Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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Farage left the count through a back door minutes before the result was announced.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 June 2019 05:59 (four years ago) link

you love to see it

gyac, Friday, 7 June 2019 06:28 (four years ago) link

He has no time for losers cause he is the champion.. Of himself..

Oh, there he is now..

Mark G, Friday, 7 June 2019 06:29 (four years ago) link

Ah it's never mind the bielection, they're winning in the latest poll.

Mark G, Friday, 7 June 2019 06:31 (four years ago) link

“Labour’s victory in this by-election is a lesson for Jeremy Corbyn” - some cunt in the Guardian

gyac, Friday, 7 June 2019 06:37 (four years ago) link

Hahaha, wow did I underestimate how awful the Guardian was going to be.

I keep looking at this and wondering whether the Guardian should really have allowed this to be said anonymously. If people are going to say this stuff they should put their fucking name on it, no? https://t.co/C4e83zLM9i

— The Justin Horton Show (@ejhchess) June 7, 2019

gyac, Friday, 7 June 2019 06:54 (four years ago) link

Pakistanis done Brexit

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 June 2019 07:15 (four years ago) link

😍

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 07:19 (four years ago) link

Commiserations xyz :)

― glumdalclitch, Friday, 7 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

For what? :)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 07:20 (four years ago) link

Drinking in Tory newsrooms has started early:

And.. that is not a collapse of Tory vote https://t.co/LczGqsZfFj

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) June 7, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 07:30 (four years ago) link

It’s better than expected but considering they held the seat from 2005-2017...

Speaking of, the MP for those years has some thoughts.

Labour polled 31% of the vote in their 13th most marginal seat after 9 years of a Conservative Government. Terrible result for @UKLabour and Corbyn.

— Stewart Jackson (@BrexitStewart) June 7, 2019

gyac, Friday, 7 June 2019 07:32 (four years ago) link

46.8% of the vote at the 2017 GE, how are we defining "collapse"?

wake me up for "I Should Coco" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 June 2019 07:33 (four years ago) link

lot of focus on labour recently masking fact that the tory party’s electoral coalition has been liquified by brexit. you just love to see it

this result probably makes chances of a GE very low this year - though as matt says the clamour for one may become unbearable as a new tory leader struggles for legitimacy. tories not in a good way

||||||||, Friday, 7 June 2019 07:38 (four years ago) link

let's pretend a hold going from a majority of 603 in a marginal, where the bookies predicted a BP rout to a majority of 683 is a shit result eh lads?

calzino, Friday, 7 June 2019 07:42 (four years ago) link

Tbh the labour share of the vote did drop a lot but that’s not hugely surprising considering their polling and the fact the incumbent had been jailed!

gyac, Friday, 7 June 2019 07:47 (four years ago) link

Yeah in the circs Labour could have been pummelled

wake me up for "I Should Coco" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 June 2019 07:52 (four years ago) link

Turnout was 20% lower. By-election factors come into play.

Yet again, Labour's membership should get all the credit.

Wonder if there could still be a general election. A new Tory leader who goes no deal may get a lot of Brexit Party votes (be interesting whether Johnson could be trusted to deliver by that somewhat volatile section of the voters). xp

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link

I stayed up for the result last night and BXP trolls were Tweeting about the ‘Pakistani’ vote from the moment it looked like they’d lost. Fuck them. Those are British people and they include the parents of a few of my friends.

suzy, Friday, 7 June 2019 07:55 (four years ago) link

With this kind of electoral maths, there is no way the Tories can risk an election before Brexit happens in some form or another. Despite the national percentage polls and the constant Corbyn narratives in the media, under FPTP the Tory vote split with the Brexit Party is much more significant than Labour’s with the Lib Dem’s / Greens. An election before Brexit is likely to end up with a Labour plus SNP government.

AlanSmithee, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:03 (four years ago) link

Lol run it past me again how this surprise win in a marginal constituency where their previous mp had gone to prison, is a bad result for labour

Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 June 2019 08:15 (four years ago) link

Worth saying that with just about any voting system in use today that is not first-past-the-post, this would have been an easy win for the Brexit Party

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:16 (four years ago) link

j Phillips saying this result "shows that antisemitism is becoming normal in the party"??

