Good stuff.
― Rolling Thunderdome Revue (PBKR), Sunday, 16 June 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
https://ew.com/tv/2019/07/17/mindhunter-season-2-photos-jonathan-groff-david-fincher/
― omar little, Thursday, 18 July 2019 05:31 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIazdDw4tao
― omar little, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
oooh i am excite
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
That guy whoever he is really looks like David Berkowitz
― nate woolls, Thursday, 1 August 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link
Manson (45 seconds in) looks spot-on.
― clemenza, Friday, 2 August 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
yeah the casting and make-up crews do amazing work on this show, that's an eerily manson-y manson they've conjured up there
― Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 August 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link
it's the same Manson as Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
― Number None, Friday, 2 August 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
that's a tough spot to get pigeonholed in
― Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 August 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link
Kinda want to rewatch S1 now.
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 2 August 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
Is that really the same Manson actor? The do-over looks much more accurate in Mindhunter (which is probably three or four years later, mind you, so not exactly the same look).
― clemenza, Friday, 2 August 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link
Just found a long Fincher conversation with Elvis Mitchell about the new season.
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 3 August 2019 03:59 (four years ago) link
more trailer action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHlJQCyqiaI
― omar little, Sunday, 11 August 2019 05:48 (four years ago) link
the guy playing Berkowitz in this is uncanny
― Number None, Saturday, 17 August 2019 05:32 (four years ago) link
New season’s pretty silly tbh. Several steps towards NBC Crime Show material.
― circa1916, Saturday, 17 August 2019 06:00 (four years ago) link
how could nbc crime show material be silly???????!?
https://66.media.tumblr.com/086559e8de27747195afe463d9b3cb89/tumblr_n54sw2HrA91t4ihqpo1_1280.jpg
― j., Saturday, 17 August 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link
Sorry, maybe I should’ve said CBS. Network TV crime show contrivances, anyway.
― circa1916, Saturday, 17 August 2019 06:12 (four years ago) link
Thought the ending of ep 1 was a bit ott, and the colour grading is *terrible*, otherwise I'm hooked again.
― The Pingularity (ledge), Saturday, 17 August 2019 07:06 (four years ago) link
I'm re-watching s1. Ep 2, the girlfriend uses the word 'mentionitis' which I'd be surprised if it was a term in the 70s?
― kinder, Saturday, 17 August 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
Season 2 starting off with Roxy Music. Yes please.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
the end credit tunes are great (and very expensive)
― Number None, Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
Tusk at the end of s2 e2, unfortunately that one’s always gonna belong to The Americans for me
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 18 August 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
1. the end credit tunes are great (and very expensive)
My interest in Season 2, considerable to start, just tripled.
2. I always want songs to surprise me, so I'm ducking out for good at this point. (That's on me--I always name specific songs in movies and TV shows when posting.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 August 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
decided to rewatch s1 first
i am having a GOOD TIME
― j., Sunday, 18 August 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link
I'm only 4 eps in but the filching of music from Americans is a bit on the nose - Tusk, Talking Heads "Overload", Roxy, Blondie. Cmon man.
Enjoying it so far though. Damon Herriman did a decent Manson for an Aussie (if y'all havent seen "Mr Inbetween" you really should check it out).
Prof lady's gay love sideplot feels a bit shoehorned in, I'm someone who will always be irritated by pointless sex/makeout/love/breakup scenes in shows though. I mean ok, her being gay and having to keep schtumm is important, but still.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 19 August 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link
Is it bad that I'm more concerned about Wendy being outed than I am about Bill's subplot, which I won't spoil for anyone not caught up?
A lot of that Manson dialogue was straight from his actual court speeches and later interviews, which I guess made it pretty easy. I was a little shocked to see the unredacted, actual Tate and LaBianca crime scene photos on-screen. The original publication of "Helter Skelter" had a lot of strategically-placed boxes over the photos, and when a later edition removed them there was a lot of controversy.
