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All of you who frequent this thread have to see Echo in the Canyon, a documentary on L.A. bands of the mid-'60s (but melded with newer performers being interviewed and covering famous songs). The end-credit sequence is one of the best and funniest things I've seen this year.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link

In a concert at the Albert Hall in London on October 29, 1970,[2] Joni Mitchell, who was already friends with Young by the time he wrote this song, opened her song "Circle Game" with this speech:

Mitchell: "In 1965 I was up in Canada, and there was a friend of mine up there who had just left a rock'n'roll band (...) he had just newly turned 21, and that meant he was no longer allowed into his favourite haunt, which was kind of a teeny-bopper club and once you're over 21 you couldn't get back in there anymore; so he was really feeling terrible because his girlfriends and everybody that he wanted to hang out with, his band could still go there, you know, but it's one of the things that drove him to become a folk singer was that he couldn't play in this club anymore. 'Cause he was over the hill. (...) So he wrote this song that was called "Oh to live on sugar mountain" which was a lament for his lost youth. (...) And I thought, God, you know, if we get to 21 and there's nothing after that, that's a pretty bleak future, so I wrote a song for him, and for myself just to give me some hope. It's called The Circle Game."[3]

On the bootleg album Live on Sugar Mountain, released just days after the concert at which it was recorded (on February 1, 1971, at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in Los Angeles), Young talks at length about the lyrics. He says that when he first wrote the song, he

"wrote 126 verses to it. Now, you can imagine that I had a lot of trouble figuring out what four verses to use... I was underneath the stairs... Anyway, this verse that I wrote... It was the worst verse of the 126 that I wrote. So, I decided to put it in the song, to just to give everybody a frame of reference as to, you know, what can happen. What I'm trying to say here, by stopping in the middle of the song, and explaining this to you, is that... I think it's one of the lamest verses I ever wrote. And it takes a lotta nerve for me to get up here and sing it in front of you people. But, if when I'm finished singing, you sing the chorus 'Sugar Mountain' super loud, I'll just forget about it right away and we can continue."

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

Next Archives Release: The Other 122 Verses Of "Sugar Mountain"

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

Neil definitely the artist who makes you feel you own a dozen copies of the same live album

Duke, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

I like Tuscaloosa quite a bit, but it seems odd that there's so much Harvest material on it -- wasn't this the tour where Neil supposedly refused to play the hits, and just played the new stuff loudly with the Stray Gators?

Also, there's a loud/popping bass drum thing happening in a couple of the songs that is distracting me far more than it should.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

basically a myth that he wasn't playing "hits" on that tour — setlists are fairly fan friendly overall, with the spikier Time Fades Away material sprinkled throughout.
the tonight's the night tour later that year in england was much more confrontational, with neil playing the entire album straight through during the opening sets.

tylerw, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

this is a pretty representative setlist, about half new stuff, half familiar faves. maybe not totally what people expected, but not a totally radical approach.

1973-01-15, Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
w/ The Stray Gators
On The Way Home / Tell Me Why / L.A. / Journey Through The Past / Borrowed Tune / Out On The Weekend / Harvest / Old Man / Heart Of Gold / Come Along And Say You Will / Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere / Time Fades Away / New Mama / Alabama / Last Dance / Don't Be Denied / Cinnamon Girl / Lookout Joe / Southern Man / Are You Ready For The Country?

tylerw, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

i would be more than happy to buy a ticket for that

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 June 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

I wish Tuscaloosa was a whole show. That's my only issue with it - you can feel the truncation.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 June 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

basically a myth that he wasn't playing "hits" on that tour — setlists are fairly fan friendly overall, with the spikier Time Fades Away material sprinkled throughout.

Yeah, I figured there must've been some mythmaking afoot. Are there pro recordings of the UK tour?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 17 June 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

All of you who frequent this thread have to see Echo in the Canyon, a documentary on L.A. bands of the mid-'60s (but melded with newer performers being interviewed and covering famous songs). The end-credit sequence is one of the best and funniest things I've seen this year.

