Was the Information left off the album list in error?Didn't vote cuz I didn't feel like diving back into Beck right now. Interested to see song results!Vultures > Mellow >> Odelay >> other things
― maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link
i still don't really 'get' pre-Odelay Beck much at all, like Mellow Gold has its moments but everyone else is clearly hearing something in it and One Foot In The Grave that i don't― ufo, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 00:42 (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ufo, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 00:42 (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Same here - definitely some good songs but I've never been able to get into either of those albums properly.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link
the Ktel quote above puts the appeal of the early material pretty well,I think. That was great, hadn't heard that. Also maybe you "had to be there" to some degree, throwing chicken in a bucketI find Odelay pretty tough to get through now. it's dated in a way most of his other work isn't, somehow. It's still fun but, I dunno very much of its time. The sound of being the coolest thing going in 1996? It's not exactly the Dust Brothers sound I'm talking about (have never gotten tired of Paul's Boutique)
― maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link
I rate Odelay less these days because the songs work if your patience extends to an album length of obscurantic readymades infused by hip-hop whereas Mellow Gold has recognizable love songs and skewed narratives in a folk tradition. That's partly why I like Guero's "Scarecrow": it melds the hip-hop and folk sensibilities.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
and besides, Cibo Matto were cooler
― maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link
the songs work if your patience extends to an album length of obscurantic readymades infused by hip-hop
You say that like it's a bad thing!
I get what you mean though. I rate Odelay higher but thats a good point about the difference between it & Mellow Gold, for all the clutter & sonic craziness most of the songs still have some identifiable narrative or lyrical point of view.
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link
I should've mentioned that I bought MG in 2002, years after Odelay, so I was more struck by their differences.
And, no, I didn't mean my criticism as dismissal -- I don't mind obscurantism.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link
Midnite Vultures, then (ahem), is the perfect synthesis of Cool Beck and Don't Care Beck. Resulting in our one proper artifact of Party Down Beck.It should've gotten better reviews. People bashed it for not caring enough, for being silly while being funky. think what we could have had. You monsters. All of us.
― maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
Also maybe you "had to be there" to some degree, throwing chicken in a bucket
eh i didn't listen to mellow gold until 2002. can't say i immediately loved everything on it but the weird coherently-incoherent sensibility behind it + the tunes kept me coming back
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link
mellow gold turns to the insanity rather than the homeliness of rural america and renders it in space-age technicolour. it's backwards folk-art by a sophisticate who understands his subject and it's so good that its inauthenticity isn't even a concern
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link
i quit my job blowing leaves
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link
y'all on the same wave in 2002
― maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link
maffew12 otm re:vultures. There was a good interview with beck in pfork a few years ago where vultures comes up and beck is kind of apologizing for it, almost sounds a little embarrassed, like "yeah we were trying to do something and experimenting, maybe it didnt work but it was a certain time & place, etc". And the interviewer says that vultures is a favorite of his (not even THE favorite, but just A favorite) and beck reacts with surprise and says that he's never heard anyone say that. And it's just like, really? You've never heard anyone say that this record is one of their faves? Is it possible that he really doesn't have an idea of how good that record is, and considers it a failed experiment? He seems to have such a strange perspective on his own work.
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link
What. It's worse than I thought. Damn it!
― maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link
Beck is a Scientologist -- he hears what he wants to hear.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
The one time I saw him live was around Guero. Fun little show. That album actually sounds like him trying to have as much fun as he can within the parameters we've allowed.I weep!
― maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
i think the sound of Mellow Gold is really cool but i don't really care for the tunes that much so it's just a fascinating mostly impenetrable mess of sound to me
― ufo, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
I like MG’s shotgun scattershot sonics over Odelay, which sounds pretty uniform in its production approach
― calstars, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
xp That's kind of how I feel about the other pre-Odelay material. Have you heard that stuff?I've been a bit hard on Old Beck. Colors is pretty damn good at this point.
― maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link
never really given One Foot In The Grave a fair go btw so that's what I'll do now
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
this album has some cool chords!
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link
I made a music video for “Sweet Sunshine” in eighth grade for some kind of project
― Detective Picacho (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link
i originally was going to do a Top 40 but i liked the 41 - 50 so much i asked One Eye Open if he could put together 10 more images. he agreed and now we have a Top 50 countdown.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
hell yeah
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
Spofity is collaborated, can people help out with keeping it up to date? thanks!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6ji3OOkQQzplwXxyZZFt49?si=1NvF9IOtSDaeVVwX-SloZA
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/KxZmGg1.jpg50. Peaches & CreamFrom: Midnite VulturesReleased: November 23, 1999133 Points, 5 Votes
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
Awesome visuals 📶📶📶
― calstars, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
ooh ooh ooh!
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
oh peaches, they're going to do you like that?I should've taken part. Be back at the end!
― maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
"You make a garbage man screamCome on girl it's a dream"
one of my favorites and this one did make my ballot.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
good percussion
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
I shoulda voted for it but just could not find the space, I love this one
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
Man, the Midnite Vultures stuff did not age well, I'm sorry
― Detective Picacho (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
xp thanks calstars. Beck's album art & videos bring up so many distinct visual themes in my mind - the junk sculptures of Mellow Gold, the 70s ads & formica of Odelay, country & western swag, the more melancholy surrealism & pastel vibes of his 2000s stuff - it was fun to mash all those together and mix them up.
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
xpost to me
I mean, to think that, like, one year year later, Pharrell would be making some of the sickest actual rap and R&B music out with actual funky beats and a this same quasi-ironic falsetto and off-kilter outlook, idk
― Detective Picacho (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
You make a dead garbage man scream come
― calstars, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link
― Detective Picacho (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, June 5, 2019 10:31 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think the more straight up electro pop moments aged extremely well cf. "get real paid"
indifferent to the idea of aging beyond that anyway
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link
i guess i get that the attitude behind some of the songs aged incredibly poorly but again, i feel like that is mainly isolated to "hollywood freaks"
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
i like the idea of still needing 5 votes to get into the Top 50.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/G9KnCB0.jpg49. Thunder PeelFrom: Stereopathetic SoulmanureReleased: 22 February 1994136 Points, 5 votes
I'm not the biggest fan of Midnite Vultures and it does feel a bit like the beginning of the end in some ways...but much of it is still quite good imo
oh what's this
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
glad you went with a top 50 as i would've been devastated to miss "thunderpeel" in the countdown xp
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
Stereopathetic Soulmanure not being on Spotify is argument No. 501 on why throwing away your CDs is stupid
― Detective Picacho (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
both versions whip ass but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiQVyxguc2s
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
Peaches & Cream didn't make my ballot in favor of some of the more bonkers MV tracks, but does have some of the best & weirdest lines on that record
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
Someone on youtube should do a supercut of Beck's end-of-song noise jams, like his version of that Neil Young feedback album.
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
OK why haven't I heard Stereopathetic Soulmanure before
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
it rules
Thunder Peel rules, I saw him do it live on the Odelay tour and it smoked
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link
wow yes imago i recommend that you listen to that music album
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
can't remember where Thunder Peel was on my ballot but it was def in the top 15
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link