Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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I used 'imperialist' as shorthand for 'uses its position of relative privilege to impose its vision (of poverty, in this instance) upon objectively poorer countries'. 'Nationalistic' is probably closer to what I meant to say.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link

Galling irony intended, of course.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 11:47 (four years ago) link

Daniel - I don't see much of this out there in public discourse, no. When the UN report came out (or a Ken Loach film that portrays the harshness of welfare) I saw denial from Tories that it's as bad as portrayed.

In the past much of the talk is around deficit reduction. And much further back Osborne going "the UK could end up like Greece" but that's again linked to the deficit. All about getting your house in order.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link

I thought Calzino's post was referring to that previous argument with Pom. Then I saw his hissy fit over it.

Then I did an imperialism.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link

'Tantrum', 'aneurysm', 'hissy fit' – totally cool ways of describing foreign correctives to self-absorbed discourse. I suppose I had it coming, breaking the circlejerk and all.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 11:57 (four years ago) link

Talking about people being killed by austerity in the UK, in the UK politics thread = "self-absorbed discourse".

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link

Oh so the reference to Romania was in my head. Gotcha.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link

Don't think you are trying to get it. But that's ok you are good like this.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

fwiw I hear plenty of "don't gripe, things are worse elsewhere", here in the UK as I did in Portugal, too. It's a timeless classic afaict, popular across cultures and eras.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link

xxp
I've already explained how Romania came to be mentioned in the thread and it wasn't in a manner that was being reductive about the poverty there or looking down my neo-imperialist nose at Romanians, even if you did decide to take it like that.

calzino, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link

Austerity nearly killed my partner with MS in '17. I'm not trying to be some armchair general here, and I genuinely despair at what I see austerity has done to the local community on a daily basis. I might be a repetitive angry cunt at times, but let me tell you.. it is heartfelt!

calzino, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link

Fair enough, calz – I genuinely empathise. My main beef is with comrade alphabet at this point (or was, because every fruitless exchange deserves to come to an end).

pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link

Lads. Sorry, had to be said.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

ah look

godfellaz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link

book a rest lads

nashwan, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

The image of Corbyn solemnly reading the James Joyce letters to his wife (NB Joyce to his wife, not Corbyn to his) floated into my head and now I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyway, I wanted to post this, so!

Islamaphobia rots you inside https://t.co/RZIQDzNRO6

— Tom Flynn (@Flynny123) June 18, 2019

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

it's a pisser when you lock the wrong portrait in your study and then it's too late when you notice ppl saying "whose that gaunt ugly fucker".

calzino, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

apols to the dorian gray rulebook which I'm a bit sketchy on.

calzino, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

Chuka left #Labour promising he’d never help Corbyn & crew get the keys to No 10.

Now he’s promised he’ll be a @LibDems ‘until the day he dies’

So @ChukaUmunna - come a GE & your new LibDem leader moves to prop up a Corbyn Govt which promise will you keep? https://t.co/7IcRips7lv

— Anna Soubry MP (@Anna_Soubry) June 18, 2019

soubz just calmly posting as she normally does after that 3rd g+t has kicked in.

calzino, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link

At least she's clear about the unifying principle that held CHUK together

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

I think she must be the only person who is paranoid about a LabDem coalition happening.

calzino, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

It's obv:

If that was to happen, Chuka would leave the LDs.

He has form and previous, right?

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

if it did happen there is enough love lost between him and the dangerous extremist in no 10 that he wouldn't even get a joke cabinet post, with peaked cap that says "capn dickhead" on it!

calzino, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

Pretty sure he wouldn’t be re-elected if he stood in Lambeth.

suzy, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

was reading Chuka blathering on about how many different centrist thinktanks he sits on advisory boards for like this reaffirms what a progressive person he is, without mentioning how much these fuckers pay him!

calzino, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

Centrist thinktank is like sitting around saying "everything's pretty much great, maybe up the racism a smidge"

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

“We regretfully engage in racism (but still want you to vote for us)”

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

twitter is now like turtles all the way down except its the aquaphibian

mark s, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

honestly how long does it take to count 300ish odd votes

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

Raab out, everyone else through

— James Forsyth (@JGForsyth) June 18, 2019

lol

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link


Boris Johnson - 126

Jeremy Hunt – 46

Michael Gove – 41

Dominic Raab – 30

Sajid Javid – 33

Rory Stewart – 37

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

Can't wait to see this clash of the titans that twitter dot com is salivating for as they send their new hero into the ring

stet, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

Going to make Corbyn-Smith look like Healey/Benn

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

Got Tears for Fears' "Raab World" stuck in my head now

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

rip big man, heaven needed a cuboid-headed dolt

at last "take away this raable" gag can shine

(it's still not funny)

mark s, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

xxp


All around me are familiar faces
Worn out places, worn out faces
Bright and early for their daily racists
Voting Bojo, voting Bojooooho
Their laughs are filling up the benches
No to Europe, no to Corbyn
Hide my head, I want to dab my sweat off
No NDA, please do fuck off
And I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad
The dreams in which I'm Thatcher are the best I've ever had
I find it hard to tell you, I find it hard to take
When people vote for Stewart it's a very very
Raab world, Raab world

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

*bows*

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

okay that's amazing

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

Yes, it is.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

OK, seeing as the false argument "Labour needs Leave seats therefore Labour needs Leave votes" is now one getting presented in Shadow Cabinet, let's have yet another go at highlighting the problems with it 1/? https://t.co/pybcN53hg5

— Rob Ford (@robfordmancs) June 19, 2019

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

Lol can't wait for John Mann to turn around his abstentions on a "the model has changed and it's telling me I won't lose my seat" reason.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

leaked cabinet briefing seemed level headed - not reading a robfordmancs thread sorry AF.

genuinely not sure what labour should do - if anything at this point, until a new tory leader is installed. no easy choices and I am particularly worried that a pivot to hard remain increases the risks of no deal

||||||||, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

rfm has book eater energy

||||||||, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

Words are your friend!

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Eat your words but don’t go hungry!

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

These Labour MPs from leave areas are really gonna listen to these big words:

This is the full letter from ⁦@UKLabour⁩ MPs in leave areas to ⁦@jeremycorbyn⁩ opposing a decisive shift to a referendum and remain pic.twitter.com/JI66YFXbiM

— iain watson (@iainjwatson) June 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

Jarvis, Kinnock, Mann... I think Labour could do with them losing their seats tbh

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

Jim Fitzpatrick is the MP for Poplar, which voted remain!

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

Maybe he's just really xenophobic

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link


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