Rolling Metal 2019

Any thoughts on the new Deathspell Omega? I've followed them since the beginning but something clicked (or broke) with me on this one and I can't stand them. Sold off my entire discography in the last week. As mentioned upthread, I may just be done with dodgy BM. The music just isn't enough to engage with bad politics.

I haven't gotten around to it yet but I've always found them to be somewhat overrated (except for Paracletus) so there's no emotional connection to reassess on my part.

The Big Brave LP is awesome btw.

Parts of BB remind me of like Fushitsusha or C. Brotzmann Massaker or something. Very good.

Had my first listen to the DSO tonight. The music's good but it's hard to get over the feeling that Paracletus was their peak and they're never going to do anything that interesting again. Anyone uh read the lyrics to this one?

I don't know if my mood changes significantly between the two different times I spend listening to the Big Brave, but I thought the first three tracks were amazing but the last two really didn't grab me.

Frankly terrifying:

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/slipknots-corey-taylor-says-he-blew-out-his-left-testicle-while-singing/

how is that even possible?! by "fucking around" does he mean he was prancing in a field of scissors?

he was just joking

Listening to the new Deathspell Omega while looking at the lyrics, and while they're definitely from a position I don't agree with - they conflate basically every political movement there is - I don't think they're 'dodgy'. I honestly think it's pretty brilliant, not really fascist, just absolutist in the Sadean, Bataillean, Nietszchean sense. I like them a lot more than what was going on on 'The Synarchy of Molten Bones', which was... muddy, and could easily be seen as dodgy. I mean:

The mere existence of conflicting opinions means that the Truth has yet to triumph. Diversity is an outrage, freedom of thought will be terminated. Everything is a lie but that which we feed you, believe me. If your thoughts collide with what we say, these thoughts can not be yours. We will rip your mouth open and stuff you with Truth, like a goose. The Truth will blossom in the end, be it over your swollen corpse

new Darkthrone is v satisfying

^^^ yes it is

I'm really liking Bethlehem's Lebe dich leer. Onielar's vocals are right up my alley – she is a thespian of pure despair.

I see they've been around since 1991. How is the rest of their discography?

I countersign DSO, Darkthrone and Bethlehem, too. (And I had no idea that Bethlehem's (and Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult's) singer was female, which both doesn't matter and is interesting.)

i had no idea she was in Bethlehem, can only help them imo.

pomenitul just to help very slightly: the early Bethlehem stuff is great, kinda black metal and doom in equal measures. Dark Metal is my favorite but check out Dictius Te Necare if you like absolutely unhinged vocal performances.

Thanks GP!

There are a lot of incredible female vocalists on the extreme metal front at the moment. See also: Turia, Xenoblight, Venom Prison.

Xenoblight is a name I keep running across, gonna check 'em out. Already love VP!

Unsure what to make of the new DsO. Ignoring the political ambiguities for a second (and I'd say, having read the lyrics, that it's probably fine, albeit crazed), the music is this kind of impressive wash that I can't really latch onto. It feels like punishment. I know it's black metal and all but there's no sense of ritual, of incantation or magic here - it's didactic in sound as well as content. You WILL suffer. You WILL behold the incessant towers of sound. I'm aware that coming from a Jute Gyte fan, this may sound somewhat hypocritical, but there's a wit and a sense of surrender to mathematics and technology that somehow sublimes the latter act into something bewildering and Other - this simply feels like a bunch of pissed-off humanities professors inflicting their revenge on the idiotic world. While I would agree with much of their analysis, and even their methods, I don't necessarily want revenge - I want transcendence. There's only so much fast-fingered atonal rage I can listen to before I wonder how else these ideas can be approached, and how else this amount of musical talent and ingenuity can be manifested.

I haven't listened to it yet but your assessment echoes my own experiences with their previous albums.

I kinda think 'atonal rage' is exactly what I want from black metal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Or hatred, it's supposed to be hateful. I've been really delving into the satanic trilogy, including all the eps, and they're much more faceted than this, filled with allusions to Bataille and Hegel and Pascal, coopting so much of catholic thought and ritual. It's just a more interesting subject. But as far as political black metal goes, I'm really impressed by it. It's absolutely raging and hateful and out for blood, and I'm honestly kinda impressed that it still doesn't feel fascist, you know? I wasn't sure it could be done...

Having just heard The Furnaces of Palingenesia for the first time, imago otm x2. Also: I can only take so much Finnish street preaching.

Have you checked out Abigor?

I thought the problem with DsO wasn't their lyrical content but the fact it's Mikko Aspa singing?

If that was for me, yeah, I very much enjoy Verwüstung / Invoke Dark Age and Orkblut - The Retaliation in particular. I haven't heard their stuff post-Opus IV, though.

xp

their post-Opus stuff like Leytmotif Luzifer and Hollenzwang should be right up yr DsO-alley, super dense avantgarde ‘atonal rage’.

Time Is The Sulphur In The Veins Of The Saint too.

