'Rambo' - C or D?

Interested to check out that thrillist piece tho. I saw Rambo IV in the theater but all I remember was a part where he shot a guy with a giant machine gun and the guy basically disintegrated, dont even remember what continent it took place on

xpost I didn't mean the movie was complicated, just the Afghanistan scenario.

I don't believe in guilty pleasures but I make an exception for the Rambo movies - bar First Blood, easily the best and least problematic entry in the series; contra his first post, Soto's follow-up implies (correctly) that it's not politically coherent/consistent enough to qualify as "right wing pulp." The rest are progressively uglier "do we get to win this time?" fantasies. I'm not proud of myself for liking them, even if "Rambo: First Blood Part II" is some kind of camp classic. But I do. God help me, I'm even looking forward to the new one.

can't believe they didnt call this one Tired Blood

looking fwd to Armond's rave

They should just call it "Blood."

"Blood Transfusion"

“Rocky Blood”

Wise Blood's already taken.

wow so last blood is absolutely fucking vile, huh

The first one's politics are bat shit. Yes, the Veterans were Spit On, but the police chief (Brian Dennehy!) treats Rambo like a hippie, so the director Ted Kotcheff has it both ways.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Batshit and hilarious. If I catch it on TV I always watch it.

First Blood is great. Haven't seen the others and haven't felt a compulsion to.

This, on the other hand: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambo:_The_Force_of_Freedom

first blood is great

iii is incredible in its entirely unique mix of greased-muscle homoerotica and full-throated support for the brave fighters of the mujahideen

last blood is a sickening display of anti-mexican torture porn which ends with a gang of drug lords being murdered in rambo’s backyard viet cong-style network of boobytrapped underground tunnels

What I love about it is how a product of the US military completely completely goes off on civilians and police.

Similar to Mr.X's monologue in JFK. The same network trained to commit imperialist war crimes in country after country turning in on itself.

murdered AND mutilated i should have said in that last entry

Was rewatching the first Rambo, which I've always liked fine, but I could never figure out why the cops in this small town don't like him so much. What is their problem?

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, September 1, 2016 12:14 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

acab

long hair

First Blood is a masterpiece

anti cop
anti military

watched the first three this week because i was sick and ii is directed by my dude george p cosmatos so i figured, why not? i fully fell in love first blood, it's a reverse horror movie that takes place largely in a forest wreathed in fog, and it's so mournful and sad. low body count weighs weird considering what comes after, iirc only a few dogs and a cop die, and the cop's death is an accident out of self-defense. small town sheriff's department on a power trip seems completely aligned with reality to me, even if the actual politics animating it are way more opaque

first blood part ii is such wild fascist wish fulfillment that i just imagine he hallucinates this entire film during his breakdown in the first film. it fuckin rules though. exploding arrows and a fuckin helicopter chase... cinema

iirc Rambo kills a helicopter with a rock

iirc only one person dies in the first Rambo!

the scene in ii where sly grabs the microphone and says "murdock... i'm coming to get you" has to be one of the greatest sequences in action movie history

george p. cosmatos also directed sly in cobra which, like first blood ii, is a total fascist fever dream and a movie i love dearly for how little it seems to take place in reality

^ OTM on every count.

Thank u for reminding that Cosmatos directed Part II, guess I need to see that real soon.

Cobra is one of them movies I eagerly picked up in the video store in the 80's but barely remember anything about it other than chewing a cocktail stick or a match makes you nuff hard!

he cuts a pizza with scissors too

lol I remember that bit now!

tbf Jamie Oliver probably does the same

F.I.S.T. might also be prime for a rewatch seeing as though I've watched The Irishman about 5 times now

Cobra is an amazing exhibition of try-hard badass behavior which is a) uniformly weird and b) almost always performed for an audience of one so who are you even trying to impress rn, Cobretti

Also: Cobretti. Again: Cobretti.

Is this a film that could have had a different legacy if a different director and star had been picked.
Trying to think how good First blood was as a book. I think it is a scenario that has been replayed elsewhere and not given birth to a bunch of progressively dumb gung ho sequels. Drifter turning out to be much more capable of looking after themself than first thought.
Are there any Darwin awards handed out to people who've picked up on weapon use from this series.

Yes, the Veterans were Spit On, but the police chief (Brian Dennehy!) treats Rambo like a hippie, so the director Ted Kotcheff has it both ways.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2019 bookmarkflaglink

weren't a lot of vets also hippies? and hippies also vets?

Disappointed that no one itt mentioned the depressingly sad First Blood end credits song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTPO3Q5DJrE

Best thing about Cobra is that it's a Christmas movie.

And of course James Cameron wrote Part II, right?

Cobra, I don't think I've ever seen it, but boy do I remember the poster and tagline. I wonder what action movie was the first to use laser scopes?

The 'get back to 'Nam and set s#1t right' genre started a few years before Rambo II.

Rambo II was made because Uncommon Valor and Missing in Action made a s#1t ton of money.

Best thing about Cobra is that it's a Christmas movie.

― in a bar, under the (seandalai), Friday, May 28, 2021 5:17 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is also one of my favorite things about first blood

The second best thing about Cobra is that the villains are axe-clanking quasi-satanist NWO-ers.

The third best thing about Cobra is the trivia that this movie was somehow adapted from the same source material:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/a3/a8/f1a3a80cef7a342ff92c1ee71aa2ac52.jpg

https://thedissolve.com/features/forgotbusters/749-cobra-gave-the-1980s-the-dirty-harry-knockoff-it-d/

you have a life preserver? ... 'cause your french fries are drowning in there