Terminator 6 aka the real Terminator 3 or something oh god when will it end

constant slow moody piano covers of women empowerment pop songs performed by men
"Nasty.... Nasty Boys... Don't Mean... A Thing..." *plinka plinka plinka*

where’s john connor

Furlong's 1991 facial likeness from Terminator 2: Judgment Day will be used in flashback scenes through the use of CGI in Terminator: Dark Fate (2019).

Something along these lines I imagine

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I like the idea of the Terminator series being like a sci-fi "Up" series, with the aging cast gathering every 7 years to reboot the movie again.

pretty weak

the CGI looks ghastly, i thought people had gotten better at this sort of thing

Yeah the CGI looks bad. I'll be glad when we're past the thing of having CGI-assisted fight scenes where it's obvious that it's just two little CGI sprites jumping around each other.

Its weird how CGI in action & sci fi movies can still suck in 2019. Its like the quality of it stays the same but the amount per film just increases.

How have the Terminator 2 FX held up? I know the practical stunts are still great.

t2 still looks astonishing imo

but it's hard for me to be objective about it

it's been a while since i listened to the cameron commentary track (which is really, really great, and gives you a sense of how they made a great story out of all these different moving parts, and how even though the theatrical release is 2+ hours long all of the editing choices they made were perfect, and how the original ending was so, so terrible) but iirc he points out a lot of the instances of cgi and it's really the way the computer graphics interact with the practical effects that keeps them looking good and natural

yeah, t2 still looks great because cameron made very, very smart choices about how and when to use cgi, and as sparingly as possible

T2 remains absurdly good -- the months leading up to its release were full of such anticipation amongst myself and my dirtbag friends that anything short of a masterpiece would have disappointed, and it didn't. it was sold heavily on the CGI but its pace and directing is what keeps it a classic to this day. Cameron is a genuinely amazing filmmaker in terms of plot structure and action and character types and getting memorable performances from his cast. his dialogue can often be a hard sell (increasingly so over time) but the films are top notch because all the parts are calibrated precisely. we can joke about Avatar and Titanic but those films as ridiculous as they can be are also shockingly non-boring.

i think his weakest film is True Lies in all respects.

also re: t2, they flew a real fuckin helicopter under a bridge in the highway chase scene

never fails to blow my mind

yeah, there’s so much gross gender and race stuff in true lies

true lies was a rough rewatch scriptwise but as a collection of action setpieces it is still pretty hot shit

but the misogyny kinda feels like a betrayal

knowing now that eliza dushku was molested by true lies’ stunt coordinator is also very much not in its favour

oh god i forgot about that

the Jamie Lee Curtis striptease scene is extremely creepy, i mean it's a nightmare for her character.

i remember feeling really uncomfortable during that scene as a kid and the discomfort did not wane

that scene and Arnold bringing down the full power of the CIA so he could make Bill Paxton pee his pants or w/e was going on there.

it’s a very weird midlife crisis of a movie - it’s so specific in its strangeness that it feels in some ways like cameron’s most personal film, and if that is the case it doesn’t reflect well on him at all

movie could be a polemic about how men are all just shit but it is not that

just remembered that a nuke is detonated in the florida keys in true lies

what a weird fuckin’ movie

lmao

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this got brought up in another ilx thread just a few months ago, possibly a cameron-related one

GnR gonna have a Taco Bell cassingle giveaway promotion for “You Could Be Mine 2”

Yeah the CGI looks bad. I'll be glad when we're past the thing of having CGI-assisted fight scenes where it's obvious that it's just two little CGI sprites jumping around each other.

weird that one John Wick director stayed on Wick to shoot fights and stunts and choreo in-camera as much as possible (with comedy digital squibs), and the other one has headed off to do 50%-CGI films all the time

One the one hand, great to have a 62yo woman as lead in an action film. On the other hand, everything else.

whoops, it's the Deadpool director, not the Deadpool 2 director

at least it is unlikely this one will have a mugshot scene set to "bad boys"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek_5pQtzRT8

Hoping this is good but low expectations.

Will probably be there opening night.

I am in the middle of a run of Shakespeare's Terminator the Second so it is ordained my cast has to see it

Seeing this now. Robotic fingers crossed

Omg. I enjoyed the fuck out of this.

It's imperfect. Not 100% sold on the nu-Sarah Connor.

Mackenzie Davis was great though. Arnold's cameo largely worked.

They did a nice butterfly effect storyline without getting too expositiony.

There was actual tension!

I mean...did it need to exist? No. But this was way better than I expected. Even if the first 20 minutes felt clunky.

They accidentally showed 8 minutes of Jesus is King first tho

I was very confused as to why there was gospel music

This was certainly a Terminator movie

I don't think it counts as a "cameo" when he's in half the darn movie!

the pre-show reel included a Terminator 2 trivia bit and had some bits that I'd known and forgotten

like the fact the Robert Patrick terminator scenes where he's taken the form of someone who is also in the scene? they used twins for several of those. including Linda Hamilton's twin!

So is this the entry that's supposed to finally get the franchise back on track? Or is that the one coming out a few years from now? I can never keep track of these things!

each entry in the series gets it back on track for a different alternative future iirc

Ed Furlong's, uh, cameo in appearance-only form is tragic in the plot but kind of funny as a viewer

Lol yeah

I am good with this being the last one.

But it won't be.

I've got to admit that one of the things that stood out is that they gave Arnold actual lines and he absolutely nailed it

Yeah i was pleasantly surprised

This did kinda feel like a Force Awakens

oof

As of November 1, 2019, Terminator: Dark Fate has grossed $10.6 million in the United States and Canada, and $12.6 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $23.2 million.[5] It is estimated the film will need to gross around $470 million worldwide in order to break-even.[4]