London ILB - FAP?

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You're gonna need a smaller hard drive.

Tim, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:54 (eight months ago) link

Everybody else ok with the 4th?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:16 (eight months ago) link

it's my mum's 84th birthday so it's good not bad

mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:18 (eight months ago) link

Not a substitute for anyone else's FAP but a Royal Oak note: I am going for a birthday pint there this Friday 21st June. Please join us.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:18 (eight months ago) link

Still on for Thursday?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2019 09:49 (seven months ago) link

I'm in!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:05 (seven months ago) link

I am also.

Tim, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:05 (seven months ago) link

Oh yeah could you bring your copy of "The Unseen"?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:17 (seven months ago) link

I could and will.

Tim, Monday, 1 July 2019 11:16 (seven months ago) link

i am also in

this time i will arrive with enthusiastic editor's tales of a very different underground: less hawkwind, more soundsystem-rave-dubstep -- the 'nuum!! hola! (i hate that half-word so much lol)

with important crossover figure youth of killing joke allowing us to posit that dave brock invented hip house

mark s, Monday, 1 July 2019 12:02 (seven months ago) link

I doubt I'll make this, my (older) sister's down in London because she's going to see Rammstein in Milton Keynes (no, seriously) so I'll probably have to keep her entertained.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2019 12:30 (seven months ago) link

I would like to attend this FAP but will definitely not make it till 8pm, perhaps later.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:01 (seven months ago) link

This is good see you then.

Tom D - bring your sister along I am sure we can all entertain.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:09 (seven months ago) link

ILB cosplaying RAMMSTEIN:

mark s, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:18 (seven months ago) link

Might be able to come to this after all, my sister's had to delay her trip for a couple of days because she's suffering from severe migraines at the moment - which hopefully should have cleared up by the weekend because I, for one, wouldn't fancy going to a Rammstein gig with a migraine.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:27 (seven months ago) link

Aiming for six or earlier

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 13:15 (seven months ago) link

Amid almost total disagreement about the LRB last night, we did not mention Andrew O'Hagan who is back in the current issue.

Does anyone agree that he is a bad, very affected writer?

the pinefox, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:36 (seven months ago) link

Was it him who did that awful Grenfell piece?

gyac, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:40 (seven months ago) link

My favourite moment of a very pleasant evening was when we realised that "The Last Samurai" was DEFINITELY named as a pun on "The Last of the Summer Wine".

Tim, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:49 (seven months ago) link

gyac: yes it was.

I was just reading his article on Lillian Ross, full of pretentious gossip about whom he knew (half of the names are nobodies and / or he doesn't properly explain them).

the pinefox, Friday, 5 July 2019 13:56 (seven months ago) link

Despise O'Hagan, he has nothing to offer.

So this was very enjoyable (and thank you Tim for lending me yer book) apart from the pie at Royal Oak. No game anymore and standards have sorta slipped now :-(

Hope to see everyone again in autumn - enjoy the summer!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:52 (seven months ago) link

xyzzzz and I finally agree on something: changes in Royal Oak cuisine.

the pinefox, Friday, 5 July 2019 16:07 (seven months ago) link

I have at last read the whole of this issue - even the two terrible poems.

I guess I didn't enjoy it that much after all.

the pinefox, Sunday, 7 July 2019 12:03 (seven months ago) link

perhaps for somewhat perverse reasons, i quite enjoyed the lillian ross piece -- it's sent me back to brendan gill's "here at the new yorker". i will write reasons and perversity and gill and maybe ohagan up on the LRB thread when i am no longer ill, also ditto wordsworth's fun

(i am no longer ill today in the sense of being i think virus-free at last but i am still very tired and last night was the first thing close to a normal night's sleep since tuesday)

(i ahev not read the poems and think it quite unlikely i ever will, i feel bad about this habit but it is now decades embedded and i'm guessing unshakeable)

mark s, Sunday, 7 July 2019 12:10 (seven months ago) link

Mark yes it is fair to say that though O'Hagan is bad, the review is not unreadable and has a kind of fun element.

I suppose part of the irritation though is the patent obviousness with which O'H attached himself to a certain world that he admired, and then the way that he (often) writes about it - a kind of (non-comic) pastiche of the original; trying to be Didion, or whoever.

If you think of say a Paul Morley encountering a scene, he wouldn't write in a lame pastiche of its manner but would encounter it with his own style.

Unless it was for a book on rock press history in which case he wouldn't write it?

