thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

Now, you may disagree with this, and I don't blame you, but I find it interesting to read about how others experience the music I love (or loathe), as there is something fascinating about the sense of estrangement it can impel.

So I find it quite striking that you would describe the record in ontological terms (it *is* or *isn't* this or that), because your description is the furthest thing from my own time with the album. One of us may be wrong sub speciae aeternitatis, sure, it's not impossible, but I wouldn't dare venture that far.

the national are def up there w/the worst bands i've ever heard, i enjoyed when that one poster called them 'featureless' like 8 times in one or two posts a little while ago because that is smack dab otm. no clue what the new album sounds like but i assure you it's awful

it's good music for sad dads

i'm sorry i keep ruining this thread everyone but i'm v tired of taste edgelordiness on this board

someone whose opinions are 2edgy4u

I'm not a dad but I'm a complete sucker for sad melodies so maybe I wouldn't dislike this record so much if it lived up to the band's reputation for melancholy. Once again, lyrics are nearly meaningless to me, so that might explain why.

Not a big national fan but they don’t evoke my loathing like “vampire weekend” does

all 'indie' music is just an absolute affront

sad dad music to me is Dan Fogelberg and “leader of the band”, which my dad would sadly listen to. (I have no opinion on the national)

all 'indie' music is just an absolute affront

― lumen (esby), Thursday, May 30, 2019 3:53 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

brave

Wtf is an edge lord?

― calstars

the entire genre of "power electronics"

if imago is going to come back to this thread time and again like a dog to his vomit i'm at least going to try to mix it up with my own mean-spirited complaints every once in a while

sad dad music to me is Dan Fogelberg and “leader of the band”, which my dad would sadly listen to. (I have no opinion on the national)

― omar little

wait, "leader of the band" the lewis taylor song? because i like that one.

it was smart to draw all these dudes in here, someone close the place up like one of those Ghostbusters traps

so you can have your little anodyne paradise

This is the quarantine, the sanatorium where the afflicted undertake scream therapy to overcome their critical condition.

indeed

As a side note, 'If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all' is a proverb that has very little currency in certain other cultures, where people are subconsciously encouraged to express their opinion even (at times especially) when it is negative.

by "certain other cultures" do you mean the entirety of the internet

I mean longstanding cultures where that happens irl as well.

Btw, what's so awful about power electronics?

Aside from the fact that it's awful in the archaic sense.

This thread is fairly polite considering how much totally shit music gets an easy ride on ILX these days.

This is a safe space for haterz, so let it flow.

Me, every time I see that D0ja C4t thread pop up:

[insert appropriate meme]

sorry, i was just making a joke. i think it's great that this thread exists and that anyone is free to hate The National. it's statements like "all 'indie' is an affront to humanity" that annoy me, and there's been lots of that in here the past few days.

but, as Brad said, i can also stay away.

all 'indie' is an affront to humanity

Obvious troll is obvious and shouldn't be fed, etc.

i think that my bias is really more against bands like the National and Vampire Weekend, etc., and certain other groups producing inoffensive pap. i like plenty of independent punk and metal, and continue to be obsessed with certain electronic music, so it's mostly that what is heavily marketed and lauded as "indie" just sounds like garbage to me. like fourth-rate David Byrne sans any interesting lyrics.

inoffensive pap

certainly seems to offend some...

I guess it could be argued “indie” as a genre in terms of marketing has been co-opted by this “Morning Becomes Eclectic” NPR type of very basic competent morning commute dadrock.

10 Best Albums of 2017 to Pump Up Your Productivity Over the Holiday Break - You won't be disappointed by any of these albums.

ilm likes shit indie now, currently and retrospectively. the same need to feel clever hasn't gone away so that's the board.

i didn't say "to humanity", garbage indie is an affront TO ME. eat a fuckin steak some of you

tbh some of the shit people like now isn't even indie, not that defending the word is worth any effort. just shit commercial rock of the kind that the entire board would have laughed at when people who actually follow pop and alternative music, of many kinds, were the dominant voices.

"fourth-rate David Byrne sans any interesting lyrics" seems like a solid take imo

"“Morning Becomes Eclectic” NPR type of very basic competent morning commute dadrock" also OTM

I have never knowingly heard The Strokes, Interpol, The Arcade Fire, The National, The 1975, or Vampire Weekend, and I plan to keep it that way

There's some good music in there, but the overall mellowing of rock music has been a disaster overall.

Feel free to mentally drop one "overall"

i'd say The Strokes are worth a listen

inoffensive pap

certainly seems to offend some...

― Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Friday, May 31, 2019 9:40 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it offends me insomuch as it takes no risks. it isn't sexy, it isn't surprising, it isn't riotous, it isn't weird, it isn't catchy. it's just competent, as others have said above. that should be offensive.

i'd say The Strokes are worth a listen

the same need to feel clever hasn't gone away so that's the board.

^^ real life lol

widescreen big emotions rock music for grinning fans holding their arms aloft eyes closed for the perfect instagram pic is a genre i'm generally not down with, which is hypocritical because i like U2.

it offends me insomuch as it takes no risks. it isn't sexy, it isn't surprising, it isn't riotous, it isn't weird, it isn't catchy. it's just competent, as others have said above. that should be offensive.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, May 31, 2019 5:45 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The hugeness of “indie” as a genre/marketing category/whatever inherently make broad generalizations like this silly.

Like idk what commonalities you can find between something like Liars or Deerhoof and something like Vampire Weekend but if you’re a hater then you’re a hater

lol brimstead, I'm on your side man

xp I don’t think the “indie” haters are taking about “indie rock”

I'm an edge Lorde.

some xposts to voodoo chili: i'm not talking about Liars, Old Time Relijun, or whatever other bands like that. post 2004 or so, there became a huge divide in terms of what can be described as "indie" and what the industry peddled as "indie."

i like The Mountain Goats, Oneida, and a bunch of other shit from that time. hell, i still listen to GGD, and blast Excepter on the regular.

but every band i mentioned is a far cry from the NPR and commercial ready stuff that is regularly called "indie" these days.