marketing of masculinity

I went to high school with a dude who punched a brick wall after his girlfriend dumped him. Unsurprisingly, he did not put a hole in it.

https://d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net/wp/wp-content/images/Silicon-Valley-Door-Kick.jpg

Que es mas macho: punching holes in drywall or patching holes in drywall?

xp maybe the hole punchers would be modifying behavior quicker if we weren't in such a ubiquitous drywall culture. or we'd have a lot more hospital visits

my house has some drywall over lathe/plaster. sure as hell not punching anything around there

The most I ever did was kick in the door of my parents' kitchen cabinet as a teenager. I felt bad for destroying their kitchen cabinet after.

I use to throw the remote control at my brothers a lot growing up. I guess we would also try to beat the crap out of each other but we were good and put our karate gloves on first. I have never felt the urge to angrily punch drywall.

I have punched a hole in a door in my house once during an argument. Not proud of it obviously but it's not really different from throwing/breaking dishes (which my wife has done a few times !), imo, or is it ?

The symbolic meaning of the choice of thing to break seems p interesting

I'm not sure that I could punch through drywall if I tried. My thing was always hitting or banging my head, which might be a similar impulse.

ahah, done that too !

be pretty horrible at emotional regulation

and this is pretty otm !

yall houses be made of some shit huh

they're basically sheds

although my brother does live in a flat with cob walls so

in my experience you either have to be predisposed to punching and kicking shit or be pretty horrible at emotional regulation to start hitting the architecture

― mh, Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:50 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark

completely OTM only i think it's and not or -- i'm not even sure what "predisposed to punching" means but the latter part is true for everyone i have ever personally seen punch a hole in the wall/door, which is >1 person

i have never had any desire to punch a hole in anything although i did accidentally fuck up an entire wall trying to do gymnastics between two plaster walls. my goal was to suspend myself and do a flip but the result was 1 massively fucked up wall and no flip :-/

people who punch things when they can't control their emotions are not the sort of company i keep anymore
i guess.i understand the meme now and i also think its message sucks

Quite agree, though I think the first time I read it I misinterpreted it as being about DIY. Like, dads be remodeling; they regard putting up an interior wall as a heroic act of epic proportions.

Having it be about punching/kicking walls is uglier. It's vastly better than punching/kicking people, I guess, but still I think: don't be That Guy. Breathe. Go for a walk.

I guess there is the whole thing too of biological women generally experiencing more regular and extreme physical pain throughout their lives and men voluntarily seeking it out instead of trying to pull back from it (thus also not knowing how to manage it themselves.)

i think lots of people get the urge to punch things and this is white men once again trying to own like just basic human behaviour

"hahaha cargo shorts! what a white guy thing! and mustaches! don't get me started!"

prob good idea to get a white masculinity marketing thread goin

yall the meme is not pro-punching-drywall. it's heaping scorn on a constructed personality type. if there's something ugly about it it's that it reduces and inaccurately racializes a phenomenon of frantic lower-class rage (no doubt suburban men punch walls too but ime they don't buy, or redeem tabs for, nearly as much monster energy merchandise) into something for media twitter to wrinkle its nose at.

i have been embarrassed the last few weeks tho cuz i clipped my knuckles on a low ceiling doing jumping jacks and people have been asking if i'm okay lol

they don't buy, or redeem tabs for, nearly as much monster energy merchandise

lest this reference seem totally cryptic here is a primer from new thread resource "mel beta"

The symbolic meaning of the choice of thing to break seems p interesting

otm

http://i68.tinypic.com/2ni5pua.gif

and to think that all drywall did was "*exist*"

last time i put a hole in any kind of construction material was about a month ago when the community players were breaking down the contents of an ancient storage shed and i kicked a rotting flat. my foot was fine but i had never seen anything like the waterfall of cockroaches that emerged and kept emerging. it was like temple of doom. some of them were albino.

Another aspect to it is that it's drywall. Big Bad Dude all bent out of shape about something! So angry! Does he punch wood? Brick? No! He lays into a 3/8" thick sheet of fibrous gypsum and shows it who's BOSS.

You may as well pop balloons because you're so full of rage.

