Tangerine Dream S/D

Seriously can't wait for this box to arrive.

I have a soft spot in my heart for The Dream Mixes (1995). They tried to nail a 90's, FSOL-type sound and didn't quite get there. It seemed slightly dated when it came out, and now it has a great retro-90s appeal to me. It reminds me of Lawnmower Man, Beyond The Mind's Eye, Mondo 2000 and Schwa. Younger Vaporwave fans might also find this one interesting.

Also the songs are actually good.

Just got the email that the box is on its way to me. Time to rearrange the shelves again...

Read only good things about the big box but I'm sort of hoping the new single CD editions of the main albums will suffice. They're cheap and you get a good selection of bonus tracks including the SW stereo mixes. That leaves the London concerts and Oedious Tyrannus, which may be good but I'm not quite a TD superfan.

That '95 album sounds intriguing XP.

And the Phaedra outtakes. And it is a one time pressing. Really not bothered about 5.1 though.

Arriving today...

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I follow you on Twitter too and how many fuckin times are you gonna post about this

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Tangerine Dream rule.

https://www.magneticmag.com/2019/12/tangerine-dream-exhibit-original-synths-unreleased-footage-london-2020/

Ohh! That's looks great.

Really wish they weren't sullying the band's name by continuing to record and tour since Edgar's death. It's not TD without him.

^^^ Agree 100%. I mean, if Franke and Baumann came back and took over, that would be one thing, but all three current members joined in the 21st century! That's just fucked up.

I don’t totally agree - I feel like TD is an entity with an identifiable ‘thesis’ sonically, Froese wanted them to go on iirc, and let’s face it he was pretty terrible for the last idk 20 years of his life?

(And yet I do go on extended jags of listening to terrible-era TD)

that was Daevid Allen's thing with Gong, too. IIRC the current incarnation of Gong is all people who joined in 2012 or later

fwiw TD have released like 100 albums since 1983 that appear to mostly be pretty bad so idk if I'd be worried about their legacy being "sullied". I think it's pretty widely accepted that when you talk about Tangerine Dream you're only really talking up to say, Tangram. also I'm not sure the new band is actually recording "new" new material - I thought the 2017 album was fleshed out versions of things Froese left behind and the new stuff appears to be mostly re-recordings. though with Ulrich Schnauss in the band I'd be curious to see what they'd come up with as originals

Tangram? You’re crazy. Imperial period runs up until schmoelling leaves imo

I honestly don’t know...I think I’ve only gotten as far as Force Majuere. For some reason I decided to explore the endless catalogue of Klamath Schulze instead.

that's in southern Oregon right?

I find Schulze kinda boring

Me too but it reeeeeally hits the spot sometimes

OK I listened to Quantum Gate. That was the one mentioned upthread? It was... not bad? Fairly unmemorable but far from the worst album under the TD name.

The Enid are another band with only new members that got their old leader's blessing.

Whether these new incarnations get the former leader's blessing or not is not really here or there, they're still rubbish.

Hard disagree there re. the Torabi-fronted Gong

Don’t forget Bill Black’s Combo, who continued after his widow sold the name to the band

oh god 80s TD is my favorite: white eagle is my top TD album, hyperborea, poland... underwater sunlight is about where it gets too generic-sounding for me and i get bored.

also check out froese's pinnacles, kamikaze 1983 and schmoelling's wuivend riet

I think my favorite TD LP is Logos.
Agreed that Underwater Sunlight is the last album with anything worthwhile on it, but just barely.

Optical Race has some pretty neat tunes on it

Hope they're hauling the old modular into that Barbican thingy. Did Green Desert ever get a proper release with Froese's 80s digital crap excised?

I quite like the recent Gong albums. they're not as great as classic period Gong but they're really good psych albums and dont' denigrate the legacy the way, say, the last Yes album did. I haven't spent time with the latest TD stuff though.

Jesus, "Coldwater Canyon" on "Encore", the guys in the band gradually work up interesting and intricate rhythmic backing only for Edgar Froese to bollocks it up with tedious boilerplate guitarwiddle for a good quarter of an hour - not so much mind ernie-ing as edgar-ing. Context is everything, and love the guy usually, but I seriously think Edgar Froese might be my least favourite guitar player of all time.

he has a good tone for the most part though

I hear that but love his guitar on Force Majeure.

accidentally posted on the noise board, reposting here:

I've long heard about a version of Froese's "Marouba Bay" that was *accidentally released backwards (as in, the song plays in reverse). It was supposedly released on a compilation called Electronic Dreams. I just downloaded this version and it is exactly the same as the version on Epsilon in Malaysian Pale. Is there anywhere I can hear this infamous backward version?

(*I have no idea how something like this gets "accidentally" released without anyone noticing).

Sounds like the story about Fripp/Eno's "No Pussyfooting" accidentally being played backwards on the John Peel Show. I suppose if you put the tape in the wrong way round? I forget how reel-to-reels work.

Maroubra Bay (Recorded Backwards)

IIRC there's one French edition of Zeit that's somehow mastered backwards. Probably went unnoticed for years.

It's like a bad joke - "Didja hear the one about the electronic musician whose album was played backwards, and nobody noticed? Haw haw haw..."

It's true, the comments are interesting here -

https://www.discogs.com/release/303081

easy enough to recreate these days though. might try it over the weekend.

Did anyone else see them on the brief North American tour they took, where they specifically focused on their film scores? It was really interesting, but I
don't recall them playing cues from some of my favourites, like THREE O'CLOCK HIGH, MIRACLE MILE, and THE KEEP.

The fact that The Keep has never gotten a proper soundtrack-- the one they issued had a bunch of lesser stuff they did long after the fact-- has frustrated me to no end. The opening titles are some of my favorite TD ever.

"Stealing the Silver Cross" is such a brilliant cue. The film itself has been in a bizarre legal state for years, and only very recently did it get any kind of official DVD release (in Australia).
Paramount won't even let out their 35mm prints of it-if you want to see it in celluloid, you have to get a copy from a collector or the British Film Institute, which has one with a busted
soundtrack over the first reel that plays like a really obnoxious pager buzzing.

I have never gotten the love for Thief. I always go back to it because it's so well loved and I feel like I must be missing something, but the only one I ever remember is "Beach Theme / Scene." What am I missing?

The Keep is staggeringly good music. There are a couple of really good expanded boots on the web, quite listenable except for a few bits. It does not seem likely there’ll ever be a legit release. I could maybe see a reconstruction though along the lines of the Edgar Rothermich recording of Blade Runner which BSX released.

I like the official album they released in the 90s but in no way does it serve as a satisfactory Keep OST.

What are the obstacles to a proper soundtrack release? The film itself seems to be in a limbo for home release but I saw it on television several years ago.

Probably not lucrative enough to make it worth jumping through the contractual hoops to make it happen?

The licensing of film score reissues is really complicated and costly and if there’s one stakeholder who doesn’t want to play or who is holding out for a crazy price you’re out of luck. Also they have to find the soundtrack elements and it’s very common for those to have been thrown into a landfill somewhere.

But I imagine whatever rights limbo afflicts the movie also prevents a score release. TD are popular and it’s an eighties genre movie - it’d definitely sell

All sorts of obscure soundtracks come out quite often so I'd think it would be simple enough most of the time, but a total headache often enough to be wary?

So, I flipped Zeit around (see upthread) if any of you weirdos wanna listen to it, here's a link: https://we.tl/t-EzEd8XRzgf