― clemenza, Wednesday, June 12, 2019 7:36 AM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Haha yeah I saw this over the weekend. Neil shreds!

J. Sam, Monday, 17 June 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

XP I believe the only pro TTN tour tapes are the Roxy shows.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

isn't there the bootleg from the UK? or is that after

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 June 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

Yeah, there are bootlegs from audience tapes.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

that one is way more edgy than the roxy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 June 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

just posted one of the better audience tapes from the english TTN tour: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/185588492977/neil-young-crazy-horse-rainbow-theatre

tylerw, Monday, 17 June 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

oh man that's sad, Neil must be gutted

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 22 June 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

Damn yeah that is huge. RIP.

tylerw, Saturday, 22 June 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

Honest question: as unpredictable and erratic as Neil Young has been with Roberts at the helm, I wonder what we can expect from Neil in the coming years, especially as he gets older?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

Oh no, the Archives release schedule will be all chaotic now

StanM, Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXpost thanks Joni, but somehow I've never found "The Circle Game" to be a cheer-up song---especially not when I hear all the sad Boomers singing along with her on that live version, from Miles of Aisles maybe (staple/filler on Collegetown radio still). Maybe it's cheering to some to be sad together, resigned to be passengers doing time.

dow, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

i think "there'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty" is the key line there

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

But the chorus seems to counter that

dow, Thursday, 27 June 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link

Neil's got a PONO memoir out soon.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 June 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link

He got PONO sideburns

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 June 2019 01:01 (four years ago) link

Gonna get a PONO haircut

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 June 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRBUAkOOMYE

budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjsk9IQj0k

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

On a huuuge Neil Young kick these days after years of not really caring - mea culpa - and kicking myself for missing him here in Amsterdam just a few nights ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCpquw6jdrE

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Yeah, right on, man, fuck a Crazy Horse tour, what I want is 15 Neil Young movies.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link

(Cries Crazy Horse tears)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

13 of those movies will only be available on Neil's streaming video service, VOYO

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 August 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link

but whats the over/under on how many will actually be finished in the next 8 years? 3?

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 1 August 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link

dunno if you can postpone a tour that was never even announced in the first place.
those films would be cool, I guess ... especially the Boarding House stuff (which is 1978 not 1977, Neil, come on now).

and hey here's a look at side one of COLORADO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA0S-nlWwAUl1qf?format=jpg&name=large

tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

also in re: to the films, would be great if neil just put them up permanently on the NYA site, as opposed to having them appear for a lame 24-hr window and then disappearing again.

tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

I miss everything on that site!
Really irritating

13:36 long song...hell yeah give it to me

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 August 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

he played "she showed me love" with promise of the real last month — pretty bad lyrics, but the jams are good.

tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

how bad on a scale of 1 to 5 hip hop haircuts

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 August 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

gonna give it a 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvQYM4WnzYU

tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/8/9/monsanto_fusion_center_surveillance_of_critics

...Monsanto ran a “fusion center” to surveil and discredit journalists and activists who criticized or wrote damning reports about Monsanto, as well as legendary singer-songwriter Neil Young, who released an album in 2015 called “The Monsanto Years.” Monsanto monitored Young’s Twitter activity and even analyzed the lyrics of his album.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 August 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link

"Sir, in order to analyze Mr. Young's lyrics we're going to need to purchase large quantities of the strongest marijuana available ... in order to 'get in his head.'"

nickn, Friday, 9 August 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

"Sir, we've found some blatant misinformation in Young's music. His hometown was not in North Ontario after all"

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 August 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link

Wow so they read his twitter and the lyrics to the album?

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 9 August 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link

can’t believe monsanto killed the pono, smdh

Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 August 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link

Lol

If the fidelity got too high, ppl might have been able to hear jthe Truth

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 9 August 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link

Monsanto ceased their investigation when they gave up trying to navigate the Archives website.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 August 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link


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