Cause when our POLL did meet, Girl you know I was packin' heat! - ILM Artist Poll #97 - BECK (Voting is open until Saturday, June 1, 2019)

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Same -- Lazy Flies is all-time for me, partly because of the vocab (magistrate, debris, mangroves, sulphur, trawlers, opiates, syphilis, matrons, gigolos) but also because of whatever Waronker is doing in the second half.


Joey Waronker was astonishing to watch in the 2 concerts I caught in the 90s. Driving the beat but somehow being outside of it simultaneously.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 25 May 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link

Maybe too many syd barrett echoes for me in the first half of lazy flies. Second half better

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 25 May 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link

If I tried to do a tracks list for Beck, it would probably be a perversely odd one. He was never an artist I deeply loved or listened to obsessively, but I always admired his boundless eclecticism which seemed the work of a genuine enthusiast and music lover and not a dilettante. But I think a lot of the stuff that's stuck with me over the 25 years or so have been less the hits and more the detours and homages and one-offs.

I don't know if you'd call this a Beck piece, as technically it's a "remix" of many Philip Glass works, but it feels like it very much transcends that: https://vimeo.com/51116926

Soundslike, Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

A much cleaner recording of "NYC 73-78": https://soundcloud.com/dunvagenmusic/nyc-73-78

Soundslike, Sunday, 26 May 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link

def voting for the philip glass rework

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 26 May 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link


ok, i'm far from a beck know-it-all but some stuff i recommend - mostly late-period stuff because that's the era i got into him:

vampire voltage no. 6
deadweight
funky li'l song
gimme (extended version)
debra (kcrw '98 version)
santorini (record club: live at the acropolis)
nostalgia (record club: live at the acropolis)
nyc 73-78 (seconding)
green light
timebomb
scarecrow (el-p remix)
harry partch
banjo (the banjo story)

the commonplace is that somewhere in the 2000s he stopped making interesting music, but as far as i can tell that's not actually true, it's just that he stopped putting interesting music on his albums. nyc 73-78 is the outstanding example but not the only example.

― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Saturday, May 18, 2019 9:39 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is my feeling, heavily. Maybe the poll *won't* be just a bunch of 'Odelay' tracks? (Which I'll admit is my favorite album--but in putting my rankings together, I realized my tracks list and my albums list (as in albums-as-a-whole-work) are very different)

Soundslike, Sunday, 26 May 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

What’s the point of that Puff Daddy story? “It was like he was pursuing me and he had me, and I was discarded.” It sounds like Beck turned in a shitty performance, so Diddy didn’t want to work with him any longer, but is still polite to him. “Discarded”?

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 26 May 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

I'm listening to Mutations ("Bottle of Blues") as I type, a perfect post-pool album.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 May 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

XP Some of it is probably Beck playing to the NME--tabloid-ing it up, if you will--other versions of the story involve Diddy bringing him in to freestyle over a track, because he was the hot thing at the moment, and Beck delivered a very Beck-y freestyle that was too weird for the room.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 May 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

Usually the context is all the weird offers and doors that were opened to him immediately after Odelay.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 May 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link

I feel like Beck prob dodges a bullet there tbh

One Eye Open, Sunday, 26 May 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkCg-3nxT8E

the future is now, Monday, 27 May 2019 07:01 (four years ago) link

he just split with his wife of 15 years (Giovani Ribisi's twin sister), that's a drag.

considering that ALLEGEDLY the tax haven / slavery farm / cult church that he had been avoiding for years swooped in and arranged this marriage and anchor pregnancy to another born-into-it devotee 9.2 milliseconds after Beck split from his long-term SP girlfriend, this sounds like great news for Beck, not a drag

tfw you are not easily whelmed (sic), Monday, 27 May 2019 11:56 (four years ago) link

lol I googled to see if I had that timeline right and turns out that she was unaware that he left her in June 2017 until he served divorce papers in Feb 2019

soooo.....

tfw you are not easily whelmed (sic), Monday, 27 May 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link

another born-into-it devotee

(like, literally: Beck's mother delivered the Ribisii)

tfw you are not easily whelmed (sic), Monday, 27 May 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link

Maybe the poll *won't* be just a bunch of 'Odelay' tracks?

This is a v tough call putting my ballot together, on the one hand there are many nonalbum/outtakes that undoubtedly rank among my favorite beck tracks, but on the other hand its hard to seriously make the case that "Where Its At" and "Loser" &c are NOT among the 25 best songs in his catalog. I suspect I'll end up adding the hits but underrating them in anticipation of them being on p much everyone's ballot.

