I'm working my way through the big criterion collection box. Still only about a quarter of the way through. Trying to keep track of my Bergman power rankings as I proceed. There have been some nice surprises so far and a couple duds. A whole bunch of ones I've never seen before too.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 02:58 (five months ago) link
I saw The Virgin Spring yesterday at sort of a sparsely attended screening. even knowing the movie going in I underestimated how unbelievably harrowing and intense it is on a big screen and with other people, who were all either dead silent or openly weeping.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 04:03 (five months ago) link
that's the kind of screening I want to attend
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 05:06 (five months ago) link
I just realized I've never seen any of his films on the big screen. Hopefully I'll be able to rectify that someday.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 05:10 (five months ago) link
To me "showing cycles of rage and affection" is something that makes it 1st tier. Can't say I know what you mean on the direction, probably because I don't quite know how to evaluate that stuff.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 06:42 (five months ago) link
The staging and framing are often A+; the writing too on-the-nose (probably one offscreen death too many).
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:27 (five months ago) link
I reckon he takes quite a lot of risks with that script, hence maybe why you feel it's on-the-nose.
It does feel like Bergman is doing a session of psychoanalysis and ends up breaking people lol.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:59 (five months ago) link
was Summer With Monika really the film that made US critics/audiences recognize that Sweden had a more sexually liberated culture? if so, that’s interesting
― Dan S, Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:00 (four months ago) link
I loved Smiles of a Summer Night
― Dan S, Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:31 (four months ago) link
That was a new one to me when I got the criterion set, and it's probably my favorite find, absolutely delightful.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 14 July 2019 04:11 (four months ago) link
his best comedy - his only good comedy? the ones I've seen (Waiting Women and All These Women) are terrible
― flappy bird, Sunday, 14 July 2019 05:16 (four months ago) link
Have never seen The Devils's Eye, is that a bad comedy too?
― Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Sunday, 14 July 2019 08:51 (four months ago) link
I'd like to hear any review of The Devil's Eye, one of the very few classic period Bergmans I've not seen.
HIs birthday today - 101
― Josefa, Sunday, 14 July 2019 14:22 (four months ago) link
wasn't expecting to love Wild Strawberries so much, seeing it again after decades
― Dan S, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 00:58 (three months ago) link
have been re-reading the thread. I guess you could call Wild Strawberries ‘life-affirming’. I just really liked how much of a fantasia it was, mixing absurd real events, dreams, and memories in the protagonist’s path from withdrawal to engagement. Victor Sjöström was great in it
― Dan S, Friday, 30 August 2019 23:17 (two months ago) link
thought To Joy was one of the strangest and most interesting of his early films
― Dan S, Sunday, 1 September 2019 23:52 (two months ago) link
I enjoyed seeing the 60s Bergman films that are supposed to form a trilogy - Through a Glass Darkly, Winter Light, and The Silence.
According to Bergman “these three films deal with reduction: Through a Glass Darkly – conquered certainty; Winter Light – penetrated certainty; The Silence – God's silence, the negative imprint.”
They are very dark (The Silence also has a lot of humor), but they are all fantastic
― Dan S, Friday, 20 September 2019 02:25 (one month ago) link
thought The Silence did seem somewhat Fellini-esque as flappy bird mentioned above, mostly the sections with the the child
Those are coming up soon in my Bergman box. I haven't seen them in about 15 years, but I remember them all being brutally bleak.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 20 September 2019 02:28 (one month ago) link
they all seem to be focused on the acknowledgement of the silence of god, and the choices that the characters then have about how to live their lives: Through a Glass Darkly ultimately concluding that god is love amid the scenes of hopelessness; Winter Light, in which rational discussions of love for and belief in god and belief in human relationships reveal them to be problematic, with some hope ultimately offered for faith; The Silence, even further diminishing our confidence in faith but also maybe elevating it, offering of a huge ray of light with the character of Johan1
― Dan S, Friday, 20 September 2019 02:45 (one month ago) link
Ended up skipping over Persona, Hour of the Wolf, The Passion of Anna, and Cries and Whispers for the moment and watching Scenes from a Marriage, the theatrical version. The first time I saw it was as a teenager. It feels now like it was of its time, in a good way
― Dan S, Saturday, 5 October 2019 00:47 (one month ago) link
Gotta do the long version, it's so good
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 5 October 2019 00:49 (one month ago) link
thinking I should, maybe will wait until I work my way through the rest of his films though. It does bring up for me the question of whether to watch the mini-series version or theatrical version of Fanny and Alexander
seeing this again a lot of its appeal is in the attractiveness of the two main characters, and I can now better relate to their worry about the reality of love, about the possibility of not having loved or been loved enough
― Dan S, Saturday, 5 October 2019 00:57 (one month ago) link
It definitely hit me harder on my recent viewing than the previous one some 15 years ago. A big part of it is just their wonderful acting and all the long, long takes.
I prefer the theatrical F&A, it flows better, but both are worth watching.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 5 October 2019 01:13 (one month ago) link
I probably say it a couple times a year on this board, but you NEED to watch the full cut of F&A.
― Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Saturday, 5 October 2019 01:46 (one month ago) link
criterion channel does have both
― Dan S, Saturday, 5 October 2019 01:52 (one month ago) link
really looking forward to seeing Persona again
― Dan S, Saturday, 5 October 2019 02:24 (one month ago) link
Cries and Whisper is intense, it feels like a culmination of his surreal psychosexual dramas
― Dan S, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 01:10 (two weeks ago) link
I like Ebert’s description that the camera darts and falls back as if stunned, then in other scenes doesn’t look away when you want it to, focusing on the close-up with extreme impassivity
― Dan S, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 04:27 (two weeks ago) link
not sure what I think of Face to Face as a film, but Liv Ullmann is an incredible force in it
“love surrounds everything, even death” is a good resolution
― Dan S, Thursday, 7 November 2019 01:21 (one week ago) link
it is kind of amazing that he allows dream scenes to take over big segments of his films
― Dan S, Thursday, 7 November 2019 02:07 (one week ago) link
Face to Face is second tier Bergman. I have trouble remembering it beyond Ullmann reaction shots (as ever).
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 02:20 (one week ago) link
it feels like a lot of his characters even if they are tragic are willing/trying to support others
I love that about his films
― Dan S, Thursday, 7 November 2019 02:29 (one week ago) link