I’m picturing a muscular supervillain doing that in a movie.
Juggernaut.. CRUSH.. Balloon

I’m generally a pretty chill white male but I did punch my car door after a series of terrible driving decisions left me stuck in downtown Seattle traffic for what felt like an eternity. My hand did not defeat the door, but I suppose it was self-directed anger anyway so maybe that was the purpose. Anyway it hurt and I felt pretty dumb! Lesson is, never drive.

my uncle punched a wall and broke his hand once

much respect to that wall

wait white dudes punch walls more than dudes of color

this sounds...wildly speculative

I once stayed in a short term rental apartment with a fisthole in the wall above the bed. Landlord's deep apologies, the previous tenant, Gene, left in a rage but had promised to return and patch it up. Imagine my surprise when Gene actually showed up a few days later toting spackle and was a woman.

no really imagine it

PS spackle is saggily inadequate for fistholes. What is the frequent punchers' recommended wall repair method, anyway?

you gotta buy that mesh or the spackle just crumbles

i don't understand that drywall post at all

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera),

i'm not sure either, but i originally took it to refer to that kind of deep husky cowboy voice that does the voiceovers for commercials aimed at household chores. there's a certain kind of household appliance commercial style that elevates the task into a kind of manly patriotic duty.

making this up, but it's like "every weekend. you mow the lawn. because you're precise. *string accompaniment begins fading in* and it doesn't matter how long it takes. because it's not about you. it's about doing things right. *other orchestra instruments start joining in* it's about doing things the right _way_. because you care *sweeping timpani crescendo, choral group begins singing aaron copland's arrangement of SImple Gifts* because you're always going to be there. every weekend. until the job is done. john deere. because nothing runs like a deer...e"

so when i saw mildly inconvenienced white guy overreacting to drywall that way, i thought of it as another mundane household task that would be fashioned into a feat of faithful courage by some dumb commercial. not sure that makes sense now, though.

I know it's always annoying when someone does this, but: is this an American thing?

I do <3 you, karl

Does Europe have drywall?

Is Europe even dry?

I'm sure dudes of color have hit plenty of walls, but it's mostly seen as a white guy thing since we've got (1.) misplaced and usually wrongful aggression, (2.) a certain privilege possessed that it takes to tear up your own property and (3.) it's not a punching bag or a pane of glass, but drywall, I think it's a white guy thing, sorry you all couldn't understand.

Ftr, I've never punched any wall. Saw my dad punch through some drywall once. It was simultaneously the silliest and scariest thing I'd ever witnessed up to that point.

I've very carefully cut into drywall with a pad saw for switches/socket outlets etc many times in the past. Punching drywall isn't the way to do it.

when I was a teen, I punched a bunch of holes in my room. when my parents decided to sell the home, they made me patch all of the holes and paint the room. pain in the ass. I wish I could say I never did it again, but years later while learning how to use contact lenses, I got angry and put the heel of my foot through a wall. I think I lost a few hundred dollars off my security deposit from that, so that was the last time. someone above otm about shoddily made modern homes/apartments.

My house was built in 1939; walls are plaster and lath and brick, I guess? Some later wood paneling (probably laminate. If I wanted to punch drywall I'd have to go buy some drywall first. Which seems pretty involved. No thanks.

in baseball it’s always very angry pitchers who punch walls and often they break their hand

Does Europe have drywall?

We call it plasterboard in the UK, afaik. Here's Keith showing us how to style it out:

https://i.redd.it/eu7b8mf11ni11.jpg

when i was in the UK electrical installations biz they were called stud walls. I hated them tbh because you often would end up wearing out 3 spade bits drilling holes into wooden joists for the cables to go through and then you'd have plate every bit of wood the cable passes through and the less said about them horrible fast-fix boxes the better. And some people seemed to think this was much easier than chasing out plaster/brick and you'd be expected to finish it twice as fast.

in baseball it’s always very angry pitchers who punch walls and often they break their hand

I remember this happening in the 2004 NLCS, Julian Tavarez gave up a home run to Carlos Beltran and then went to the dugout and tried to beat up a telephone, breaking his hand in the process.

kinder <3

If I wanted to punch drywall I'd have to go buy some drywall first

Bringing this back around to the thread topic, who wants to invest in my theme pub for men that has big sports on TVs and punchable walls replaced daily?

Kevin Brown was a very good example, I remember this happening during his ill-fated 2004 season w/the Yankees:

In 2004, he posted a 10–6 record with a 4.09 ERA, but experienced health problems during the season. Toward the end of the season, he punched a wall in frustration,[7] injuring his hand.

xp
You might want to wait until the ax-throwing bar craze dies down.

it's sort of amazing how often this happens in baseball, and it's always pitchers

every once in a while there'll be a guy who at least remembered to use his non-pitching hand

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wjbavx/dumb-pitchers-punching-shit-and-getting-injured-a-selected-history

doesn't even mention Alex Reyes or Drew Pomeranz