Terminator 6 aka the real Terminator 3 or something oh god when will it end

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the CGI looks ghastly, i thought people had gotten better at this sort of thing

terminator is basically a franchise for people who like leather jackets and automobile stunts, this sort of thing should be easy

definite plus points to whoever was like, "oh yeah, remember linda hamilton"

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

there are no bad terminator projects, only bad alternative timelines explored by terminator projects

mh, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

I also have no idea what I was smoking when I revived this thread in January '18 but I want some of it

mh, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

and holy shit, Brad wasn't kidding. why would you do this to a Bjork song?

mh, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

terminator is the worst franchise somehow.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

Well, the first two are ace, but that was before they morphed into franchise mode, I guess.

I hope the entire new movie is slow-mo and ramping.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

I think part of it is that they hint at the rich narrative promise of a dystopian future controlled by time-travelling robots seeking to destroy humanity but then chain each installment to the notion that the only stories worth following are those that involve an increasingly-aged Arniebot and his adventures with the Connor family.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

constant slow moody piano covers of women empowerment pop songs performed by men
"Nasty.... Nasty Boys... Don't Mean... A Thing..." *plinka plinka plinka*

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

where’s john connor

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

Furlong's 1991 facial likeness from Terminator 2: Judgment Day will be used in flashback scenes through the use of CGI in Terminator: Dark Fate (2019).

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

I like the idea of the Terminator series being like a sci-fi "Up" series, with the aging cast gathering every 7 years to reboot the movie again.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

pretty weak

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

the CGI looks ghastly, i thought people had gotten better at this sort of thing

Yeah the CGI looks bad. I'll be glad when we're past the thing of having CGI-assisted fight scenes where it's obvious that it's just two little CGI sprites jumping around each other.

Its weird how CGI in action & sci fi movies can still suck in 2019. Its like the quality of it stays the same but the amount per film just increases.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

How have the Terminator 2 FX held up? I know the practical stunts are still great.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

t2 still looks astonishing imo

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

but it's hard for me to be objective about it

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

it's been a while since i listened to the cameron commentary track (which is really, really great, and gives you a sense of how they made a great story out of all these different moving parts, and how even though the theatrical release is 2+ hours long all of the editing choices they made were perfect, and how the original ending was so, so terrible) but iirc he points out a lot of the instances of cgi and it's really the way the computer graphics interact with the practical effects that keeps them looking good and natural

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

yeah, t2 still looks great because cameron made very, very smart choices about how and when to use cgi, and as sparingly as possible

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

T2 remains absurdly good -- the months leading up to its release were full of such anticipation amongst myself and my dirtbag friends that anything short of a masterpiece would have disappointed, and it didn't. it was sold heavily on the CGI but its pace and directing is what keeps it a classic to this day. Cameron is a genuinely amazing filmmaker in terms of plot structure and action and character types and getting memorable performances from his cast. his dialogue can often be a hard sell (increasingly so over time) but the films are top notch because all the parts are calibrated precisely. we can joke about Avatar and Titanic but those films as ridiculous as they can be are also shockingly non-boring.

omar little, Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

i think his weakest film is True Lies in all respects.

omar little, Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

also re: t2, they flew a real fuckin helicopter under a bridge in the highway chase scene

never fails to blow my mind

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

yeah, there’s so much gross gender and race stuff in true lies

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

true lies was a rough rewatch scriptwise but as a collection of action setpieces it is still pretty hot shit

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

but the misogyny kinda feels like a betrayal

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

knowing now that eliza dushku was molested by true lies’ stunt coordinator is also very much not in its favour

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

oh god i forgot about that

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link

the Jamie Lee Curtis striptease scene is extremely creepy, i mean it's a nightmare for her character.

omar little, Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link

i remember feeling really uncomfortable during that scene as a kid and the discomfort did not wane

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link

that scene and Arnold bringing down the full power of the CIA so he could make Bill Paxton pee his pants or w/e was going on there.

omar little, Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

it’s a very weird midlife crisis of a movie - it’s so specific in its strangeness that it feels in some ways like cameron’s most personal film, and if that is the case it doesn’t reflect well on him at all

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

movie could be a polemic about how men are all just shit but it is not that

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

just remembered that a nuke is detonated in the florida keys in true lies

what a weird fuckin’ movie

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

this got brought up in another ilx thread just a few months ago, possibly a cameron-related one

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

GnR gonna have a Taco Bell cassingle giveaway promotion for “You Could Be Mine 2”

calstars, Thursday, 23 May 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

Yeah the CGI looks bad. I'll be glad when we're past the thing of having CGI-assisted fight scenes where it's obvious that it's just two little CGI sprites jumping around each other.

weird that one John Wick director stayed on Wick to shoot fights and stunts and choreo in-camera as much as possible (with comedy digital squibs), and the other one has headed off to do 50%-CGI films all the time

tfw you are not easily whelmed (sic), Thursday, 23 May 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

One the one hand, great to have a 62yo woman as lead in an action film. On the other hand, everything else.

whoops, it's the Deadpool director, not the Deadpool 2 director

tfw you are not easily whelmed (sic), Friday, 24 May 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link

at least it is unlikely this one will have a mugshot scene set to "bad boys"

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 24 May 2019 02:55 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek_5pQtzRT8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 May 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

Hoping this is good but low expectations.

Will probably be there opening night.

I am in the middle of a run of Shakespeare's Terminator the Second so it is ordained my cast has to see it

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 May 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

Seeing this now. Robotic fingers crossed

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 October 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

Omg. I enjoyed the fuck out of this.

It's imperfect. Not 100% sold on the nu-Sarah Connor.

Mackenzie Davis was great though. Arnold's cameo largely worked.

They did a nice butterfly effect storyline without getting too expositiony.

There was actual tension!

I mean...did it need to exist? No. But this was way better than I expected. Even if the first 20 minutes felt clunky.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link

They accidentally showed 8 minutes of Jesus is King first tho

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 02:05 (four years ago) link

I was very confused as to why there was gospel music

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 02:05 (four years ago) link

This was certainly a Terminator movie

mh, Friday, 1 November 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

I don't think it counts as a "cameo" when he's in half the darn movie!

mh, Friday, 1 November 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

the pre-show reel included a Terminator 2 trivia bit and had some bits that I'd known and forgotten

like the fact the Robert Patrick terminator scenes where he's taken the form of someone who is also in the scene? they used twins for several of those. including Linda Hamilton's twin!

mh, Friday, 1 November 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

So is this the entry that's supposed to finally get the franchise back on track? Or is that the one coming out a few years from now? I can never keep track of these things!

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link


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