One Eye Open, Monday, 27 May 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

i put on sea change today and feel like i've been listening to it for 13 years. boy are "lonesome tears," "sunday sun," and "little one" great though. feel like even beck takes a nap during "round the bend"

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 27 May 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

"sunday sun" p much the only song on that record that actually has mutations energy

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 27 May 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link

The contrasting takes on "it's all in your mind" say it all really

Simon H., Tuesday, 28 May 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link

I'm so repulsed by the idea of Beck trying to Mean It that I can't relisten to Sea Change.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 01:33 (four years ago) link

he's got several "Word on a Wing"s in his catalog, but he recorded them earlier in his career.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link

mutations is a top one for me besides the more obvious prior highlights, and i kind of liked modern guilt a lot actually

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link

I remember being stoked to download the leaked version of Guero at the time, excited about the talk that he was back with the Dust Bros, and being generally disappointed except for two tracks that immediately stood head & shoulders above the rest, to my ears: "Send A Message To Her", which was the only track that successfully captured that manic collage feel of his 90s rockers without sounding tired or forced, and "Scarecrow", which in the leaked version was a 7-minute groove that included a long harmonica solo and felt like an extension of earlier songs like "Steal My Body Home" - I could not stop listening to it at the time. Then when I finally got the official release of the album "Send A Message" wasnt on it and "Scarecrow" was edited down to a weird cluttered single-length version that was impossible for me to enjoy after living with the 7 minute original version. So that whole record has the air of a letdown for me. Those two tracks and "Missing" are the only ones from that disc I ever dust off to listen to.

One Eye Open, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

i think "girl" is wonderful and it'll be high on my ballot. still figuring out how i feel about guero though i like it much more than sea change

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

I gave Guero a listen on our weekend road trip, I wasn't super impressed and I don't think anything from it will make my ballot. It's a fine record and a breezy listen but it sounds like a scientifically engineered midpoint between Odelay and Midnite Vultures. Kinda sterile.

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

"scarecrow" is a really awesome song both edited and unedited

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

also like "go it alone" and "broken drum"; i think guero figures out what it wants to be in the second half (loose jammy bluesy acoustic record with the dust bros). i baseline like every song though, even if they don't manage the sonic depth of odelay the ways that singer-songwriter beck tries to flatten out postmodern pop beck ("missing" and "earthquake weather" for example) are really fascinating to me

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

also completely ridiculous "send a message to her" wasn't on the record, like cutting "the new pollution" from your album

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

huh I never knew Jack White wrote "Go It Alone"!

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

the black keys rode the sound of "go it alone" straight to the bank

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

i listened to the information a lot when it came out and i remember almost nothing about it beyond the singles. i have very little sense of what this album is trying to do (beck, pretty reductively and to his discredit, described it as a folding together of mutations/sea change with odelay but there's WAY more of that on guero) and the songs are mostly not there beyond some ear-catching detail in the production. but then once in a while the clutter recedes and the space clears around an excellent late beck song, cf. "cellphone's dead" and "new round"

still you can sure tell it took three years of on-again off-again sessions to record, what an overload of... restraint?

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

huh I never knew Jack White wrote "Go It Alone"!

― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, May 28, 2019

I think he's credited with bass too.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

"Exoskeleton" section contains dialogue spoken by Dave Eggers and Spike Jonze.

ugh no none of this

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

post-information non-album single "timebomb" RULES though

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

otm time bomb is the shit

I'm surprised how often I've heard "Colors" in the wild. Also, my students' college radio station put it in rotation in 2017.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

modern guilt is pretty fantastic tbh

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

misread that as morning phase for a sec and was about to extend you an invitation to join the recording academy

I wonder if anyone will join me in voting for Colors and Morning Phase, and a few tracks from each? Maybe it was the result of having skipped all his 00s albums but I'm pretty fond of both. Absence makes, etc.

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link

My favourite version of It's All In Your Mind is on The Bridge School Concerts, Vol. 1 (1997). Took me a while to appreciate the one he later released on Sea Change with a slightly altered melody and added instrumentation, but I still think that Bridge Benefit performance tops it. The One Foot In The Grave outtake is okay too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEN0NIkFHYA

nth, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link

first round of confirmation emails are going out...i will let you know when all have been added to the spreadsheet.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link

I forgot about that Bridge School version of "Mind", that really is a great recording.

While I've still got zero interest in in Colors - that Greg Kurstin pop production is definitively Not For Me - this thread may have convinced me to give Morning Phase a spin for the first time(even though my ballot's already in). Revisiting the 00's stuff makes me think that even if it doesnt fully satisfy there might be a few tracks that click with me.

One Eye Open, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

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Bee OK, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

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Asking for help, I need someone who would be willing to help out with the images for the main poll. If anyone has the time and wants to help with the images for this poll, email the Beck email address above. I would really, really appreciate it as I don't have enough time to also do some good images. Besides, collaboration polls I feel are the best ones on ILM anyways.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link

Morning Phase is just a fairly pointless album to me - I like Sea Change a lot more than quite a few people here seem to but it certainly wasn't in need of a sequel. "Blue Moon" is a nice enough song but nothing else really stands out from it.

Colors also doesn't do much for me, the pop production doesn't really suit him and ends up making him feel pretty anonymous. it mostly feels like Cut Copy b-sides

ufo, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 01:43 (four years ago) link

q: are you folding all the votes for "got no mind" into "pay no mind"? same question for all the different versions of "jack-ass"

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link

p.s. the odelay b-sides are all so so so great

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

xp my vote is yes to the Jackass versions, but "Got No Mind" is significantly different lyrically and should be separate imo (plus it is better)

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link

i'm kinda down for folding them into each other bc then "pay no mind" would prob be top twenty if not higher. i do like that he sings "give the finger to the folk singer" instead of "rock n roll singer" in "got no mind"

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link


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