no, i didn't know that the June 2019 US Politics thread was nasty

Whether or not Trump personally accepts the result of the election is of trivial concern to me. What matters is how many people he can convince he's right and the election was a fraud to the point where they get violent.

The tradition in the USA is to peaceably abide by election results, no matter how suspicious or questionable the results may be. It is so strong a tradition that we had no actual street violence after the 2000 election. That wasn't solely because Gore chose not to incite his followers, but conceded. No one was going to riot on his say-so.

My sense is that Trump doesn't have nearly enough pull with the public to override the 2020 election, if he loses. His allies in Congress only put up with him as a necessary evil. More importantly, there's not one state governor who would take the risk to back him up. Sure, he'd whine, but most of the USA would shrug it off.

More importantly, there's not one state governor who would take the risk to back him up.

let's remember that Paul LePage was governor of Maine for 8 years, and Kris Kobach didn't miss by much. the GOP produces insane governors at a regular clip

they need to do way instain governor

The tradition in the USA is to peaceably abide by election results, no matter how suspicious or questionable the results may be, as long as the nominal winner is a representative of the Republican Party.

Otm

@realDonaldTrump
3 minutes ago

Washington Post got it wrong, as usual. The U.S. is charging 25% against 250 Billion Dollars of goods shipped from China, not 200 BD. Also, China is paying a heavy cost in that they will subsidize goods to keep them coming, devalue their currency, yet companies are moving to.....

@realDonaldTrump
3 minutes ago

....U.S. in order to avoid paying the 25% Tariff. Like Mexican companies will move back to the United States once the Tariff reaches the higher levels. They took many of our companies & jobs, the foolish Pols let it happen, and now they will come back unless Mexico stops the.....

@realDonaldTrump
3 minutes ago

...travesty that is taking place in allowing millions of people to easily meander through their country and INVADE the U.S., not to mention the Drugs & Human Trafficking pouring in through Mexico. Are the Drug Lords, Cartels & Coyotes really running Mexico? We will soon find out!

so let me get this straight. we will punish mexico for not solving our border problem by imposing tariffs that are good for the united states, because "mexican companies will move back to the united states once the tariff reaches the higher levels"...unless mexico solves our border problem? what?

those tariffs sure do sound like win-win-win-wins! you add them and you win, and you take 'em away and you win too! wow!

If we tariffed the rest of the world at 100% I'm pretty sure we would have all the money.

Because the other side don’t care to fight, do they folks? The Democratic Party don’t want to fight for democracy, it’s sad. That’s why I call them the Democrat party. They don’t like it, but that’s okay. That’s okay. We’re gonna keep calling them it anyway! But they don’t want to fight. Won’t fight for this big, beautiful democracy, and won’t fight for, with, their ...your big, beautiful GUNS. We love the second amendment. Some say the best amendment. But the Democrats ...don’t want you to have those guns. Want to take them away. So you won’t be able to fight them.

Other posters are much better at that than you

Matt Gaetz milkshaked outside town hall meeting in Pensacolahttps://t.co/APFuQmVHQQ

— jordan (@JordanUhl) June 1, 2019

shdn't have gone 2 the brew ha ha if he didn't want to get in a tilly

Wow, just saw where this month's title came from. This is truly the dumbest timeline.

Just in to say this thread title is sublime

good morning!

Mr. Sotosyn if you're nasty

Trump thinking of nominating a major lunatic to the Fed, who thinks it's Gosplan. She wants to hold a new Bretton Woods conference at Mar-a-Lago and create a gold-linked monetary system. Let's see how this flies with the big boys. https://t.co/MPEAN1DVes via @financialtimes

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) June 1, 2019

says it right there on the money though

ron paulbots should be pleased?

ha I thought that said God! Something now totally plausible

weren't stephen moore and herman cain also gold standard fans?

idk its hard to keep with all this bullshit and i have a masters in poli sci

Ron Paul is/was a fan.

A return to the gold standard's never going to happen. The economy would throw a piston.

Trump has pretty much been a daily illustration of what would happen if your crazy loud uncle at Thanksgiving were to become president.

Yep. And mine is dead

skim milk burn!

The Hill reports:

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) on Sunday said Democrats who support impeaching President Trump should “buy a spine” and do it. But he also said they’d regret it, pointing to polls that show a minority of voters back impeachment.

“Impeachment polls right up there with skim milk with the American people. But my advice to my Democratic friends is, if you want to do it, go hard or go home,” Kennedy said CBS’ “Face the Nation” Sunday. “Go to Amazon, buy a spine. If you’re not going to do it, let us get back to work.”

That's not a bad angle of attack.

Amazon has body parts now?

Only for Ultra-Super Prime subscribers.

Introducing Prime (TM) Rib

Skimmed milk is unamerican?

You can't drink skimmed milk and expect to have a functioning backbone everyone knows that.

o fuck trump is hot now, libs completely destroyed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8HCpCZUEAAmuCd.jpg

he’s wearing Eric as a skinsuit

The new visa application forms list a number of social media platforms and require the applicant to provide any account names they may have had on them over the previous five years.

https://www.apnews.com/c96a215355b242e58107c2125c18fc4a

sure fine totally okay

good morning!

