Origins of the faux-naif bloggy voice?

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Twitticisms wear me out.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

that "buckle up twitter" piece was so great to read, that style of writing is like nails on a chalkboard for me

i do enjoy twitter threads when they're written by actual historians, scientists, et al, in a calm and non-strident and thoughtful way

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

yeah it feels like there’s a tonal overlap between say sarah taber’s undoubtedly informed and informatively detailed agri-science threads and this style.

feels like people will imitate that style even where hard knowledge isn’t present. that does suggest a problem with the original tone. i note in that sarah taber thread: “Notice anything in common there?” and “That's why we call these areas "scrub".” both of which have that manner.

I think the “that’s why we” is significant. she means agri-science academics and professional agriculture inspectors. but the implication is “do you want to be a member of our knowledge club?”. that can be easily imitated without any knowledge.

the whole tone is one of “schooling” people.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

What I also took away from that piece was the author’s dad seemed cool

omar little, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

Those types of “schooling” Twitter threads as a means of replacing a true deep dive into a new area of knowledge are to me the equivalent of those dumb fast speed, “camera pointed down” cooking videos of garbage food hacks for millennials I always see on Facebook and elsewhere.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

i feel like a lot of people just aren't very good writers or particularly intelligent, and they don't compensate for these problems by doing a bunch of research. In the past, most of these people did not give the public the "benefit" of their voices. So, in a way, it's good, that more people have an outlet and can be heard. However, it's also like having to listen to the music of everyone who wants to be in a band.

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

buckle up seems to be an extension of vox-explainer voice. imho its a "we are the voice of facts and reason" sorta reaction to the current administration w/ a smug "serious people" vibe.

Hakim Bae's TMZ (s.clover), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

What ever happened to ironic quotation marks? Bloggers in the 2000s used to, like Derrida, write "under erasure" all the time, distancing themselves from concepts they mistrusted, or that they felt had a suspect provenance, or whatever. I believe I used to do this, but stopped for some reason. Others seem to have done this too.

Do people have less of an appetite for deconstruction than they once did?

treeship., Saturday, 13 March 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

I still do this. Old habits die hard.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 March 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

Possibly replaced by Ironic Capitalization

JRN, Sunday, 14 March 2021 03:28 (three years ago) link

ironic capitalization is Different imo

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 March 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

Or maybe it isn’t! But that’s fine.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 March 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link

Also voted puttanesca

And here’s why

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 March 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link

Omg lol that also contained my vote on the sauce poll. I did vote puttanesca but it ruined my joke

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 March 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

idk i think it actually got even funnier

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 14 March 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

one weird trick to make your pasta bloggier... and that's okay

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 March 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

i think i decided at some point that all concepts are contentious so there was no point singling only some of them out with punctuation

scamp til you're damp (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 March 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

True, true, but sometimes you need 'em for that extra 'do u see???' oomph.

pomenitul, Sunday, 14 March 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link

The schooling voice seems precisely designed as a mighty weapon capable of clearing great swathes of open but infertile space. This tone shall not be policed because this tone goes to 11. Seems natural after an age of equivocation shaming (resisting urge to add a question mark there) - sub-thought - typing on phones now, with increasingly aggressive autocorrect, is making affected type/speech an actual effort.

Kim, Sunday, 14 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

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G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 March 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link

I wonder if part of the faux-naif bloggy voice is a reaction against the impenetrable academic voice that many of us were trained to use. People don't get taught in school how to write about specialized subjects in a straightforward, accessible, informal way, and if most of the nonfiction writing you've been doing is in the form of academic essays, it probably helps to have this standard blogging voice that signals, "I am chatting with a lay audience" that you can jump into.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 14 March 2021 22:37 (three years ago) link

the voice that drives me batty is the twitter hipster voice, it's predictable and repetitive and dull and yet speakers of this deeply unarcane tongue think it suffices as a shield to say the most outrageously callous dumbfuckery

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 March 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

one dril is enough is how i break it down to an extent and everyone else is doing the updated version of quoting austin powers all the time

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 March 2021 23:35 (three years ago) link

Origins of the faux-naif bloggy voice? It's complicated.

Darin, Sunday, 14 March 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

what is the shared genealogy of this and american podcast voice?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 March 2021 00:10 (three years ago) link

Did anyone ever cite an actual example of this voice?

(I just read down the thread and couldn't really find one.)

the pinefox, Monday, 15 March 2021 10:05 (three years ago) link

We need to talk about the faux-naif bloggy voice

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Monday, 15 March 2021 12:15 (three years ago) link

i feel like The Awl, as much as i loved it, was an early purveyor

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 March 2021 12:23 (three years ago) link

Origins of the faux-naif voice? This blogger has Thoughts.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 15 March 2021 13:03 (three years ago) link


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