HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

Bran can't see the future but they could've done a couple of shots of him en route to KL with his eyes whited out the whole time as he watched the immediate past in almost real time (can he see things just moments after they happened? ugh).

the two-faced raven

& just hope she hasn't gone and sailed off the side of a flat earth.

This would totally be a great show, have her off exploring exotic lands of what she believes is a flat earth. And maybe it is a flat earth! Make it kind of a lighthearted quippy adventure, where she meets new peoples and creatures. And then, on the cusp of cancellation after its first season and shortened second season, she finds a portal, and that portal takes her to ... modern round earth times! She opens a detective agency and solves crimes and mysteries. But it turns out she's not alone, and other people and creatures magical and medieval have made it through the portal in the past as well and formed a council of evil, which will become her arch nemesis.

Also, Bran would somehow give her the power to communicate with pets. But we'll never find out what ultimately happens, because this second spin-off will be cancelled after the first season. And then they can reboot Game of Thrones.

modern round earth times!

i do enjoy the implication here that the round earth is a recent development

Allegedly.

like don cupitt's insistence that galaxies were only ~70 years old

Bran can't see the future but they could've done a couple of shots of him en route to KL with his eyes whited out the whole time as he watched the immediate past in almost real time

As for spinoff ideas, someone pointed out that the final scene with Drogon was him flying eastwards with Dany's body. So maybe he's returning to Essos to the area where he's originally from? But said area also has magicians (like Melisandre) who can bring the dead back to life... So if they really wanted to, they could do a sequel series where a pissed off, resurrected Daenerys declares war on Westeros. I doubt they're gonna do that, but since they didn't show what happened to her body, maybe they were intentionally keeping the door open, in case someone wants to do such a sequel?

Sequel would be 3 seasons of Drogon flying back to Essos, 1 season resurrecting Dany, 2 seasons of Dany dicking around Mereen (because what else did she ever do), and finally 1 six-episode season introducing and concluding the invasion of Westeros.

Poor Edmure. That "no having kids in case they Hilary Benn me" tweet in human form

I thought Dany's "became a terrible person after she went on the management training scheme" energy with Jon was quite convincing while it lasted

Something they didn’t beat us over the head with:
Jon inadvertently gave Tyrion the idea of Bran as king by saying “love is the death of duty”

Yeah, that "why do you think I came all this way" line has no good readings for Bran

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rip fan theories

GoT is different than Lost in that there were many fan theories that would have been much better than what actually happened, whereas the GoT fan theories are almost uniformly lame

what actually happened at the end of Lost I mean

It's obvious that making Bran king is a terrible idea because Tyrion came up with it.

I also remembered how drunk he was the night he heard Bran's supposedly incredible story.

sawyer was the horse

I don't remember a single good fan-theory about Lost? But the not knowing was definitely better than the knowing :(

Extremely glad the shittiest fan theory of them all (Tyrion/anyone besides Jon being secret Targaryens) died an unmourned death. Thanks, terrible s8!

Lost needed fan theories, because the vast majority of the show made little to no sense. GoT generated fan theories because fans thought their ideas were better.

To be fair to the fans, they were.

Like, was it here or elsewhere, or both, that someone suggested what a clever fake out it would have been had the white walkers skipped Winterfell entirely and gone straight to King's Landing, only for the good guys to discover a zombified city? That would have been pretty cool, and would have set up a better final battle that finally paid off literally years of building up the ice zombies as the greatest threat in the history of mankind.

We talked about it. I was a big believer that it would be the case, it was called "The Night King Is Not Stupid" theory

Yeah. But it was way too optimistic. When the writers are stupid, all the characters are stupid.

screen time spend building up Dany's quest for Iron Throne vs. time spent building up zombie invasion pretty lopsided though

I definitely do like the "Bran is evil" theory, but maybe not-so-much "evil" as he foresaw that Thanos needed to snap and time travel needed to be invented and the stones needed to be stolen from the past so that everybody could be saved in the future

idk maybe the Night King didn't have a map or any newspapers or history books or ability to send out spies or....

Bran is basically Doctor Strange with no powers.

Which is to say that I guess a parallel could be drawn between Strange giving the Chaos Emerald to Josh Brolin and Bran giving the secret dossier to Jon Snow

Dr. Branhattan

I for one can't wait for a new round of Kingdom Hearts where we've got Cloud Strife and Arya Stark and Black Widow and Captain Picard and LEGO Batman all going toe-to-toe against Saruman, Darth Maul and John Wick

Would have liked to see Night King 1000 year empire destroyed by walker Sam’s referendum proposing representative walker democracy which it turns out does enfranchise dogs and goats etc...

can bran see the future, or just the past

I think I read that he can see the past but only some of the future? Doesn't really matter if he doesn't tell anyone anything.

"I can see the future!"

"OK, who wins the World Series?"

"I know, but I cannot tell."

GoT is different than Lost in that there were many fan theories

To me the critical difference is that somewhere in season 2 of Lost it became apparent that they were just pulling more and more random mysteries out of their ass and it would never resolve satisfactorily, so I quit watching. Thrones gave the opposite impression.

It's just that with some of these proposed "better" endings I'm seeing, they are so bad that I can't tell if people are being serious

The mysteries/machinations in GoT were compelling, imo. If Lost suffered from an inability to reach resolution, GoT suffered from an apparent disinterest in it.

Tbf to Lost, it had a few 22-episode seasons to fill and no books to fall back on, not to mention cast members bailing left and right. GOT had (almost) every imaginable advantage

To me the critical difference is that somewhere in season 2 of Lost it became apparent that they were just pulling more and more random mysteries out of their ass and it would never resolve satisfactorily, so I quit watching. Thrones gave the opposite impression.

i just realized that daenerys never actually sat on the throne. she just touched the arm of it before receiving the kiss of death

1) There were multiple fan theories that would have been superior to the story that we saw.

2) Even if you wanted to tell the story we saw, the creators’ decision to waste massive amounts of time on inconsequential shit for three plus seasons, then rush to truncate the story in a haphazard fashion, is indefensible.

Just so it’s clear above, I am not advocating for a longer show (dear god, no), just cutting out massive wastes of time, like Tyrion and Jorah jerking off in the gladiator pits, endless quagmire of Mereen, etc.

Now that I think about it, eliminating Dany from the show would be a vast improvement, lol.

I've often thought Dany could have disappeared from s1 until Tyrion goes to find her and you'd lose nothing

*the end of s1

I've often thought Dany could have disappeared from s1 until Tyrion goes to find her and you'd lose nothing

Enh, you could elucidate all that with Grey Worm, Missandei and some well-written dialogue.

Definitely preferable to the repetitive slog we got.

Eliminate all the characters except Ned and have the last 7 seasons be a shot of his severed head as it decays

Now we're getting somewhere.

a lot of budding screenwriters out there!

i do think there's an inherent danger in letting showrunners co-direct the final episode. it's hard enough to tell D&D that something is dumb, probably even harder when they're the co-directors. the whole auteur thing seems to work best when the auteur is really good