Morrissey is a racist

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very stupid (la-di-da da-da)
very stupid (la-di-di-daaa)

wins, I think this could work

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Thursday, 30 May 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

why is it always the worst ones who have hair?

Moz pretty clearly tolerates a certain amount of immigration to his scalp.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 30 May 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

Irish Hair, English Arsehole

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 May 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

Yes, but was he a racist?

pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

Was, is, and ever shall be

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 30 May 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

The past is a different country, but Morrissey is still racist there.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 30 May 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

I just feel bad for all the people who named their cats Steven Meowrissey

mick signals, Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

He has tweeted someone's blog post in defense of himself. It's all about veganism and shaking things up, you idiots:

In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection. He has long expressed how he is tired of the same two political groups running the game again and again, he wants to see a shake up in politics, as many of us do. Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds).

It goes on.

https://www.tremr.com/Fiona-Dodwell/the-guardian-and-the-morrissey-vendetta

Sam Weller, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link

“racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:30 (four years ago) link

Any actual Muslims support this non-racist, non-Islamophoboc party?

The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link

so wait, morrissey's argument here is literally "hitler was a vegetarian"?

what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:45 (four years ago) link

Hitler was a lesbian.

The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

Some guy named 4chan said Hitler did nothing wrong.

pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link

Also, can we start a new thread titled 'Morrissey is a fascist'?

pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

He could say Hitler was right to kill the Jews and legions of his fans would defend him and claim he's misunderstood.

The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

... and that's no joke btw.

The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link

what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?

Charming man

Sam Weller, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link

TS: Steven Patrick Morrissey vs Mikko Aspa

pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:09 (four years ago) link

Godwin himself approves a common sense exception to invoking his law when ppl are discussing actual confirmed white supremacists tbfttl

By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.

— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Monday, 3 June 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link

so pleased to finally meet you Mike...I've invoked your name countless times on message borads over the decades....

calzino, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it

Who asked you?

The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party

this might be the dumbest sentence I've ever seen

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 3 June 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link

Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of Darth Vader stems from accusations that he is either “a sith" or “anti-jedi” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-jedis openly support his reign of terror)

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 June 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

Defensive Morrissey Fans Take Gold In Mental Gymnastics

“Morrissey supporters are passionate enough to weather anything he says — they will make a quick Facebook post denouncing him, but still excitedly buy a ticket to see him live just minutes later,” said panel member Lorena Bosko. “I mean, less than two years ago, he victim-blamed Kevin Spacey’s accusers, criticized multiculturalism, and voiced his support of Brexit, all in the same interview… and his last album still charted!”

...

At press time, the ICPF announced that the mental gymnastics silver medal was awarded to fans of Chris Brown for the third year in a row, while the fans of Jake Paul were disqualified for all being under 16 and therefore too young for consideration.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link

Eh, I don't see any real contradiction in denouncing someone's actions or comments and still appreciating their artistic work.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

Yes, worse to defend his comments and actions - which plenty of them do.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

This should put any accusations to rest. https://youtu.be/tuEwsB_7Nm0

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

I still think this thread should be renamed "Morrissey's a racist, Morrissey's a racist, la la la la, la la la la.."

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

omg that dude's channel is ridiculous

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

long live buff correl

boobie, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

Confirmed:

Morrissey rethinks the personal and political power of pop music on California Son. https://t.co/QJSneKudaC #Morrissey #BobDylan #BryanFerry

— armond white (@3xchair) June 5, 2019

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

oh armondpaws

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

"Defending the recent controversy roused by performing his covers while wearing a pro-Brexit “For Britain” badge, political artist Morrissey recently insisted that"

It is not a "pro-Brexit" badge, it's a "pro-racism" badge. Nice try though Armand.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

describing 'national front disco' as 'uniquely stirring' is some god-tier trolling

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection.

want to vote for a party with a vegetarian leader? at the last uk general election, you had jeremy corbyn, tim farron and jonathan bartley to choose from and the last of whom is i think now vegan. the green party had explicit animal welfare policies in their manifesto. the labour party have a vegan mp (kerry mccarthy). pretending that amw is a lone voice for animals in uk politics is total bollocks

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

There was some Animal Welfare party dropping leaflets 'round my area and they were explicitly anti-Brexit because they believe animal rights legislation will suffer w/o EU restrictions.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

yes, that too

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

i dunno guys, i get this horrible nagging feeling that morrissey might actually be a little bit racist

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

and also that his stance against non-vegetarians is subject to negotiations: Dave Bowie got a black look, TommyYargMcSweeney gets a mild shake of head.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

milkshake on the head surely?

