ok lets all shit our pants to something old: pre-2006 horror film thread

One of the witch movies in question was almost certainly Noita palaa elämään/The Witch/The Witch Returns to Life. The lead actress is mesmerizingly weird.

Could be.

Forgot to mention, Klaus Schulze does the Next Of Kin soundtrack.

the church: bonkers gialli on prime with a score alternately by goblin, keith emerson, and philip glass. shares more than a few qualities with prince of darkness but with no qualms about becoming a series of delightful and creative yet incoherently-stitched together setpieces; none of the subspaces in the church make any fucking sense and i like it that way. features one of the greatest deaths i’ve ever seen in horror (train sequence)

I don't remember I train sequence. Not sure if I still own it.

i described it poorly, it’s the scene where one of the subspaces of the church turns out to be a subway tunnel

i caught spookies on the roku channel b-movie tv and discovered it got the oral history treatment on the dissolve! https://thedissolve.com/features/oral-history/788-the-strange-saga-of-spookies/

baffling, incoherent, awesome movie, almost every shot is an excuse for a gross practical effect. as that piece reveals, its production was incredibly cursed (cw infant death)

Not Quite Hollywood: The Wild Untold Story Of Ozploitation - Early on I noticed the similarity to the extremely fun Electric Boogaloo: The Wild Untold Story Of Cannon Films and it is indeed the same director Mark Hartley (and I'm looking forward to his Machete Maidens Unleashed, about English language films made in Philippines).
I saw this on amazon prime and now I want the disc version for the extended interviews (I was led to this by Next Of Kin, which featured interviews from Not Quite Hollywood).
My one frustration with this was how it seemed like the Australian critics were just featured as snobs; perhaps the film can be forgiven for this because one of the two (was there more?) critics seems to play this up.

Sex comedies, action (particularly car films) and horror. I cant say it made me want to see many of the films (I've already seen several of the good ones like Age Of Consent, Wake In Fright, Picnic At Hanging Rock, Mad Max and Next Of Kin) but after many times ignoring peoples recommendations for Razorback (I generally don't get the appeal of animal attack films, they seem dumb), I want to see it now.
Interested in The Getting Of Wisdom, but it wasn't one of the films being pushed exactly, would have liked to see much more about the films critics actually liked.

Especially enjoyed Barry Humphries parts and the stories of how unpleasant Jimmy Wang Yu was to work with (I heard he was a massive crank but didn't know he was so abusive).

I saw Machete Maidens on a Quantas flight 7(?) years ago and loved it, so sought out Not Quite Hollywood which, while also great, didn't quite fit as well into my wheelhouse - but unlike you they did make me want to watch things I hadn't.

My brother recommended Not Quite Hollywood forever ago. I really need to see that, as I love the Cannon doc to bits.

Not Quite Hollywood was great.

Aldo- Well it did make me want to see Razorback and The Getting Of Wisdom. I've also never got around to Walkabout yet but that's another that the doc wasn't focused on.
Made me want to find out who Lesley Ann Warren is (turns out I remember her as the mother in Secretary).

I've always found Brian Trenchard Smith a likable presence on Trailers From Hell youtube channel so I would consider Dead End Drive-In and BMX Bandits. Night Of The Demons 2? Would be nice to see him get a bigger budget because he mostly seems to do action films.

It is difficult to muster much enthusiasm for the sexploitation films because there's usually only 10 minutes worth watching and there's so much competition. The first Fantasm was released on UK disc in 2010 and STILL heavily censored!

Next of Kin looks right up my alley.

Was really surprised to find "Wake in Fright" on Shudder, tbh, and re-watched it for the first time in many years since my Ozploitation phase during university. Great film, has aged quite well.

I'm watching Exorcist III *for the first time* and am thoroughly enjoying myself.

MY FAVORITE MOVIE

Finished the documentary about Island Of Doctor Moreau. I think that even if Richard Stanley had been kept on, there's a good chance Brando and Kilmer would have destroyed it anyway. It's a good warning about casting egomaniacs who might not get behind a film.