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 June 2019 08:16 (four years ago) link

Remember the time she spoke out about Pakistani men “importing” brides and she still has the whip?

gyac, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:18 (four years ago) link

good job the previous Peterborough mp was a "good criminal" and not a nonce tho, that would have been a peado-bridge too far!

calzino, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link

Compare and contrast (20 marks)

The Birmingham Yardley MP said: “Lisa ignored and endorsed anti-Semitic things, I’ll take her explanation and apology at face value and look forward to her proving, as others have, that actions not excuses alone can heal.

“But with every case the parties values chip away and our ability to stand up against hate erodes.”

she laments that Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn did not broker a deal so that Champion could stay because "it makes it look like we sweep this stuff under the carpet and it gives more power to people who go, 'It's political correctness gone mad' and that people like me are trying to protect the perpetrators".

wake me up for "I Should Coco" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 June 2019 08:22 (four years ago) link

What an egomaniac.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 7 June 2019 08:24 (four years ago) link

the only way forward for her is for her to get her own weekly tv show where she is her own guest every week.

calzino, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link

or a comedy drama about her gritty working class upbringing on the mean streets of *checks notes* Solihull

wake me up for "I Should Coco" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 June 2019 08:30 (four years ago) link

it's almost like every stance she takes is purely based on careerist self-interest and she is completely devoid of a moral compass...

calzino, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:34 (four years ago) link

remember when our insipid state broadcaster decided to pump lots of smoke up the arse of a useless corporate shill of a politician who was very brave for sometimes making racist pronouncements?

calzino, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:49 (four years ago) link

you're going to need to be more specific

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 June 2019 08:50 (four years ago) link

just hating on Jess still! Who the bbc have apparently commissioned a series on her "gritty" middle class upbringing.

calzino, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:51 (four years ago) link

lol i was jking (kind of)

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 June 2019 09:09 (four years ago) link

the bbc did that 2017 drama about May that disappeared without a trace because I think it wasn't from a pissing away a majority in election'17 pov. And the famous Skinnock dies of embarrassment doc. They are always betting on the wrong horses recently.

calzino, Friday, 7 June 2019 09:11 (four years ago) link

I don't want to do a Deems here but funny how sub-50% turnout is less of an issue when it delivers the result you want.

Matt DC, Friday, 7 June 2019 09:13 (four years ago) link

wouldn't that be average for a by-election though?

calzino, Friday, 7 June 2019 09:15 (four years ago) link

I did mention the lower by-election turnout :)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 09:23 (four years ago) link

the usual assumption, though it's hardly cast-iron, is that the higher the turnout= the better for labour.

Although that assumption might not withstand rigourous scrutiny as i say

Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 June 2019 09:27 (four years ago) link

also lol why wd i bother making excuses when my side wins

Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 June 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link

Here is another egomaniac:

Just spoke to @LBCLondonNews about the remarkable result in Peterborough. Here’s my take on what it might tell us about the current state of politics and some raw honesty about why I wasn’t there this week...

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) June 7, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link

baby i like it raw

Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 June 2019 09:30 (four years ago) link

Be interesting to know how many Tory voters just stayed at home...

Matt DC, Friday, 7 June 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link

Probably not as many as Labour voters.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 7 June 2019 09:33 (four years ago) link

The last MP went to prison, that would tend to depress enthusiasm for the party they represented, you would think.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 7 June 2019 09:36 (four years ago) link

Good judeinlondon thread calling Wes out for his hierarchy of racism - apparently he’s happy to campaign for candidates who dogwhistle about Muslims.

suzy, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link

I agree it's a good result, one more Labour bum on a seat, and a leg cramp in the BP's march to glory. And the larger majority is more impressive considering the by-election sized turnout.

It's a weird election in a few ways - any by-election is a little odd, it's the BP's first test, it's the first ever recall election (the petition needs 10% of the electorate to kick in, but it got 27.6%!).

It's interesting that the expected Tory decimation didn't happen - on the one hand the expected implication of this would be that the Tory parts tacks towards the BP to win some of their vote - but it's not clear how much more it could do - possibly it'll hoover up more when it elects a head-banger next month.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:21 (four years ago) link

Gone down by more than enough.

The Tory voters could be staying at home because Brexit is just hoovering up all their energies and doesn't allow them to offer anything else - which Corbyn just hasn't allowed for under his leadership of Labour. Still only one of a number of issues for them.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

Corbyn hasn't even allowed himself to have a clear opinion about brexit and what the fuck to do now tbf

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 7 June 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

It's not up to him to do anything about it.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:36 (four years ago) link

He's highly representative of the party and wider public in this respect

ogmor, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link


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