US Politics May 2019: " If I was burned at the stake, I would ask for a mirror"

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imo the establishment dems are terrified that, as with bill clinton, impeachment will lift the president's popularity. i don't think the situations are comparable, but they're always fighting the last war

(also they're scared that when the republican senate saves trump, the media will be all DONALD FULLY VINDICATED IN MASSIVE VICTORY, which is legit)

mookieproof, Friday, 24 May 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

Yeah, the Democrats should take heed of the bitter price the Republicans paid in 2000 and continue to pay to this day due to their partisan impeachment of Bill Clinton.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 24 May 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

^^^^^^^^

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 May 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

meanwhile

Breaking: The Trump administration officially notified US lawmakers that it plans to circumvent normal congressional rules to speed up arms sales to Saudi Arabia and UAE amid rising tensions with Iran. More @WSJ

— Dion Nissenbaum (@DionNissenbaum) May 24, 2019

but yeah let's just let the guy's term play out naturally, beat 'em at the polls etc.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 24 May 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

Send 'em some planes and box cutters, while you're at it, Don.

Ted Nougat (Old Lunch), Friday, 24 May 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

It's also possible to say the last few posts are otm and Pelosi still doesn't have the votes to impeach.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

yep that's kinda how it be right now

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 May 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

The comparisons to 1998 are bullshit. Clinton before impeachment already enjoyed an approval rating approaching 60 percent.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

Right. Anyway, the votes are not there in the senate, to convict. But she absolutely has the votes in the house—to impeach—if she wants them.

That would initiate an involved process that she could slow-walk as nexessary for political purposes. It would also mean Trump campaigning while on trial, on television. With sworn testimony putting what we already know on the public record.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

But she absolutely has the votes in the house—to impeach—if she wants them.

Link?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

she's the best speaker since Rayburn, a master whip, but even in the Senate LBJ couldn't whip votes from colleagues whose districts weren't going his way (and he knew when these senators lied).

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

k3vin k as much as implied in the primary thread that I'm a Pelosi fan boy or something. I want to impeach -- I want Trump in jail. But dudes like Hoyer and the other greybeards in her caucus look more haunted by 1998 than she is -- she has to deal with Trump face-to-face every day, unlike them. Several reps from swing districts were on cable talk shows this morning admitting they weren't moving (yet). What power has she over them?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

xxp I mean that's what she does—gets the votes.

I don't believe the relaively small number of house dems who have gone on the record as wanting hearings now relfects anything more than the top-down messaging: "not yet." It seems to me like she and Hoyer are just holding the rank-and-file back.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

Pelosi's claim that he is "daring" the House to impeach him is ridiculous. It's either her *own* 4D chess manuever (which I don't understand),

It seems to me the simplest explanation is that she wants the impeachment proceedings to start some months from now instead of now, so that it's not already seen as "old news, that's behind us" in November 2020. If Comey does his "wait I found some new HRC emails, oh no wait it was nothing" act in August instead of October, it would have affected the election hardly at all. (I take it as a given that this Senate will never convict their guy no matter what and he will serve out the rest of his term.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

Wait -- let's not collapse or conflate "hearings" and "impeachment"

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

Albert Burneko's rant, above, is like most rants: overdone, hyperbolic, claiming that its emotionally satisfying ridicule is a worthwhile substitute for measured analysis. It overshoots its mark and is just as shallow and reductive as Trump himself. But sometimes emotionally satisfying ridicule is just what your mood demands, like binging on ice cream.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

I don't understand ice cream

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

his thesis is solid: Trump is a straight moron and can't strategize beyond the next Fox and Friends

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

fat, sugar, creamy mouth-feel. it fits the basic profile of comfort food.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

rampant cutting of brake lines

Sticking BBs in valve stems so tires go flat is faster and arguably not a felony.

despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Friday, 24 May 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link

Going to be a trip to watch Trump purge the security agencies, fill them with meathead authoritarian loyalists, and then watch the next Democratic president respect their Independence by leaving them all there

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) May 25, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 May 2019 08:33 (four years ago) link

Yup. Can't wait!! :) :)

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 May 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

Biden: He's Reaching

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 May 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/25/us/nsa-hacking-tool-baltimore.html

so, just, like, whatever i guess

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 May 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link

