wave=invasion
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link
Jeff beck is great we can have him and mahavishnu John“Blue wind”!
― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:02 (four years ago) link
“Beck’s Bolero”“Cause We’ve Ended As Lovers”
so many tunes omg
― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link
McLaughlin/Mahavishnu is so *intense* in its shredding. Joe Satriani of the second British wave is not totally off the mark, but Beck's gift is in his lyricism (see: his tremelo/volume knob virtuosity). Though tbh I literally never listen to his albums, it's worth perusing a few youtube clips. Like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toMTAHsz26I
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link
xp ok I know those but what else
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link
Gah, now I'm watching a bunch of Billy Cobham clips on youtube, thanks a lot (but also, seriously, thanks a lot, Billy Cobham is rad)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link
it’s just really pleasurable hearing him do his thing, and the backing/production is always way way better than satriani records
― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link
Yeah I can understand that...but I mean the early run of Beck records as I remember them are just kind of lacking...personality?
ftr I love the faces
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link
I've tried Jeff Beck several times and I don't hear anything there at all. Totally lacking in personality, plus I'm not exactly convinced of Rod Stewart's worth either.
Billy Cobham is amazing to listen to sometimes but other times it's like watching a guy keep a soccer ball in the air for 45 minutes - you would have been happier watching him do it for 5.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:14 (four years ago) link
I dig Beck's playing in that video above but that band behind him is leaden and absent enough that it sounds at times like one of those shreds vids
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:16 (four years ago) link
There are some old clips on YouTube of him with Jan hammer that are pretty dope
― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link
Obviously some folks here haven't raved-up w/The Yardbirds!
J/K That probably won't change your minds either.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link
"Scatterbrain"!
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
I like the band with Vinnie and Tal.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link
xxp I have a 2CD Yardbirds comp (Rhino) that def. did not make me a fan. (I guess “British Invasion Rock” in general is something I have tried and failed to get into, with a few minor exceptions...)
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link
Um “happenings ten years time ago”???? dude
― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link
“Over under sideways down” is the freakiest danciest freakbeat madness
― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:47 (four years ago) link
I’ll give it another shot
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:51 (four years ago) link
(I guess “British Invasion Rock” in general is something I have tried and failed to get into, with a few minor exceptions...)
Totally with you on this. I find the next stage, British teacups-and-lace-cuffs psychedelia, similarly worthless.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link
there’s a smokin live disc with page that came out recently too... disc 2 of that “yardbirds 68” set... that’ll get your motor running
― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:55 (four years ago) link
no lace or teacups there, just straight up whiskey soaked blues rock terror
yes, this is killer
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link
I've never been able to get into the Yardbirds. Or Traffic. Or Blind Faith. Or Clapton in anything, not even much of Derek & the Dominoes, tbh, though I want to keep trying with that one.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link
Clapton is a nobhead though so understandable. What about Cream?
― thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 06:31 (four years ago) link
Traffic are great.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 06:59 (four years ago) link
yardbirds are great but they sound pretty different from any later clapton stuff to me. i like cream and some of the layla album well enough but can't really get into anything else.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 07:40 (four years ago) link
Wouldn't lump Traffic in with the other bands listed at all.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 08:54 (four years ago) link
Apart from Blind Faith!
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 09:11 (four years ago) link
I think I cut off liking Clapton at about the Laylah lp too. May have been way too mainstream after that.Do like the earlier stuff for the main part though.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link
I'm not a big Cream fan, either - though I do like Ginger Baker solo!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:55 (four years ago) link
I did have a Best if Cream tape that I liked as a kid; those are good songs, though I wouldn’t listen on purpose these days.
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link
Beck's playing style kind of annoys me (Wired/Blow by Blow and on) Yardbirds are good but if you don't like the 2cd Rhino comp mentioned up thread you don't like themCream has a bit of "you had to be there" I think, influential but so quickly eclipsed by a wave of Cream inspired heavy rock/proto metalSmall Faces/Faces are fantastic
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link
I do like the Cream pop tunes, maybe those were Bruce mostly?
Beck's playing style now is the end product of a natural impulse to throw in little licks and inventive tricks to spice things up in a song you've played forever... problem is that these little touches accumulate over time and eventually you've lost the core of what it was, it's all these little doo-dads and volume knob squiggleslike at what point do you cease being a fish with feet and start being an amphibian?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
Like many, I pretty much have no use for Clapton's music after the Layla album.
The moment he shut himself away as a smack-addled recluse in the early '70s, it was over, and coaxing him out to do tours when he'd merely swapped smack for booze and coke was a huge mistake.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link
i love disraeli gears, mainly for clapton's leslie-boosted guitar tone, but cream is basically a singles band, and a ten-track comp of their best songs would be a bit disjointed but it would also rip
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
yeah I like their quirky pop Tales of Brave Ulysses/I Feel Free type shitClapton was such a purist he quit the Yardbirds because they finally wrote a good song
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
I honest will give the Yardbirds comp another go; it’s been a while.
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
(xp) Jack Bruce songs. Though Clapton did write "Badge".
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
Actually I'm wrong, Clapton wrote "Tales of Brave Ulysses"!
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
yeah I thought that was Bruce as well and just looked it up!
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link
He sang it, which is where the confusion arose.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
i was surprised that their lyricist pete brown wasn't involved with that one--written by martin sharp, who designed the album covers
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
Sounded pretentious enough to be Pete Brown, true.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
"'Wrapping Paper' is the biggest heap of shit I've ever heard in my entire life" - Ginger Baker
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link
famously agreeable ginger baker
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link
In this case, I actually do agree with him!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link
I eventually changed my mind about Meshuggah fwiw, I like them now
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link
I kind of hate Cream and Ginger Baker especially fwiw. I think he's the shittiest "good" drummer, thuddy and lacking in soul.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link