It doesn't really let you know quite how much Stanley has done afterwards, even if most of it is short films and scripts. I never finished Hardware because towards the last third it seemed really drawn out. I should see the directors cut of Dust Devil before Color Out Of Space comes out possibly the end of this year (Nicolas Cage too). Hope Stanley gets things back on track but I wonder if he has all the potential fans credit him with.

He's also got a segment in Theatre Bizarre which I've wary about because reviews were quite negative and Clark Ashton Smith was somehow uncredited.

I love the bit where he reveals he managed to get on screen in the end.

If you haven't seen The Otherworld, I highly recommend it (even if it does make clear he's more of a space case than you already thought).

Thanks. Someone else told me his other mystic doc White Darkness was their favorite. I wouldn't have guessed they'd be the stronger ones.

Kind of regret getting rid of my Hardware dvd because it had a bunch of short films I should have given a chance.

I could listen to his voice for quite a while.

Fields Of Nephilim really were a perfect fit for him.

read through a bunch of this thread recently, and was transported to moment from middle school when Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3 was on cable at a sleepover. as i remember it, it was a piece of shit. am i remembering properly?

also all the early talk of In the Mouth of Madness. love that movie, for the same reason that a lot of others love it— the long driving sequences, the dread that hangs over everything, even the sort of jokey parts.

didn't catch it above, but has anybody watched Deadbeat at Dawn, the Jim Van Bebber film that's on Shudder? i was obsessed with The Manson Family and My Sweet Satan when i was in college, as well as the preview for the never-made CHUNK BLOWER, but man, Deadbeat at Dawn is some really despicable shit. i liked it, particularly as a portrayal of rust belt desperation and depravity, but christ.

y'all next of kin totally blew my mind. i watched it twice in a row

immediately one of my favorite movies of all time

also all the early talk of In the Mouth of Madness. love that movie, for the same reason that a lot of others love it— the long driving sequences, the dread that hangs over everything, even the sort of jokey parts.

I hadn't really considered it before but it's kinda admirable what a nice balance ITMOM strikes between Carpenter's arch & goofy satirical side and his 'OMG the world is basically entirely fucking over now' side.

Brad, where'd you see it?

Glad you liked it Brad. Another thing I liked about it was how much tension they got out of the cube stacking scene.

Brad, where'd you see it?

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:10 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a new blu ray of it just came out, i took a chance

Glad you liked it Brad. Another thing I liked about it was how much tension they got out of the cube stacking scene.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, June 14, 2019 11:50 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the last thirty minutes were all incredible, ratcheting tension executed very simply and quietly. it also made me think of a lot of other horror movies i love, it's like they mashed up let's scare jessica to death and the haunting and messiah of evil and probably a few giallo films i haven't seen and next of kin came out. but i also love that it never releases itself completely into senselessness or dreaminess, it's a balancing act of "is this really happening? it's really happening" to the very end

They were also very wise in deleting the scenes they did.

Man, someone help me out. When I saw the name Next of Kin it made me think of some gloomy family drama/thriller from the '80s, about a son facing off against his mother's abusive boyfriend? Sort of in the moody vein of At Close Range. So I Google Next of Kin and I get some 1989 Patrick Swayze movie. Obviously it's not that one, I think, and then it comes to mind that maybe the movie I was thinking of was called Youngblood, so I googled that, and it's some Rob Lowe movie that *also* happens to feature Patrick Swayze. About hockey? Anyway, it's not that one either, but can anybody think of what movie I am thinking of? About a rebellious son in the C Thomas Howell mold who faces off against a stepfather or something?

It's odd that the preview for Next of Kin made me think of Bava's "Twitch of the Death Nerve/Bay of Blood." Maybe it's the wheelchair? All I know is that I fucking *adore* that Bava film and will watch anything remotely resembling it.

for a while i was thinking you were talking about that Patrick Swayze hicks vs. mobsters movie

The Stepfather? This Boy's Life?

xp

btw damn brad, you mentioning Messiah of Evil definitely makes me want to check out this, non-Swayze version of Next of Kin

xpost No, it wasn't either of them. It was def. a grim '80s movie, very sullen C. Thomas Howell or Kevin Dillon in a sleeveless sweatshirt sort of flick.

i'd put it up there with any ambiguous atmospheric '70s horror i love, whether messiah of evil, let's scare jessica to death, deathdream... it's that deep, that impressive xp

and also: oh god, it's actually scary

also love Deathdream *fist bump*

yes!!! it's incredible

Watched Dust Devil directors cut half way through, disc condition made it unwatchable any further on, previous owner must have been an animal. Not buying this again until a bluray comes out.