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Monday, 19 August 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
Does no-one else have a problem with the colour on this thing? Look at these fucking oompa loompas!
https://i.imgur.com/LqITHra.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/RUXrpP1.png
― The Pingularity (ledge), Monday, 19 August 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link
http://www.moriareviews.com/rongulator/wp-content/uploads/Element-of-Crime-1984-poster.jpg
― mark s, Monday, 19 August 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
A lot of that Manson dialogue was straight from his actual court speeches and later interviews
i think this is the case for most of the interviews
it was for Kemper in S1 anyway
― Number None, Monday, 19 August 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
don't go usin some speech figure!
― j., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link
Took me forever to twig that Kemper was also the guy who played Hazel in Umbrella Academy.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 04:08 (four years ago) link
which brain genius at netflix decided to keep the credit-skipper activated for all the expensive outro music
― j., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link
The interviews are all great but five or six episodes in, I have no idea what the central thrust of the storyline is.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 05:47 (four years ago) link
I guess it's just solving (or not) BTK and Atlanta.
The Guardian is not fooled:https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/aug/19/the-real-mindhunters-why-serial-killer-whisperers-do-more-harm-than-good
― The Pingularity (ledge), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 07:52 (four years ago) link
As Clark points out, plenty of people experience violence, rejection and trauma in their childhood, but don’t end up burying severed heads in the garden beneath their mother’s bedroom window. Instead, they have the strength of character to overcome.
I really don't think whether you end up being a serial killer is to do with "strength of character" lol
― Number None, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 08:34 (four years ago) link
there is a bit of dramatic nullity to them looking into btk when you know he gets away scot free until he sends a floppy disk to the police with metadata in the 00s
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link
The lack of a "thesis" or whatever doesn't really bug me. If anything I feel like the overriding theme of the show is that all that bloody-minded analysis and investigative work is 99% folly
― Simon H., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
i think the point of that (and a big theme of the season) is that all along these monsters are operating and there may not be any satisfying resolution in sight xp
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
xxp well, this season ends with their atlanta suspect being nabbed for 2/27 murders ~maybe~, and a title card noting that none of the child murders are closed by 2019, so that may be kind of a thing going on.
― j., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
and that was a thing in zodiac too obv
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
I know it's only 'based on' real events but the scene with the cross had me all [citation needed].
― The Pingularity (ledge), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
haha
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
The faux (I assume) archival footage cutting in there was amazing though, like Holden is trespassing on history
― Simon H., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
xp got conspicuously found-footage there for a sec or two
― j., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
the footage of the march would have been much more powerful without holden's keystone cops act, imo.
― The Pingularity (ledge), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
Sure, but out of place/theme in a season that's explicitly about the FBI's intrusive and ineffective methods generating further indignity
― Simon H., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
I found that whole "race to place the cross" scene really bizrre, tbrh. Maybe I missed the point.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 03:45 (four years ago) link
personally I took it as "Holden has given himself a self-important, symbolically-important-to-him task that is effectively worse than useless"
― Simon H., Wednesday, 21 August 2019 04:10 (four years ago) link
I feel like I watched a different season to a lot of the Twitter commentariat. I liked this one way better than the first - no lionization of FBI tactics, replaced instead by a clear indictment of just how untethered from reality their methods are, and just how tone-deaf and worse analytically inclined obsessives like Holden are in the face of systemic problems. The fact that Carr and Tench are so manifestly incapable of dealing with their personal lives despite their supposed perceptive gifts and/or training helps to underline this. Also, I thought this season did a great job of giving the middle finger to MFM-style obsessives who laugh off the human toll, while simultaneously acknowledging just how infectious these narratives can be (Holden's glee at getting to interview Manson for example).
(Also, McCallany is fantastic so the increased focus on Tench over Ford was a huge plus for me.)
― Simon H., Wednesday, 21 August 2019 04:16 (four years ago) link
just finished this and yeah my first thought was how this ends on the exact same note as zodiac. which, if you're gonna copy...that's a good thing to copy.
I really enjoyed this a LOT, despite a bit of impatience with some of the "domestic" storylines...which felt a little too patly reflective of their work.
― ryan, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 04:23 (four years ago) link