no, i didn't know that the June 2019 US Politics thread was nasty

This fucking guy
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/id-exclusive-interview-trump-listen-foreigners-offered-dirt/story?id=63669304

Russian if you’re listening it’s all good ! Stop by anytime

Wouldn’t this be enough to start impeachment? He just stated his willingness to cheat in 2020.

you would think so

or are we instead going to normalize it

He really could shoot someone on 5th ave, because he can’t be accused of a crime while he’s president because a sitting president can’t be indicted because we’re all fucking stupid and also it’s not fair to accuse someone of a crime who can’t defend themselves in court, and impeachment isn’t an option because republicans are mean and unfair

Why are his finances still a “black box” four years after he became a problem?

Is there already a house bill to allow for the indictment of sitting presidents? House dems should pass that so we can all scream at McConnell when he refuses to bring it to a vote for some mysterious reason

There is so much about this situation that is just bizarre. His charity was shut down for self dealing, we’ve seen a few extremely weird and suspicious tax returns, but the full story of where his financing comes from is not known.

This piece lays out the problems well.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/swamp-chronicles/is-fraud-part-of-the-trump-organizations-business-model

It is becoming increasingly clear that, in the language of business schools, the Trump Organization’s core competency is in profiting from misrepresentation and deceit and, potentially, fraud. There are many ways to make money in real estate. The normal way is to identify a need in the market, raise money by convincing lenders or investors that your plan is sound, build the structure, then either profit through ongoing rent or by selling units. The key variables in such a business are what is known as product-market fit—the accuracy with which a developer understands the housing or commercial needs of a place—and the ability to execute well by keeping costs down without sacrificing the right level of quality. Perhaps more than anything, practitioners of a successful real-estate business obsessively focus on maintaining the ability to borrow money cheaply. The profit on many real-estate projects often comes down to simple math: the cheaper you can borrow money to build, the more money you make. The more trustworthy you are, through a long period of successful projects, the less interest banks will demand on their loans, so the more profit you can make, and the more successful you will be.

Rather famously, Trump overinvested in luxury housing, spent too much on his casinos, and completely blew his brief foray into a regional airline. Far worse, Trump did the very opposite of insuring a long record of fiscal prudence that would allow him to borrow money cheaply. Despite the company’s mixed record, it has survived and grown. It’s doing something well, so what is it?

I would think by now journalists would have formed a clear picture of who trump is and where his money comes from but apparently not. It’s all still speculative—he’s never been hit with the kinds of financial crimes that took down his associates even though something is obviously not right with this business.

The obstruction stuff is important mostly because it is indicative of his character. His instinct is to stall and hide things from law enforcement. Why? Who is he and why is he president?

In a key passage, Bannon is reported as saying he believes investigations of Donald Trump’s financial history will provide proof of the underlying criminality of his eponymous company.
Assessing the president’s exposure to various investigations, many seeded by the special counsel Robert Mueller during his investigation of Russian election interference, Wolff writes: “Trump was vulnerable because for 40 years he had run what increasingly seemed to resemble a semi-criminal enterprise.”
He then quotes Bannon as saying: “I think we can drop the ‘semi’ part.”

Not that stephen k bannon is a reliable source but i don’t understand why we’re still in the realm of rumor and insinuation in this department. We should know by now whether this description holds water.

That’s what was disappointing about mueller—he only answered this very narrow range of questions when the expansiveness of his investigation suggested we’d learn somethinf

I’m out now. Sorry

agree with it all

Treeship otm

Who is he and why is he president?

July thread title obviously

the confidence in supercop Mueller never fails to amuse

he's a fuckin fed, they always save us

“the”

That’s what was disappointing about mueller—he only answered this very narrow range of questions when the expansiveness of his investigation suggested we’d learn somethinf

the other investigations he passed the stuff he learned on to, are they still ongoing?

That’s what they say. It still seems weird how little we know about the Trump organziation, given wall to wall Mueller and Trump scandal coverage for two years.

I never had confidenr in Mueller as a “supercop.” But I think the weary cynicism in regard to Trump is bizarre. He doesn’t act like any other politician and there is a lot we still don’t know about him.

If the Elaine Chao scandals stick to her do they automatically reduce the status of her husband?

they will not stick

would like to hold onto the idea that overt corruption would be something that might be punished not swept under the carpet however that's done. & that does sound like it is something that does involve both partners in that venal couple.
Would just be really convenient if the evil one was taken out of the picture by the exposure of his wife's venality.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/I_Like_Dreamin%27_-_K._Nolan.jpg

If trump started imprisoning his politcal enemies would you guys just throw up your hands and say “that’s how it is!” and “toldja!” You’re like frogs in a pot.

Mitch is not allowed to use the department of transportation as a source of funding for his political supporters. The House can investigate.

What would you like us to do treeship?

Not make jokes about how minimal accountability is “dreaming”

Are you new here?

You can call and email your congressman like I did every day from January to August 2017.

sooner or later people are gonna have to start start throwing things

isn't that what posting on a message board is

that’s what radiohead polls are for

Did you get any replies from your congressman, Alfred?

My congressman was the ousted Carlos Curbelo. His office people were kind, recognizing me after a while. He represented a Clinton deep blue district, so he had lots of wiggle room.

I’m the proud daughter of Mexican immigrants and a human rights lawyer.

I’m running to take on Trump’s favorite Democrat, @RepCuellar.

It's time for South Texas to have a real Democrat who will fight for la gente, not corporate donors.

Join us: https://t.co/BcsWSFTX0c pic.twitter.com/2GVdu6hZYs

— Jessica Cisneros for Congress (@JCisnerosTX) June 13, 2019

hey yall, on of the worst dems in the congress is getting primaried! rep cuellar is a stooge for the oil industry bc FRACKIN JOBS.

sooner or later people are gonna have to start start throwing things

― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII)

At least 24 officers injured in Memphis unrest after U.S. Marshals fatally shoot young black man

unfortunately no one pays attention until white ppl are doing throwing

So what you're saying is "get woke, St Louis Blues fans"

nothing's going to change until every hockey fan reads the mueller report

http://www.pajiba.com/assets_c/2018/08/MuellerHockey-thumb-700xauto-201135.jpg

http://www.pajiba.com/assets_c/2018/08/MuellerHockey-thumb-700xauto-201135.jpg

Wow. The Office of Special Counsel finds that @KellyannePolls repeatedly violated the Hatch Act and **is recommending her removal from federal service.** pic.twitter.com/LMC258AF7g

— Alex Mallin (@alex_mallin) June 13, 2019

Nearly a year after Rep. Duncan Hunter suggested his wife was to blame for their indictment over the alleged misuse of $250,000 in campaign funds, Margaret Hunter headed to court to change her not guilty plea, which could pave the way for her to testify. https://t.co/HOz27ukfzq

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) June 13, 2019

Sadly, Conway is correct in her assessment that there’s no way the hatch act is going to affect her.

Official White House response:

*jerking-off gesture*

yup

This has inspired me to design a "jerking-off gesture" emoji, which journalists can just post in lieu of transcribing Trump's or his henchmen's answers to their questions:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D89bf5eXsAAnchK.jpg

the worst punishment for kellyanne in this matter is a sideways move to a superpac where she'll get paid 10x as much and still be on tv and in contact with the president in the exact same amounts