THE FUTURE IS FILMIC EJACULATIONS: The ILX Film Poll (for 2018 viewings) Voting Thread - Ballots Due Friday June 21st

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more of a 2019 release but i found hansen-love's maya excruciating

devvvine, Thursday, 30 May 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

Blaze sucked? That’s too bad

Heez, Thursday, 30 May 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I was just about to watch that one.

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

my worst of '18 is probably the Norwegian-German Gavagai... a fave of both Richard Brody and the Danish Troll, as if I wasn't warned.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

I'd like to be a contrarian and say that You Were Never Really Here was the worst movie I saw last year, but I somehow sat through all of Ready Player One.

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

Which is on the lower reaches of my top 24 list because I live to shove Spielberg down ILX's throat.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

i'm with you on Sorry 2 Bother flappy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

I generally only go and see films I think I'll like, but Suspiria, 3 Billboards and Downsizing were all big 2018 misses for me

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

Just the thought of a guadagnino 3 hour suspiria makes me crave an early night so I didn’t see it

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

I bet two of Ward's would have been strong contenders to place on a Worst list last year, due to US release dates

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

i will absolutely be voting for The Humanity Bureau as well as several other Cage movies (yeah spiderman and mandy aren't unpopular) and I urge you all to watch it and do the same (unless you truly have no stomach for a trainwreck, because it is one of those)

i've yet to watch his movie Between Worlds but I will and I doubt it won't make my list at this point too

km not doin typos anymore (Will M.), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

I have at least three, maybe four 2018 Cage releases on my ballot

Sorry To Bother You was no 5 Million Ways To Kill A CEO, but I love its fifty-year-old debut-filmmaker GO FOR IT energy

i doun't get the Tadpole thing, sic, but one is aesthetically a long film, the other is not

shot on turn-of-the-century DV, looks like VHS

Eight Hours is a TV show at the end of the day though, I don't know why CC banded the episodes together on their release, it is not a long film. Aesthetically it is cinematic but you could say the same for, idk, Atlanta or something. Even Girls. But Eight Hours was made for television and the 5 episodes aired separately in Germany.

you'll never convince me that this wasn't a cinematic film that I saw in a university lecture hall as school holiday babysitting programming theatre

anyway I know it was new to USA in 2018 and it did screen in marathon sessions here. But this is slippy territory, no?

Twin Peaks didn't just leap into the high ranks of the poll last year bcz Gukbe made an exception for it: it was because lots of people thought it was wonderful, filmic, one of the best-realised expressions of its main creator's auteuric vision through his whole career, genuinely one of the best viewing experiences of the year, and worth voting for despite in no way being intended to watch in one 18-hour stretch.*

People who saw them might vote for Eight Hours Don't Make or Personal Problems this year, or they might not. I strongly doubt that there will be enough of them that we need to, say, handwring over the fact that one episode of the new Twilight Zone is having a single festival screening this week in a converted-to-B&W version, and therefore we're opening a floodgate that will fill next year's poll with CBS All Access streaming episodes.

As someone who gets ludicrously pissy legitimately frustrated with Americans people starting single-choice button polls about musical albums without the correct tracklisting, I'm fine saying that the looseness of ballot polls is a feature not a bug, consensus surprises in results are enormous fun, yes you'll be throwing your vote away, but it's preferential ballots, so you still have 34 more, and we're just a handful of dickheads pissing about on a message board. There are no grand standards being threatened even if one person votes for a Breaking Bad episode with good cinematography.

If you're participating in a poll of the year's best films and you've seen only a handful of that year's movies, you shouldn't vote -- that's my argument fuiud

I never used to vote because not enough good / foreign / arthouse films get released in Australia at all in the C21st; now that I know how impossible it is to even vaguely keep up with what's available in the US, I'm all for anyone who really liked ten movies out of what they saw in a year backing their own judgement.



as far as worst films of 2018 go, for your consideration:

reminder that "worst" covers Netflix as well as cinema releases




* respect knux to anyone who did shotgun the whole thing on DVD in 2018. knux withdrawn if you took toilet breaks during the Roadhouse songs: pissing between disc changeover ONLY

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 30 May 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

I enjoy that I trolled morbs into watching Gavagai, because I have no idea what it is. Sorry Morbs. Unless by 'Danish troll' you mean LvT.

Frederik B, Thursday, 30 May 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

xp the roadhouse songs were among the best scenes!