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

doesn't sound like Morrissey, no.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

a milkshake on the head
well, a nation turns its back and gags

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

I don't know if anyone else saw this, but there was a BBC Four documentary on recently which was examining fandom/tribalism etc. in music since rock'n'roll began. Eventually the subject turned to The Smiths and how they touched those who felt like outsiders or marginalised, and two incredibly devoted Smiths/Morrissey fans were interviewed and showed off their collection of memorabilia. One was a black woman who found inspiration in The Smiths and moved to Manchester and decided to aspire to university even though she initially didn't feel capable of it. Another guy was of Asian descent and showed off his setlists/pictures of him with Morrissey/autographs etc.

I'm guessing that this was filmed quite some time back, so the issue of Morrissey's racism wasn't touched upon, but I wouldn't be surprised if these fans felt more than a little crushed or even betrayed by Morrissey's post-2004 actions.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

Or maybe they'd find some way to justify it.

DT, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful

You're the One for Me, Fatty

Everyone Ultimately Prefers Their Own Race

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 26, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link

Asked by Rayner why he has not sued The Guardian, who were among the titles to publish critical articles about him in the aftermath, Morrissey said: “As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”


This is one guy who deserves a milkshaking
Later, he added: “The Guardian have pestered and relentlessly harassed musicians in my life urging them not to work with me again[…] In these days of casual knife crime and hurling of acid, you’d expect The Guardian to maintain a certain careful morality. But no. If I suffered physical harm as a direct result of the Guardian’s tyranny, you can imagine cheers and champagne exploding through their offices… it chills the blood. The Guardian fully believes it is a political party.”


Lol

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

Just because you're paranoid...

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

“As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”
reading this as "even his British libel lawyers are telling him it's not worth suing as he doesn't have a case."

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

not so dapper now are we

Left, Saturday, 5 November 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

What a dickhead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oqS-8voPFc

lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link

If this were the "Morrissey is a dickhead" thread it would be even longer and more disparaging.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link

maybe he saw a chinese person in the audience

akm, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

the band had to go tell the crowd? you incredible wuss

StanM, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

sick of himself, at long last

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

He needs to retire in Florida

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

This is the funniest thing Morrissey has done in years

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

the singer was "too old" on stage

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

CNN mobile has these two stories very close together and it’s killing me:

https://imgur.com/a/Ss4Jprv

epistantophus, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

^I lol'd

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Morrissey's tour manager shared emails with me showing a Secret Service official from the Protective Intelligence Division reached out in November 2017 to arrange an intv with the singer after he said he'd kill Donald Trump "for the safety of humanity"

2/https://t.co/aZWpUKv8Zu pic.twitter.com/LPClQ7O0RO

— Jason Leopold (@JasonLeopold) January 18, 2023

ufo, Thursday, 19 January 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link

don't make me like morrissey again

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 19 January 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link

I know, right???

castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:08 (one year ago) link

there's a little yin in every yang

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 19 January 2023 06:02 (one year ago) link

Probably related to Trump's diet rather than his politics

the billy sherwood of trad jazz (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 January 2023 09:28 (one year ago) link

"bloke thinks he can get away w/ serving McDonald's, not on my watch"

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

Trump is often used by terrible garbage ppl as someone to distance themselves from to convince themselves and perhaps others that they are not actually terrible garbage people.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 19 January 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Zurich is stained.

Chris L, Monday, 29 January 2024 16:37 (two months ago) link


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