Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/12/741817/-Obama-on-DOMA:-He-IS-Keeping-A-Promise

vs

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/what-was-obama-thinking.html

Dan Savage calls for civil disobedience. I'm almost ready to join him.

Go for broke, I figure.

Still mad at Savage for his scapegoating black people in the wake of Prop 8.

Gays too busy mourning MJ to be pissed off about this?

Why would gays be pissed off by the Vice-President pledging to push harder on issues that affect them?

cuz they'd been talking for months about how they were going to boycott this event and make a big stink at it about Obama's lack of action?

from all the talk previously this was shaping up to be a PR nightmare for Obama, but now its completely buried

50 of them did protest and called gay representatives "gay Uncle Toms" (which kind of points up how ppl should really read source material and not just be lazy parrots but that's another argument)

called gay representatives "gay Uncle Toms"

wow, I'm sure these people have the best of intentions but they really can go fuck themselves

right there with you on that

ppl should really read source material

I know, right? Uncle Tom was totally gay.

'Gay Excorcism'

called gay representatives "gay Uncle Toms"

lolz was "house homos" already taken

just view it like the 100% wrong use of "immaculate conception" for "virgin birth"

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/08/massachusetts-takes-aim-at-federal-definition-of-marriage/#more-59669

DC, WE TAKIN OVER

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050501618.html

DADT to be taken up by Senate committees this fall

Maggie Gallagher, I love you:

The Borg Blinks [Maggie Gallagher]

In "The Carrie Effect," I point out that gay-marriage advocates are like the Borg. Resistance is futile.

LA Times interviews Ted Olson about gay marriage.

Clinton has "changed his mind" about gay marriage and is now no longer against it. Gee thanks a lot douchebag.

Way to put your figer to the wind, there, Bill.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20091104/pl_cq_politics/politics3239042

really, really disheartening

On the other hand, it wasn't exactly a landslide.

I feel a sense of regional shame that New England is viewed as the most receptive area of the country to gay couples and not, oh, CALIFORNIA. wtf

wtf is wrong with people?

This one's been making the rounds and is very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2nsGtd7y3c

I feel a sense of regional shame that New England is viewed as the most receptive area of the country to gay couples and not, oh, CALIFORNIA. wtf

I think this is really a misnomer, as disappointed as I was by the results on Prop 8.

The Bay Area - alright, probably pretty receptive to gay rights.

But where else? Los Angeles, with its HUGE conservative Latino population? San Diego? The Central Valley? The Central Coast? Up North?

None of these areas are very politically liberal when it comes to social issues.

really surprised by this...

Yes! You and your god have won! Hooray!

http://i.imgur.com/FDFx2.jpg

Fucking retards.

smh

So that old lady who's kneeling in thanksgiving, we're pretty much just waiting for her and her kind to die, right?

I realize she's someone's mother, sister, but personally, I hope that day is soon.

So angry.

However!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/us/04washington.html

the maine vote by far the most disappointing result of yesterday's elections. the other big races were party politics, take 'em or leave 'em. but this one, i just really hoped some of that supposed hardheaded maine decency would come through.

what's most dispiriting is just the sense that you can't win this fight and keep it won. even in a state where the legislature passed it and the governor signed it.

and the washington vote is good (assuming it holds up), but it's still depressing they had to call it "everything but marriage."

Fucking retards.

― StanM, Wednesday, November 4, 2009 12:04 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

If segregation legislation had to be passed by/could be overturned by referenda in the states many people would still be drinking out of different water fountains. ARGH.

Also I do wonder if it isn't psychologically easier to get people to vote yes to something rather than no - so perhaps YES to marriage/civil partnerships on a ballot would be more passable than NO don't repeal the shiny new law.

I'd like the numbers for how many people would have opposed the Voting Rights Act had it gone to state referenda.

So that old lady who's kneeling in thanksgiving, we're pretty much just waiting for her and her kind to die, right?

That is correct. And as you know from the polling numbers it really won't be long. I take a weird comfort from knowing that these folks are burning up their children's inheritances just to defer the inevitable for a couple of years.

"I will stop gay marriage or die trying" gallows lulz

the other people in that photo don't exactly look decrepit though :(

can we estimate the years since last getting laid for each person in that photo plz

xpost fortunately that's not the way this generational cohort stuff works when the margins are so narrow

VIRGINS ALL

would put money on the denim-jacketed mouth-breathing dude being a virgin

xps

The woman in the black vest in the middle of the shot is clearly undercover with the "Yes on 1" campaign and her rictus grin only hides her sorrow that she and her softball-playing girlfriend will have to postpone their honeymoon to Montana.

the ad is a copy of an irish one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULdaSrYGLQ

sinéad >>> megan imo

Part of it is that there will always be people who let their ease of disgust co-mingle with their lazy political beliefs, and since there is a great amount of people who view marriage as legitimizing sex and are thus squicked out by the thought of male gay sex, this aspect will never go away. Mix that with people views on identity and trad gender roles, and you've an uphill climb to make.

Still, the horrid aspects of many state's initiative/referenda process seem to be laid bare every election cycle, as there's no shortage of well-funded reactionaries who always manage to get bullshit on the ballot.

http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/11/a_thought_on_gay_marriage_in_maine.php

kingfish otm that this is never really about "marriage" per se but about legitimacy.