Dan S, Thursday, 30 May 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

i'm with you on Sorry 2 Bother flappy

it was better than Spike Lee's mysteriously Oscared cop show

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 May 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

haven't seen KKKlansman yet.
I'm a big fan of Boots; the movie just got away from him and fell apart in the second act then REALLY fell apart in the third act.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 30 May 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

the equines were fine with me. even in the first act, the jokes weren't landing consistently.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 May 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link

I really liked the scene from Roma that you showed in the first post

Dan S, Friday, 31 May 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link

then you wake up and see drool on your T-shirt.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2019 01:06 (four years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Friday, 31 May 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link

I know you guys aren't enamored with it but I think it was a lovely film and it's going to be high on my list

Dan S, Friday, 31 May 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link

I still haven't seen Ash Is Purest White or Transit. It looks like both were put into limited release in the US in March 2019

Dan S, Friday, 31 May 2019 01:29 (four years ago) link

also The Wild Pear Tree didn't released in the US until 2019

Dan S, Friday, 31 May 2019 01:36 (four years ago) link

didn't = wasn't

Dan S, Friday, 31 May 2019 01:40 (four years ago) link

Transit will be one of my 2109 faves for sure

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 31 May 2019 01:55 (four years ago) link

It’s good to plan ahead.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 31 May 2019 02:43 (four years ago) link

okay, make that 2019 then.

On my "still to see" list culled from critic's faves, I have two that i haven't seen anyone discuss on ilx and that i can't find via streaming or even less reputable means. Anybody know anything about "Liyana" or "A Bread Factory"?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 May 2019 03:11 (four years ago) link

Roma barely avoided making my worst list. And it killed me to be on the same page as Soto In this case.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Friday, 31 May 2019 03:35 (four years ago) link

22 July was the only movie I found ethically repulsive this year, usually there's at least two

flappy bird, Friday, 31 May 2019 04:14 (four years ago) link

Funny thing is there was another film this year about the same day, 'Utøya: July 22' and it's even worse.

Frederik B, Friday, 31 May 2019 07:30 (four years ago) link

i've had Madeline's Madeline out of the library for 4-6 weeks and sooooooo don't wanna watch it.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:13 (three days ago)

I started watching this last night and I lasted about 10 minutes. I turned it after the scene where shes dancing in a sea turtle costume. Insufferable.

. (Michael B), Friday, 31 May 2019 07:35 (four years ago) link

Haven't seen enough terrible stuff to do a top5 worst of the year but I highly doubt anything mentioned here could be worse than Carol Morley's Out Of Blue.

Stuff I voted for that I fear won't get much shine: Simon Amstell's Benjamin, that Mark Cousins thing on female directors, the M.I.A. documentary.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link

I thought the first act in Ash Is Purest White was almost perfect, not so much the second and third ones - but still immensely enjoyed it overall.

calzino, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link

So glad this is happening! I sent my ballot.

Everyone should try to see Zama (if it qualifies as 2018 for you), I Am Not a Witch (ditto), and Happy as Lazzaro before voting!

Cherish, Friday, 31 May 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link

Happy as Lazzaro was kind of subtle I thought, it took a couple of viewings for me to appreciate. Both The Wonders and Happy as Lazzaro have a pastoral quality that I really like

Dan S, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link

not just in the settings but in the super-calm, relaxed style of filmmaking

I read that Rohrwacher in particular was really taken with Mati Diop's Atlantics as a member of the Cannes jury, I'm looking forward to seeing that film

Dan S, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link

Lazzaro reminded me of Pasolini

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link

have been meaning to make my way through Pasolini's films, so far I've only gotten to his first film Accattone

Dan S, Saturday, 1 June 2019 00:19 (four years ago) link

disagree with all of you who disliked Suspiria. It was a beautiful film, visually and thematically

Dan S, Saturday, 1 June 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link

are we treating the mule (a good film people should watch) as an 18 or 19 release?

devvvine, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

limited US release in Dec '18 good enough for me

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

repping double eastwood, triple hong

devvvine, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

i saw it on 12/30/18

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

ending the year on a high

devvvine, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

well i saw The Thin Man on 35mm on NYE but The Mule was surprisingly okay. at least compared to Sully, the last Clint movie I saw, which was dysfunctional on every level.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

. (Michael B)
Posted: 31 May 2019 at 08:35:12
i've had Madeline's Madeline out of the library for 4-6 weeks and sooooooo don't wanna watch it.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:13 (three days ago)

I started watching this last night and I lasted about 10 minutes. I turned it after the scene where shes dancing in a sea turtle costume. Insufferable.


I was unsure of it at this stage but nah. It’s extraordinary

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Saturday, 8 June 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

And just a reminder that Josephine Decker's top-three worthy Madeline's Madeline should still be on MUBI in most territories.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I would vote for it next year at near the bottom of the list, or maybe not at all. Its a passably interesting film around issues of mental health, race. It starts a conversation around how to film mental health issues but a lot of it just doesn't land. Decker's film is often good, just wish the story was better than the goings on in a theatre group. The contours of the relationship between the director of the group and Madeleine weren't sketched out as much as I wanted to. Then again this is a film that avoids conversation (perhaps that's part of the point as the film is often seen from Madeline's POV), but that does leave gaps.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

I love to see these polling, especially The Heiresses

Touch Me Not (Pintile, 2018)
Elephant Sitting Still (Hu Bo, 2018)
The Heiresses (Marcelo Martinessi, 2017)

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

Madeline's Madeline is even worse than i'd feared. Cinematic diverticulitis.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 June 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

as far as films about a youngster's pov, got much more out of nervous translation

devvvine, Sunday, 9 June 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link


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