Morrissey is a racist

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"Defending the recent controversy roused by performing his covers while wearing a pro-Brexit “For Britain” badge, political artist Morrissey recently insisted that"

It is not a "pro-Brexit" badge, it's a "pro-racism" badge. Nice try though Armand.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

describing 'national front disco' as 'uniquely stirring' is some god-tier trolling

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection.

want to vote for a party with a vegetarian leader? at the last uk general election, you had jeremy corbyn, tim farron and jonathan bartley to choose from and the last of whom is i think now vegan. the green party had explicit animal welfare policies in their manifesto. the labour party have a vegan mp (kerry mccarthy). pretending that amw is a lone voice for animals in uk politics is total bollocks

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

There was some Animal Welfare party dropping leaflets 'round my area and they were explicitly anti-Brexit because they believe animal rights legislation will suffer w/o EU restrictions.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

yes, that too

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

i dunno guys, i get this horrible nagging feeling that morrissey might actually be a little bit racist

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

and also that his stance against non-vegetarians is subject to negotiations: Dave Bowie got a black look, TommyYargMcSweeney gets a mild shake of head.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

milkshake on the head surely?

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

doesn't sound like Morrissey, no.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

a milkshake on the head
well, a nation turns its back and gags

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

I don't know if anyone else saw this, but there was a BBC Four documentary on recently which was examining fandom/tribalism etc. in music since rock'n'roll began. Eventually the subject turned to The Smiths and how they touched those who felt like outsiders or marginalised, and two incredibly devoted Smiths/Morrissey fans were interviewed and showed off their collection of memorabilia. One was a black woman who found inspiration in The Smiths and moved to Manchester and decided to aspire to university even though she initially didn't feel capable of it. Another guy was of Asian descent and showed off his setlists/pictures of him with Morrissey/autographs etc.

I'm guessing that this was filmed quite some time back, so the issue of Morrissey's racism wasn't touched upon, but I wouldn't be surprised if these fans felt more than a little crushed or even betrayed by Morrissey's post-2004 actions.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

Or maybe they'd find some way to justify it.

DT, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful

You're the One for Me, Fatty

Everyone Ultimately Prefers Their Own Race

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 26, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link

Asked by Rayner why he has not sued The Guardian, who were among the titles to publish critical articles about him in the aftermath, Morrissey said: “As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”


This is one guy who deserves a milkshaking
Later, he added: “The Guardian have pestered and relentlessly harassed musicians in my life urging them not to work with me again[…] In these days of casual knife crime and hurling of acid, you’d expect The Guardian to maintain a certain careful morality. But no. If I suffered physical harm as a direct result of the Guardian’s tyranny, you can imagine cheers and champagne exploding through their offices… it chills the blood. The Guardian fully believes it is a political party.”


Lol

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

Just because you're paranoid...

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

“As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”
reading this as "even his British libel lawyers are telling him it's not worth suing as he doesn't have a case."

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

a so-called entertainer

otm

omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

"as an entertainer, I have no human rights"

*lawyer whispers urgently in his ear*

"as a SO-CALLED entertainer, i have" etc

mark s, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

sing this inna Morrissey Smiths stylee and it actually works

If I were a postman
I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian
And been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now

omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

and if a champagne bottle
exploded in the offices of the guardian
to die by your side
....

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

(To the intro of Speedway)

And when you SLAM down the champagne...can you hear the Guardian cheer?
All human rights keeping me protected - they don’t apply, don’t apply
To so-called enterTAINers

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

racism can stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

on the nose I know, but..

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

I am glad you started there rather than at "racism is nice but"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

moz has sided with the bomb

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

Interpol’s Paul Banks on Touring With Morrissey: “A Good Show for Our Band”

No, Paul. No.

“That’s how I’m looking at it. I don’t get too much into the other stuff.”

https://pitchfork.com/news/interpol-paul-banks-on-touring-with-morrissey-a-good-show-for-our-band/

Position Position, Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

Morrissey is a racist and this Interpol guy is a fucking dimwit.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

no one tell wcc

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

re: moz ,,,,,, that joke isn't funny anymore

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

that jerk isn't funny anymore

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

Looked up the old "should Morrissey have Pj Harvey supporting him?" controversy and found some guy being racist on the thread
https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/p-j-harvey-fox-hunting-bitch.37392/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 28 June 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

well my day is worse for reading that

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

Read bits of this too, I'm too lazy to read the whole thing
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/02/today-thoughts-for-the-day-pj-harvey-bbc-assange-pilger

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 28 June 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

Billy Bragg is on your side
But you lose
Cause Interpol is on mine

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 28 June 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/gvT2KBv.jpg

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 June 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link

Stolen from facebook. Not a real single (or quote)

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 June 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link

chapeau to whoever knocked that together

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Friday, 28 June 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link

Morrissey hasn't let himself go yet

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/views-on-morrissey/

Vernon Locke, Friday, 28 June 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link

When I listen to a beloved song – Neil Young’s ‘On the Beach’, for instance – I feel, at my very core, that that song is speaking to me and to me alone, that I have taken possession of that song exclusively

Haha no kidding - you rereleased it as Higgs Boson Blues...

Wild that Nick did Cosmic Dancer live recently. I would love to have been there to hear that.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 28 June 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

What a pompous narcissist he sounds in that blog entry.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 28 June 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link

The weirdest/funniest thing about this Morrissey thing is how he keeps saying worse and worse things, in contexts where he has more and more control (i.e. getting interview for his own site by his own bloody nephew), and then he just denies/seems oblivious to what he's said. How can someone say something like "Everyone prefers their own race" - as basic as racist statements get - and then come out harrumphing and threatening to sue when he's called out on it?

Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link

I think Morrissey's views do change his songs of the past, now that we know they were written from the point of view of a racist.

How Soon Is Now, for example, is about a guy not able to pull cos he's a racist. An incel anthem, if you think about it. https://t.co/TKp7h5aIex

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 29, 2019

Now when I think of Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want, I realise now it's written from the point of view of a teary eyed racist incel, bubbling cos he's not racist but.

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 29, 2019

What a twist. I've said it before, but it's like The Sixth Sense. I want to listen to the songs all over again from this fresh perspective.

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 29, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 29 June 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link

Whatever inanities he may postulate

🙄

pomenitul, Saturday, 29 June 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link

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mark s, Saturday, 29 June 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

My takeaway from that is that Nick Cave blog post is that he's encouraging people to pirate Morrissey's music.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Saturday, 29 June 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

Xpost mark s that is a really great piece

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 29 June 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

thx dude :)

mark s, Saturday, 29 June 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

yeah that's really good

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 29 June 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

Those songs were always expressing the pov of an isolated misanthrope, who knows he turns people off. That their author is a racist, which was clear enough to me since I first bought an album titled Viva Hate and heard the song titled "Bengali in Platforms", doesn't change their meaning that much for me.

I read it some time ago and want to join the chorus of praise for Mark's piece.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 June 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link


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