I'll check them out, thanks. DsO-style dissonance is an oft-disappointing BM subgenre in my experience but when it's on, it's a misanthropic feast, and I can't imagine the genre as a whole without it.

thoughts on the new Darkthrone:
+ maybe my favorite Ted vocal production, sounds very Cronos
+ title track is pretty great
+ it's Darkthrone
- they're not as good at slow/epic hm riffss as I want them to be
- it's not as good/memorable as Arctic Thunder

ok listening to it rn and
+ the back half is actually super fucking solid

imo in their current phase (their regal phase as far as I'm concerned) they've gotten impeccable with the back half of their albums

New Wormed song! (New Wormed EP in July!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwlPMrQYQ8

Box of the first four Krallice albums just went up on Bandcamp. The vinyl is selling for $800.

https://krallice.bandcamp.com/album/the-wastes-of-time

thoughts on the new Darkthrone:
+ maybe my favorite Ted vocal production, sounds very Cronos
+ title track is pretty great
+ it's Darkthrone
- they're not as good at slow/epic hm riffss as I want them to be
- it's not as good/memorable as Arctic Thunder

― blood, loud screaming and nudity (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, June 4, 2019 3:09 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think it's much better and more memorable than arctic thunder, though i should really revisit the last two again

i mean "much better" is overstating it

guess i'm gonna listen to darkthrone all day

does this go here or emo thread

https://www.adultswim.com/music/singles-2018/42

yes

haha

The vinyl is selling for $800.

I laughed pretty hard at this, then I clicked the Bandcamp link and realized you added a zero by mistake.

shipping to Canada is 63$ :( :( :(

I know it's noted on the bandcamp blurb but damn

Whoops! Sorry about the typo.

New Wormed song!

lol i knew this was you before i got to the end of the post

i count on you for my contrarian metal gatekeeping

yeah the riffs on the new darkthrone are my fav they've come up with ages. not that i'm complaining about how good they've been for the past hundred years

i own all of their albums now and really they're all at least good. avoided Total Death, Ravishing, etc for a long time but really i celebrate their entire catalog.

that new Wormed song is fucking sick. I listen to Krighsu maybe once a year and that's about all the sci fi grind-death or whatever I need these days, but it seems like they're expanding their palette a bit?

Yeah the production's a little clearer and it feels a little more accessible in some indefinable way?

Contemporary trad metal isn't usually my jam but the Traveler record is awesome:

https://travelermetal.bandcamp.com/album/traveler

― pomenitul, Friday, March 1, 2019 12:27 PM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is great, thanks

the new Bergraven (not sure when it came out exactly) is absolutely fucking fantastic

This is sort of surprising...a one-man Australian black metal act paying tribute to Yukio Mishima.

https://kommodus.bandcamp.com/album/an-imperial-sun-rises

When I think of Yukio Mishima, I think of one word: discipline. Here’s a man who never missed a deadline for his writing, or art. A man who identified the physical weakness within himself and sought to crush it.

In his short lifetime he left a body of work, a legacy that contained 35 novels, 25 plays, 200 short stories, and 8 volumes of essays. An amazing bibliography that assured him a place as Japan’s most celebrated author. An athlete who forged himself a new body from sun and steel. A pariah who disregarded the zeitgeist of his era – the erosion of Japanese tradition and the cultural pressures to transform the country into an emasculated leftist shadow of its former self. He contested his surroundings and matched his words with action, transforming his world to reflect his art. Training religiously, forming a militia, and ultimately immortalising himself through his work and through his death. Total commitment, total belief. Mishima had the drive and vision to make a poem out of his life. And in our contemporary era I think there is much to learn from him. To attempt to attain and exercise that same monastic drive in our own chosen paths. To have the sheer will and faith in ourselves to ignore all the ephemeral influences, distractions, and rabbit holes that are shoved down our throats, that obscure our focus, and derail our progress. To recognise and understand what it is we want and attain it, to attack it mercilessly until we are synonymous with it. How can we change the world if we can’t first change ourselves with discipline, determination and steadfast focus?

News, politics, social rhetoric and trends it’s all agenda and half-truths. Instead, we need the glorious sun, that defined our earliest incarnation of gods and goddesses. We need the steel to make us stronger and conquer. We need Mishima.

Having read the blurbs he's posted alongside his previous three albums, I don't think this guy's a fascist; I think he's just a dummy who's absorbed Extremely Online ideas about nihilism and filtered them through his own mental problems ("'One Thousand Years Of The Wolf' was recorded in the dry, infernal summer of MMXVIII amidst constant mental anguish and instability"). And the music is standard shouting-from-the-back-of-the-cave, dull and monotonous; I was just intrigued to see YM's photo on the cover.

Going by this cover I've got to imagine he's goofing on some level

https://imgur.com/fao70P1

well anyway dude's wearing a baseball cap on his first demo and what looks like his grandma's mink stole on his head on the second...

I don't think this guy's a fascist

Mishima was famously a Japanese nationalist, so 'far-right dog whistle' warning still applies.

I wonder if he knows Mishima was gay, and whether finding that out would change his impressions any.