Trump declares emergency to expedite arms sales to Saudi Arabia and UAE

cool

brimstead, Sunday, 26 May 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link

checks out

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 May 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link

good partners, important stuff

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 May 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link

i mean i'm pretty sure there are a few Yemenis still alive, there's no time to spare

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 May 2019 11:14 (four years ago) link

maggie haberman is trending for sucking again

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

poor Hope Hicks, trying to find the fortitude to resist subpoenas.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I read it -- good shit

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

Was there LSD in my eggs and chorizo this morning? https://t.co/oPO4nVcyeb

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) May 26, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 May 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

I wonder if dictators pass a burn book between them.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 May 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

(looks at watch. shakes it. looks again. purses lips. shakes head. walks off.)

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 00:46 (four years ago) link

...what is happening

No really, good job everybody. pic.twitter.com/NgO8G1Pvo8

— Schooley (@Rschooley) May 28, 2019

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 05:24 (four years ago) link

i checked - it's real

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 05:24 (four years ago) link

between that, the fawning Hope Hicks "existential crisis" profile and glamor photo and the front page Trump nicknames chart....

Dan S, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 05:31 (four years ago) link

the editors of the NYT and WP can't be that naive, I think Jay Rosen was right in what he said about the NYT, that “they are tempted to look right and see one kind of danger, then look left to spot another, equal and opposite. They want to push off from both sides to clear a space from which the truth can be told. That would make things simpler, but of course things are not that simple. The threat to truth telling - to journalism, democracy, the Times itself - is not symmetrical. They know this.”

Dan S, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 05:44 (four years ago) link

US terrorist supporters will always support US terrorists. When I read shit like this, my admiration for the Cuban Revolution increases. The Sandinistas were too democratic; and if US imperialists hate anything, it's democracy. https://t.co/4mV9KIUX5Y

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) May 28, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

WASHINGTON — A single House Republican again blocked final passage of a long-delayed emergency aid package, the second Republican in a week to use the power of an individual lawmaker to ensure the delay of relief for communities and farmers still recovering from natural disasters.

House Democrats tried for a second time on Tuesday to use a procedural vote to pass a Senate-approved $19.1 billion package while most lawmakers are spending a weeklong recess outside of Washington. But Representative Thomas Massie, Republican of Kentucky, used the power of a single lawmaker to object to the vote, pushing for the full chamber to be present to vote on legislation.

“If the speaker felt that this was must-pass legislation,” Mr. Massie said, “the speaker should have called a vote before sending members home.”

...
Without lawmakers in town, passage through the House would have to be unanimous. On Friday, Representative Chip Roy, a freshman Republican from Texas, postponed returning to his Texas district to prevent the package’s passage during an identical procedural vote, calling the maneuver “a very swampy thing to do.”

Like Mr. Roy, Mr. Massie outlined his concerns with the vote on the House floor, complaining about a vote during recess. Separately, Mr. Roy had also cited fiscal irresponsibility and the decision to leave out the White House’s request for about $4.5 billion for the southwestern border as reasons to take issue with the legislation.

...Mr. Massie, often a thorn in the side of House leadership regardless of party, lauded Mr. Roy’s decision to block the vote, calling the gesture “Hero level, over 9000” on Twitter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/us/politics/disaster-relief-bill.html

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

delaying aid for a bunch of people whose lives were ruined...and then making a dragonball z joke in praise of the delay.

wtf

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

Holy shit at that Amash town hall. He had support.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link

McConnell needs to die in the most horrific way possible imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 12:22 (four years ago) link

Good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link

McConnell said if a SC Justice died in 2020, Republicans would hold a vote to confirm a new one, in case anyone is wondering.

This description in the NYT seems rather understated...

Mr. McConnell’s most common explanation for blocking Mr. Garland — that a new president should get to fill a Supreme Court opening that occurs close to an election — struck Democrats as disingenuous at the time, and many said it looked even more so after Tuesday’s comments

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

tbh I'm glad he's at least not pretending anymore

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

like it's not the evilness and the brazen breaking of the rules, it's the longwinded justifications like "well ACTUALLY we've been VERY consistent on this if you look at the late 1800s you will find blah blah blah" that really annoy me honestly

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link


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