I watched madhouse
Pretty strong
Let's scare Jessica to death was even more amazing tho

Is that the Vincent Price one where he has a painted face?

I actually didn't even know about that madhouse! This one is 1981 about a troubled woman with a disfigured sister

I've never actually seen it but he looks cool in the photos.

Saw the trailer for the second American Horror Project box. I think I'll give this one a miss, just too expensive for what might be good but not really enough of my favored type.

Next of Kin now on Shudder...

And I will say, it had me on tenterhooks from about 30 minutes in to the end. Not as gory as I was expecting, which was a nice surprise.

Great soundtrack, too!

i rewatched next of kin AGAIN just bc it was on shudder, what a perfect movie

shudder really killed it with this recent crop of titles they just added

Some other things from the interview I didn't mention. Director says he hadn't seen The Shining at the time, was mostly inspired by Bertolucci (maybe mentioned Antonioni?), kept mentioning "Italian style" but didn't seem to be talking about Italian horror at all, I don't think he was particularly a horror fan, but he just did a horror film because the opportunity was there to make a film.

He said the script was on a deadline and he thought it could have been so much better. This ties into him saying that tight deadlines and quantity over quality are a big part of what killed the Australian film industry.

I'd add Tony Williams to list of directors I wish had directed a ton more, like Richard Blackburn (Lemora) and Juan López Moctezuma (Alucarda).

damn thank you for that info!

Machete Maidens Unleashed - I'm slightly disappointed by this but still enjoyed it well enough. Problem is how much of this is about Corman's productions and was in the Corman documentary (admittedly a year later) and covered extensively elsewhere.
Exploitation of Filipino crews could have been handled more sensitively, although some interviewees are laughing more in disbelief than anything else about it. John Landis is the only person to call any of it racist. Was glad to see some films with more homegrown Filipino cast and crew, several of them interviewed.
Oddly enough, Landis spends most of his interview deflating the films discussed and the claims made about them.

Bought this, Not Quite Hollywood and the Cannon documentary on Umbrella bluray and for the extras I mostly stuck to the interview footage.
Machete Maidens Unleashed extended interviews are perhaps as good as anything in the film, Marlene Clark (if I remember correctly, sorry if I got the wrong actress) recounts a particularly horrible filming experience and Chris Mitchum's experiences filming in korea sound like action movie plots.
In the Not Quite Hollywood extras, I was pleased to see there is indeed an extended interview with critic Bob Ellis, in which he does have some nice things to say and unlike you might expect (being unfamiliar with him as I was), he totally hates Peter Weir (he explains why) and has some hate to give other art films.

Razorback - Yes, it is stylish, quite punishing towards the good guys but I'm slightly hesitant to recommend that much. Could have used a better script and there's a bit too much cutting around at the end. Bonus extended scenes are even more gory. Another Umbrella bluray with extensive extras.

Really hope Mark Hartley keeps making these documentaries. Don't know how far he could take it or if he'd be willing to go into other languages because I didn't know how much more mileage you could get from widely English speaking territories. India next, please?

Watched Russian witch/folktale movie VIY on Shudder and loved it — not sure I understand it entirely but visually noteworthy/memorable and pretty well dubbed. Amazing sets/design etc. Would recommend if you haven’t already seen it and like those colorized photos of Russian village people from the 19th c + folk horror

I LOVE the last 15-20 minutes but not so sure about the rest. Not sure why there aren't more films like that, a lot of bigger budget Russian films look way cheaper somehow.
I assume you talking about the 60s version and not the one with cgi and Charles Dance?