’t shut up about in it at least?

I don't think so, but that's what I'm saying! The treat the kid as a tragedy we're supposed to be familiar with. False memories, maaan.

Was anyone from this besides Ken Watanabe in the first one?

they were not in it; everything about them is at the beginning of this one, which writes them marginally into the events in san francisco from the last one. doctor serizawa his colleague and the david straithairn admiral are holdovers. plus the big guy obviously.

absolute unit

Man, Shin Godzilla was soooooo weird. Also pretty boring, like watching a filmed radio play at times. But cool destruction, guess.

I described Shin Godzilla as "nonstop panic" so I guess we disagree on that. It's an office drama as much as anything but I was into it.

I thought there was not enough panic! Everyone was really cool and collected and practical and reasonable, almost to comic effect.

"If we were to devise a coagulate, maybe we can hinder Godzilla's cooling abilities."
"Yes, that is a very good idea. What time is it?"
"It's 5:42."
"Hmm, at this hour the traffic could be pretty terrible. Can we get a helicopter?"
"Maybe. Here, fill out these three forms and we'll send it over to accounting to see if we have enough funds left."
"Oh no."
"What is it?"
"The printer is out of ink."
"Damn. Can you check the filing cabinet?"
"Hmm, let me see. No, it's locked. Do you have the key?"
"I think there's a copy of the key with the secretary."
"Great. In the meantime, are you staying hydrated?"
"Yes, but the water bubbler will need to be replaced soon."
"Hmm, good point. Perhaps we can have someone make a run to Costco for a case of bottled water?"
"That's a very good idea, but Godzilla has destroyed the main road."
"Damn again. How about the Americans? Can they deliver some water?"
"We can ask, but the treaty does not outline water distribution, only recycling protocol that addresses the empty bottles."
"This is a terrible development."

And every line of that exchange would be delivered by a different character in a suit and take place in a different anonymous bunker or board room. And then Godzilla would do something cool.

Shin Godzilla is great but it is fundamentally about meetings iirc

Kinda funny, considering these films as reflections of the anxieties of the societies that produce them, how detonating nuclear warheads is like super cazh in these latest American ones

xp yes exactly, it’s a satire

I guess as a satire it's pretty amusing? Except googly-eyed Godzilla is pretty menacing in this one, which undercuts the satire.

Wait why?

It’s satirising the Japanese bureaucratic response to natural disasters, how is that undercut by the disaster being scary

did he mean papercut

I suppose I just found the satire kind of dumb, because like I said, everything they wanted to do made perfect practical sense. If they are already worrying about floods and nuclear reactors and things of that nature in the movie, what difference does it make to throw in a giant supernatural monster? I mean, it works just as well as a satire of Godzilla films!

Maybe we just live in a post satire world.

I saw it less as a satire and more as a compelling office drama. You can only get away with going that deep on the minutea of office decision-making when the fate of Tokyo is on the line. Probably a big part of the appeal of (certain) war movies as well.

> how detonating nuclear warheads is like super cazh in these latest American ones

If you are stupid enough to watch the straight to TV films on the horror channel you'll see they fix everything with nuclear weapons. Asteroids, tornados, alien invasions, you name it.

Shin Godzilla was a bit weird, yes, but I'd still take it over the last two Hollywood Godzillas (not seen the new one)

rewatching the recent Hollywood Godzilla venture and, yes, it does a lot less with a huge budget than many low budget Godzilla movies

they really leaned too hard into the family drama aspects and boring white guy gets too much screen time

the plot about humans deciding to revive the "titans" in order to correct a planet out of balance, only to realize they've unleashed something that's not of earth, has some legs

tbh the best -- and maybe only good character -- is Ken Watanabe who gets all the reaction shots telling the real plot. he gets that something much bigger is going on, and his sacrifice in the movie is a good depiction of pure religious devotion to something he fears but respects

otm. couldn't believe all my kaiju friends were going gonzo for this, because the Vera Farmiga storyline was fuckin' terrible.

by the time the big battle happened I was bored af

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― j., Tuesday, June 18, 2019 7:16 PM (seven months ago)

too much time spent showing us that humans are completely irrelevant and incapable of having any effect at all -- just report that the monsters killed all the people offscreen and give us some monster fights with better lighting

Never commented on this thread I guess, but I did love the 2014 one.

yeah this recent one was bad but there was a moment where someone is watching tv and to scenes of giant monsters going apeshit all over the globe a newscaster says in totally flat-affect newscaster voice "this is the worst disaster in human history!" and I totally lost it.

it does suffer or benefit from the script curse where anything that tries to be funny falls flat but lines like that are hilarious

I mean, I suppose it gets points for the number of ridiculous lines of dialogue they can squeeze into one trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=claci32Zjvc

that preview belongs to some different pre-covid world where we were supposed to take this even vaguely seriously.

"godzilla's out there and he's hurting people and we don't know why!"

so much stuttering NAAAAAAAAAOWWWWWW effect

kong’s constantly shifting size is one of the weirdest things about this “franchise,” from 1933 on. presumably a kong tall enough to battle godzilla would also be too big to stand comfortably on top of the empire state building.

Insurance companies raising rates in NY

also had to rewatch the part where kong somehow stops godzilla’s radioactive breath in midair and pushes it back at him a few times just to make sure i hadn’t imagined it

Doesn't he reflect it with something? But seriously, Godzilla has rage and *range*, how can they even consider this a fair fight? Maybe Godzilla is just really dumb, and Kong has giant ape smarts.

can't wait for all the "this movie is antireptile and kong is canceled" lolz, oh how meme-y it will be

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— Fred Delicious (@Fred_Delicious) January 24, 2021

The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall. - Godzilla

kong’s constantly shifting size is one of the weirdest things about this “franchise,” from 1933 on. presumably a kong tall enough to battle godzilla would also be too big to stand comfortably on top of the empire state building.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.)

He doesn't even appear to have a consistent size in this one trailer. The obvious way to pitch it for me would be to have Kong be much smaller than Godzilla, but also much more cunning.

presumably a kong tall enough to battle godzilla would also be too big to stand comfortably on top of the empire state building.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 24 January 2021 22:02 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Post 9/11 structural standards imo

can't imagine any value from watching this trailer that wouldn't be bettered by watching Shin Godzilla or the '33 Kong again

that preview belongs to some different pre-covid world where we were supposed to take this even vaguely seriously

yeah "THIS YEAR, ONE WILL FALL" maybe not the best tagline for a 2021 trailer idk

I suggest GODZILLA VS KONG: WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT?

I'm not really keen on Kong's neatly trimmed hipster beard.

Will this be the franchise entry that finally tackles the issue of the monsters' respective digestive processes?

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