The poems really are bad.

the pinefox, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:06 (seven months ago) link

yes i don't disagree with that -- abt the attachment i mean. i haven't written this up yet bcz i've been apply for a job by telling the publication start-up i'm applying to that their underlying philosophy is probably bad (i have no idea what it is) and so they should feel bad

semi-unrelatedly i just sent the LRB a snarky email re LR and AO'H pointing out that what in fact transformed the unpleasant qualities he admires in her into tremendous journalism was the involvement in her work (or threat of involvement hovering behind it) of the new yorker's fact-checking department, at-that-time world-leading

(but expressed a lot more directly, in case lanchester is lurking)

mark s, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:22 (seven months ago) link

written up here: Book Reviews? LRB vs the failing New York Review of Books vs ... ?

mark s, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:07 (seven months ago) link

four months pass...

Just wanted to float this idea...FAP on Dec 12th?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2019 11:19 (two months ago) link


xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2019 11:20 (two months ago) link

Bad idea I think - surely we'll either be out knocking on doors or getting home for 10pm exit polls?

the pinefox, Sunday, 1 December 2019 14:38 (two months ago) link

i’ll be in f’ing australia *again* as i was for the f’ing referendum. actually i might be in the air on the way back tbh. i’ll be getting absolutely shitted on the plane i can tell you that.

Fizzles, Sunday, 1 December 2019 14:47 (two months ago) link

Bad idea I think - surely we'll either be out knocking on doors or getting home for 10pm exit polls?

― the pinefox, Sunday, 1 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

The reason for this is I wanted to keep drinking through the exit polls and pretty much (for me at the least) all my door knocking will be done (might do it on the day but reckon I'll be ready for a drink by 7).

Also we did have an ILB FAP on the referendum back in 2016 lol

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 December 2019 15:48 (two months ago) link

Hey, some of us are always in f'ing australia

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:18 (two months ago) link

Hey, some of us are always in f'ing australia

― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:18 bookmarkflaglink

ah man tell me about it. thing is i just can't abide the place. everyone seems really rules obsessed, boorish sports masculinity, racist, vile and totally dysfunctional politics (yes i know), tolerates a load of shitty identity oppression in the name of 'plain speaking/straight talking'. fascism in paradise.

but i love the nature, the sense of interior - as close to a psychological space physically rendered as you can get, gerald murnane, adelaide cricket ground, the friends i have out there, you and your bloody books, james (i often think of this - FAP!), the sense of apac culture, sydney harbour as a geographical space etc.

Basically i just wish western man had never discovered it (i use 'man' advisedly - aus seems a supremely masculine culture).

Fizzles, Thursday, 5 December 2019 20:51 (two months ago) link

an almost NZ obsession with fucking coffee. what lack are you making up for u c'ts.

Fizzles, Thursday, 5 December 2019 20:52 (two months ago) link

As someone has said, we're a nation of narcs who like to think of ourselves as relaxed anti-authoritarians.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 9 December 2019 01:26 (two months ago) link

well, i'm flying back now, but i've had a decent enough time swimming in the sea and the taste of ash in my mouth or walking round in a Sydney bonfire. I feel a bit repentant about my intemperate words. As usual here, the people I encounter professionally are impressive and likable, while the more social side is a bit rubbish, a reverse of my experience in the UK.

I'm besotted by Gerald Murnane - bought three of his books on Sunday, during which process, a woman stared, frozen at me, and said 'you've got a spider on your lip'. I also froze, and then she said 'It's gone down the inside of your shirt'. Cue something of a frightened untucking dance in the bookshop. I mean, I suspect the number of harmless spiders in Aus is the same as the UK, but equally there are some right little shits out here as well and fucked if I know the difference.

Fuck tho this country loves its coffees, cars, smashed avocado breakfasts and its dysfunctionally see-sawing relationship with alkyhol.

Fizzles, Thursday, 12 December 2019 04:48 (two months ago) link

Am mildly regretting this not happening tonight (and now I have other plans, at least early evening plans). Good luck everyone.

Tim, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:14 (two months ago) link

I'll be watching the Celtic v Cluj game then plan on getting blootered later.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:33 (two months ago) link

Signed for crappy gym yoga class then drinking in a local with no TV. That's how I make my own luck.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:14 (two months ago) link

Which local? Just a chance I might be able to swing by later.

Tim, Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:23 (two months ago) link

Hiya in the half moon from about 9pm. Just planning to drink through the exit poll..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:17 (two months ago) link

We’ll be there in a bit but don’t worry if you’re inclined to slink off.

Tim, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:32 (two months ago) link

Nah just here

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:32 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Shall we do this soon. First week of Feb?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:47 (four weeks ago) link

sounds good to me :)

mark s, Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:47 (four weeks ago) link

6th at the usual place.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:48 (four weeks ago) link

of course getting there since TFL rerouted the 48 is now a minor chore (2 x buses instead of 1)

mark s, Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:50 (four weeks ago) link

not good for me >:(

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:01 (four weeks ago) link

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