Morrissey is a racist

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so pleased to finally meet you Mike...I've invoked your name countless times on message borads over the decades....

calzino, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it

Who asked you?

The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party

this might be the dumbest sentence I've ever seen

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 3 June 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link

Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of Darth Vader stems from accusations that he is either “a sith" or “anti-jedi” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-jedis openly support his reign of terror)

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 June 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

Defensive Morrissey Fans Take Gold In Mental Gymnastics

“Morrissey supporters are passionate enough to weather anything he says — they will make a quick Facebook post denouncing him, but still excitedly buy a ticket to see him live just minutes later,” said panel member Lorena Bosko. “I mean, less than two years ago, he victim-blamed Kevin Spacey’s accusers, criticized multiculturalism, and voiced his support of Brexit, all in the same interview… and his last album still charted!”

...

At press time, the ICPF announced that the mental gymnastics silver medal was awarded to fans of Chris Brown for the third year in a row, while the fans of Jake Paul were disqualified for all being under 16 and therefore too young for consideration.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link

Eh, I don't see any real contradiction in denouncing someone's actions or comments and still appreciating their artistic work.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

Yes, worse to defend his comments and actions - which plenty of them do.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

This should put any accusations to rest. https://youtu.be/tuEwsB_7Nm0

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

I still think this thread should be renamed "Morrissey's a racist, Morrissey's a racist, la la la la, la la la la.."

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

omg that dude's channel is ridiculous

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

long live buff correl

boobie, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

Confirmed:

Morrissey rethinks the personal and political power of pop music on California Son. https://t.co/QJSneKudaC #Morrissey #BobDylan #BryanFerry

— armond white (@3xchair) June 5, 2019

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

oh armondpaws

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

"Defending the recent controversy roused by performing his covers while wearing a pro-Brexit “For Britain” badge, political artist Morrissey recently insisted that"

It is not a "pro-Brexit" badge, it's a "pro-racism" badge. Nice try though Armand.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

describing 'national front disco' as 'uniquely stirring' is some god-tier trolling

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection.

want to vote for a party with a vegetarian leader? at the last uk general election, you had jeremy corbyn, tim farron and jonathan bartley to choose from and the last of whom is i think now vegan. the green party had explicit animal welfare policies in their manifesto. the labour party have a vegan mp (kerry mccarthy). pretending that amw is a lone voice for animals in uk politics is total bollocks

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

There was some Animal Welfare party dropping leaflets 'round my area and they were explicitly anti-Brexit because they believe animal rights legislation will suffer w/o EU restrictions.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

yes, that too

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

i dunno guys, i get this horrible nagging feeling that morrissey might actually be a little bit racist

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

and also that his stance against non-vegetarians is subject to negotiations: Dave Bowie got a black look, TommyYargMcSweeney gets a mild shake of head.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

milkshake on the head surely?

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

doesn't sound like Morrissey, no.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

a milkshake on the head
well, a nation turns its back and gags

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

I don't know if anyone else saw this, but there was a BBC Four documentary on recently which was examining fandom/tribalism etc. in music since rock'n'roll began. Eventually the subject turned to The Smiths and how they touched those who felt like outsiders or marginalised, and two incredibly devoted Smiths/Morrissey fans were interviewed and showed off their collection of memorabilia. One was a black woman who found inspiration in The Smiths and moved to Manchester and decided to aspire to university even though she initially didn't feel capable of it. Another guy was of Asian descent and showed off his setlists/pictures of him with Morrissey/autographs etc.

I'm guessing that this was filmed quite some time back, so the issue of Morrissey's racism wasn't touched upon, but I wouldn't be surprised if these fans felt more than a little crushed or even betrayed by Morrissey's post-2004 actions.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

Or maybe they'd find some way to justify it.

DT, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful

You're the One for Me, Fatty

Everyone Ultimately Prefers Their Own Race

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 26, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link

Asked by Rayner why he has not sued The Guardian, who were among the titles to publish critical articles about him in the aftermath, Morrissey said: “As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”


This is one guy who deserves a milkshaking
Later, he added: “The Guardian have pestered and relentlessly harassed musicians in my life urging them not to work with me again[…] In these days of casual knife crime and hurling of acid, you’d expect The Guardian to maintain a certain careful morality. But no. If I suffered physical harm as a direct result of the Guardian’s tyranny, you can imagine cheers and champagne exploding through their offices… it chills the blood. The Guardian fully believes it is a political party.”


Lol

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

Just because you're paranoid...

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

“As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”
reading this as "even his British libel lawyers are telling him it's not worth suing as he doesn't have a case."

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

a so-called entertainer

otm

omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

"as an entertainer, I have no human rights"

*lawyer whispers urgently in his ear*

"as a SO-CALLED entertainer, i have" etc

mark s, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

sing this inna Morrissey Smiths stylee and it actually works

If I were a postman
I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian
And been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now

omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

and if a champagne bottle
exploded in the offices of the guardian
to die by your side
....

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

(To the intro of Speedway)

And when you SLAM down the champagne...can you hear the Guardian cheer?
All human rights keeping me protected - they don’t apply, don’t apply
To so-called enterTAINers

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

racism can stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

on the nose I know, but..

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

I am glad you started there rather than at "racism is nice but"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

moz has sided with the bomb

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

Interpol’s Paul Banks on Touring With Morrissey: “A Good Show for Our Band”

No, Paul. No.

“That’s how I’m looking at it. I don’t get too much into the other stuff.”

https://pitchfork.com/news/interpol-paul-banks-on-touring-with-morrissey-a-good-show-for-our-band/

Position Position, Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

Morrissey is a racist and this Interpol guy is a fucking dimwit.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

no one tell wcc

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

re: moz ,,,,,, that joke isn't funny anymore

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

that jerk isn't funny anymore

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

Looked up the old "should Morrissey have Pj Harvey supporting him?" controversy and found some guy being racist on the thread
https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/p-j-harvey-fox-hunting-bitch.37392/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 28 June 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

well my day is worse for reading that

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

Read bits of this too, I'm too lazy to read the whole thing
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/02/today-thoughts-for-the-day-pj-harvey-bbc-assange-pilger

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 28 June 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

Billy Bragg is on your side
But you lose
Cause Interpol is on mine

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 28 June 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/gvT2KBv.jpg

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 June 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link

Stolen from facebook. Not a real single (or quote)

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 June 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link

Zurich is stained.

Chris L, Monday, 29 January 2024 16:37 (three months ago) link


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