Platform: I Love Music
Username: t✧✧@k✧✧.e✧✧

tim AT kfc.edu

how are the visa folks gonna know if i choose not to list a social media account? are they going to undertake a forensic search of every social media platform? how are they gonna know that in addition to my regular twitter handle under my own name i also have an alt where i share my detailed manifestoes on how best to cook and serve every member of trump's cabinet?

i'm sure google and facebook will be happy to help however they can

they just want an excuse to jail you when they find out you've an unreported ilx sockpuppet to 51 the usual suspects

I read that as Visa credit card. There is almost no way they can do a timely search for your social media unless you just suck at using the internet and have everything on full display. They are hoping you will give it all to them voluntarily.

i think this is probably intended more as a means to expand ways to later deport someone for submitting supposedly misleading/false documents or whatever bullshit.

exactly

or even remove your citizenship later

how are the visa folks gonna know if i choose not to list a social media account?

having talked to people who use a bunch of different data sources to aggregate potential customer data, I really assume anyone with enough money to buy bulk data can throw this stuff together

I guess if you've used a different account on a different device that doesn't use wifi, isn't paid for by any account linked to your name, doesn't have gps, has never logged into any website whatsoever other than that account, and uhhh maybe has never opened a web browser to go to anything other than the one site, you may be in the clear

This is why I tell people to never put their dob, pob or even full name on any type of social media website.

can't believe i'm gonna be denied entry to the states because the opsec around my marxist naruto slashfic tumblr wasn't watertight, smdh

Are they expecting to get links to all my long-forgotten livejournal accounts? even TSA don't deserve having to look through that

I had to work with Palantir once who was trying to gain access to a bunch of our databases of which I was one of the owners. They just wanted a datadump per the wishes of our company but there was absolutely no rationale about why they needed it or what they would use it for. We refused and eventually, eventually they were like "oh, we don't need it." It was kind of absurd.

Trump giving speech from Lincoln Memorial steps before fireworks and military flyovers was bad enough, but now of course they’re creating special ticketed only access area for his pals there. I had gone to DC fireworks the last few years, but gonna skip this. Code Pink Group is trying to get permission to fly baby T balloon. I doubt they’ll get approval

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/trump-plans-ticketed-access-area-for-vips-friends-and-family-at-july-4-celebration/2019/06/28/005fd56a-99a4-11e9-8d0a-5edd7e2025b1_story.html

Trump appeared to think

bullshit

gah, I wish the DC 4th fireworks were not awesome so that people would just stay home, but there will be crowds and there will be crowing.

maybe he'll lose an eye or a finger

Maybe somebody already linked this?

https://theintercept.com/2019/06/29/concentration-camps-border-detention/

good afternoon!

so Yam met Kim at the NK border and thanked him for not making him "look bad"

the new press secy got bruised in a security kerfuffle

Amazing video of @IvankaTrump trying to butt in to actual world leaders’ conversation and their unconcealable irritation. pic.twitter.com/WuZfWpQpgA

— Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites) June 30, 2019

there is one alternate universe out of billions where ivanka is a really cool and nice person despite her upbringing, and i feel sorry for her because she's placed in these insane situations where she has be around political leaders and pretend like she belongs. must be excruciating for her, in that alternative universe. in this one, though, she fakes it til she makes it and later is like 'i architected the fuck out of that greet and meet, j kush'

i guess she'll just have to settle for this universe, where she's smoking hot and her dad is the president :(

Time4FiftyOne

esby's not so much out-of-bounds as just annoying and inane. it would be like killing a flea.

annoying and inane

Oh, and I forgot to say "pointless and without redeeming value".

go screw, you dusty farmer's almanac

Let he who is without sin

/annoying and inane/

Oh, and I forgot to say "pointless and without redeeming value".

tbh yes they probably are just tolerating her in that video, and she does look awkward but this feels a lot like when we try to pretend Trump is "obviously miserable" in a picture where really he's just winding up for a sneeze or something.

esby = SB, do you see? He's askin' for it!

whatever happened to that guy ephpea?

Ahh good old Ephraim P Gilbert

wow i didn't know that the June 2019 politics thread was nasty

It's like esby is Paul Pierce's ass and we're all Michelle Beadle

One of these men is 5'7". The other claims to be 6'3".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-VIDAcWsAErVwy.jpg

wgas

Kim's on a hoverboard made of bones.

vaguely let down that kim wasn’t like ‘sure, i’ll meet you in the dmz. . . with an artillery shell’

Trump is tall
Kim wears lifts
jpg: who gives a shit

bc it’s funny to imagine the negotiations— sure, you can stand on a box, but you still have to be two inches shorter

i mean the thing he hates most about comey is having to look up at him

it's amazing to me that trump insulting the prince's wife before his visit to britain was only a month ago! the history of this era is gonna have to be like 48 volumes

Trump is good at headline-making, but he is rarely history-making.

Trump insulted the prince’s wife?
Finally something positive about him

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/donald-trump-meghan-markle-nasty-boris-johnson-good-prime-minister/index.html
who's gonna do july

I don't know how safe for work the title has to be, but "At the risk of stating the obvious, this is horse-sh*t" would be good.

At the risk of stating the obvious, this is horse-sh*t. https://t.co/9YpgVF7qEP

— Susan Rice (@AmbassadorRice) June 30, 2019

Fox used to rage about Obama being willing to meet with NK without preconditions. Trump goes for a photo op and he's a fuckin genius.

😐 pic.twitter.com/A8MM7Cxzf1

— Jim Swift (@JimSwiftDC) June 30, 2019

I don't know how safe for work the title has to be, but "At the risk of stating the obvious, this is horse-sh*t" would be good.

yeah, I was going to suggest "You know, there aren’t that many ways you’re going to get people to schools" but this is much better.