London ILB - FAP?

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You're gonna need a smaller hard drive.

Tim, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:54 (three months ago) link

Everybody else ok with the 4th?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:16 (three months ago) link

it's my mum's 84th birthday so it's good not bad

mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:18 (three months ago) link

Not a substitute for anyone else's FAP but a Royal Oak note: I am going for a birthday pint there this Friday 21st June. Please join us.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:18 (two months ago) link

Still on for Thursday?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2019 09:49 (two months ago) link

I'm in!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:05 (two months ago) link

I am also.

Tim, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:05 (two months ago) link

Oh yeah could you bring your copy of "The Unseen"?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:17 (two months ago) link

I could and will.

Tim, Monday, 1 July 2019 11:16 (two months ago) link

i am also in

this time i will arrive with enthusiastic editor's tales of a very different underground: less hawkwind, more soundsystem-rave-dubstep -- the 'nuum!! hola! (i hate that half-word so much lol)

with important crossover figure youth of killing joke allowing us to posit that dave brock invented hip house

mark s, Monday, 1 July 2019 12:02 (two months ago) link

I doubt I'll make this, my (older) sister's down in London because she's going to see Rammstein in Milton Keynes (no, seriously) so I'll probably have to keep her entertained.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2019 12:30 (two months ago) link

I would like to attend this FAP but will definitely not make it till 8pm, perhaps later.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:01 (two months ago) link

This is good see you then.

Tom D - bring your sister along I am sure we can all entertain.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:09 (two months ago) link

ILB cosplaying RAMMSTEIN:

mark s, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:18 (two months ago) link

Might be able to come to this after all, my sister's had to delay her trip for a couple of days because she's suffering from severe migraines at the moment - which hopefully should have cleared up by the weekend because I, for one, wouldn't fancy going to a Rammstein gig with a migraine.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:27 (two months ago) link

Aiming for six or earlier

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 13:15 (two months ago) link

Amid almost total disagreement about the LRB last night, we did not mention Andrew O'Hagan who is back in the current issue.

Does anyone agree that he is a bad, very affected writer?

the pinefox, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:36 (two months ago) link

Was it him who did that awful Grenfell piece?

gyac, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:40 (two months ago) link

My favourite moment of a very pleasant evening was when we realised that "The Last Samurai" was DEFINITELY named as a pun on "The Last of the Summer Wine".

Tim, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:49 (two months ago) link

gyac: yes it was.

I was just reading his article on Lillian Ross, full of pretentious gossip about whom he knew (half of the names are nobodies and / or he doesn't properly explain them).

the pinefox, Friday, 5 July 2019 13:56 (two months ago) link

Despise O'Hagan, he has nothing to offer.

So this was very enjoyable (and thank you Tim for lending me yer book) apart from the pie at Royal Oak. No game anymore and standards have sorta slipped now :-(

Hope to see everyone again in autumn - enjoy the summer!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:52 (two months ago) link

xyzzzz and I finally agree on something: changes in Royal Oak cuisine.

the pinefox, Friday, 5 July 2019 16:07 (two months ago) link

I have at last read the whole of this issue - even the two terrible poems.

I guess I didn't enjoy it that much after all.

the pinefox, Sunday, 7 July 2019 12:03 (two months ago) link

perhaps for somewhat perverse reasons, i quite enjoyed the lillian ross piece -- it's sent me back to brendan gill's "here at the new yorker". i will write reasons and perversity and gill and maybe ohagan up on the LRB thread when i am no longer ill, also ditto wordsworth's fun

(i am no longer ill today in the sense of being i think virus-free at last but i am still very tired and last night was the first thing close to a normal night's sleep since tuesday)

(i ahev not read the poems and think it quite unlikely i ever will, i feel bad about this habit but it is now decades embedded and i'm guessing unshakeable)

mark s, Sunday, 7 July 2019 12:10 (two months ago) link

Mark yes it is fair to say that though O'Hagan is bad, the review is not unreadable and has a kind of fun element.

I suppose part of the irritation though is the patent obviousness with which O'H attached himself to a certain world that he admired, and then the way that he (often) writes about it - a kind of (non-comic) pastiche of the original; trying to be Didion, or whoever.

If you think of say a Paul Morley encountering a scene, he wouldn't write in a lame pastiche of its manner but would encounter it with his own style.

Unless it was for a book on rock press history in which case he wouldn't write it?

The poems really are bad.

the pinefox, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:06 (two months ago) link

yes i don't disagree with that -- abt the attachment i mean. i haven't written this up yet bcz i've been apply for a job by telling the publication start-up i'm applying to that their underlying philosophy is probably bad (i have no idea what it is) and so they should feel bad

semi-unrelatedly i just sent the LRB a snarky email re LR and AO'H pointing out that what in fact transformed the unpleasant qualities he admires in her into tremendous journalism was the involvement in her work (or threat of involvement hovering behind it) of the new yorker's fact-checking department, at-that-time world-leading

(but expressed a lot more directly, in case lanchester is lurking)

mark s, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:22 (two months ago) link

written up here: Book Reviews? LRB vs the failing New York Review of Books vs ... ?

mark s, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:07 (two months ago) link

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