dude that isn't westerospedia that's kingsguardopedia
― sarahell, Monday, 20 May 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
you can all go see the new Joanna Hogg film now
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 May 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
Speaking of Joanna, I'd put Tyrion in the book for killing Joanna Lannister alone!
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 20 May 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
I'd watch a west of Westeros if it happened.
― Stevolende, Monday, 20 May 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
Dany with Drogon's wings spreading out behind her really was an all time geekout awesome shot I can't believe they'd never attempted it before (that I can recall?).
― nashwan, Monday, 20 May 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link
I liked this piece on the shift in storytelling style in the last couple seasons
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-real-reason-fans-hate-the-last-season-of-game-of-thrones/#
― Simon H., Monday, 20 May 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
― Tuomas, Monday, 20 May 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, May 20, 2019 2:13 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
man, i was choosing between that and high life on saturday and i picked high life like a dummy
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 May 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
Wait did Jamie scribble the "yo they call me kingslayer" bit himself?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
ya right above where Brienne wrote FUCCBOI
― sarahell, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
Lotta people saying, hey, fuck this "he has a great story" shit, Arya has a more interesting story than Bran. But I mean Jon was not only a rightful heir, he was also brought back from the dead! That's a pretty good story.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
Rightful heir doesn’t mean much unless you’ve got some force behind that.
― gyac, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
Just saying. His whole back story is interesting enough that it comprised a significant part of the show. And ... he was brought back from the dead! Lol that he was such a boring character even being brought back from the dead does not put him on the top tier of interesting stories.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
This whole shiw was about how force matters, except when it doesn't (ice zombies, dragons ...).
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Monday, May 20, 2019 3:02 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
for the first couple decades Jaime was on the Kingsguard, Ser Barristan was the Lord Commander--he wrote the Kingslayer stuff
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 May 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
Character in book: The REAL king is the teller of stories. Even if sometimes he hasn't got time to finish telling his stories
― kinder, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
Also, he's super hot, here is his number
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link
Bran went to all that trouble to warg into Drogon, melt the iron throne and conveniently drop Dany in the sea, and then Jon just admitted he killed her. You'd be fumimg
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 20 May 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
Why aren't Westeros' new millennial leaders having children? Are boomers to blame?
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 20 May 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link
too busy with their Dornish lemon toast
― kinder, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
also I guess winter is going, now? I thought it was meant to last years
― kinder, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
Along with the profound existential threat posed by the night king, the threat of the longest winter in memory turned out to be another dud. There was barely even any snow on the ground and thick green foliage on the trees in the background during the election scene
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 20 May 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
What was the point of the last Varys raven note writing scene(s) if it didn't do anything for the story?
― Evan, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
xpost Maybe "winter is coming" was just a misreading of "Snow is coming." And then at the end of the show he leaves.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
yeah there was a very obvious shot of a 'green shoot' poking through the snow beyond the wall iirc
xxp maybe Bran doesn't have warging-through-time powers after all, just warging into ravens to read the mail
― kinder, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
warging peace
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
night king dead = no endless winter
pretty standard fantasy stuff tbh
― Number None, Monday, 20 May 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link
I thought this was the second best episode of the season, after episode two. Some of it even made thematic sense. I could see the books building to Daenarys getting stabbed by Jon Snow, that she would be the last in the line of people like Ned Stark, Robb Stark, Jon Snow (who got better), who tried to lead and change and got killed for it. I still can't see her becoming an insane murderous tyrant, and it ruins everything. It's like the writers don't know the difference between Robespierre and Napoleon.
― Frederik B, Monday, 20 May 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
I had assumed that they were taking big jumps into the future, but the night king explanation makes sense. I guess.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 20 May 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link
It was dumb but I enjoyed it. I’d watch a pirate queen Arya spin-off.
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 20 May 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link
"I'd watch a west of Westeros if it happened."
WestofWesterosWorld
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 May 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link
I dont understand why everyone's mad because of Tyrions "Bran has the best story" thing. He didnt mean "Bran's story arc was awesome hes the best!" he meant he had *everyone in the words stories stored in his mind*.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 20 May 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link
Generally though, this was a bit of a load of auld bollox. Drogon burning the throne. Good god.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 20 May 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
What should've happened:
Sailing west for some number of months, they see a statue on the horizon. As they near, they realize it's on an island, and the statue is a woman bearing a torch, and the name of that island: Ellis Island.
-CUT TO BLACK-
― Tormund Giantsbabe (Leee), Monday, 20 May 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
Trayce otm x2. This season was bad but also frequently misinterpreted in some very weird ways
― rob, Monday, 20 May 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link
As soon as the throne got melted it was pretty obvious that they'd have to choose a king with the vision to bring his own seat
― mick signals, Monday, 20 May 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link
haw!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 20 May 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link
i just thought it was unbelievably corny
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link
On that I think we all agree.
When Jon and Tormun went back norf, I'd take Tuomas's caper one step further and say they shoulda been confronted in the forest by Benjen and Lady Stoneheart.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link
the whole ending wasn't as bad as lost, and the show never set itself up to leap off a platform on its face as lost did, but this season is as bad and stupid an ending of a series as i've seen since lost. harsh to say that but it honestly is so uneven and silly as it ends.
the wildly imbalanced tone, the 90-minute character-only episodes versus 90-minute battles, the immediate deaths followed by 45 minutes of talking, the sudden bran is king appointment etc, it's just been a fucking laughably shit last six episodes, and that's after season 7 and maybe 6 were at best episode one big battle episode 10 a second one with nothing happening in between.
yet again, somehow, they eschewed any action in favour of a denouement that was as boring as return of the king, except return of the king at least was a bad half hour at the end of a three and a half hour movie. the absolute waste of time. i found myself surprised there was about 50 minutes go when they'd already ended any significant narrative about 10 minutes in.
glad it's over, good first few seasons and entertaining along the way but time to get on with our lives.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link
Yeah for me the pacing was the most jarring part.
We spent an entire fucking season yawning away sitting around in Mereen and in one episode, Dany dies and suddenly its X weeks later and everyone's sitting around going 'ok so whos running the place now then I guess we better do something' and no riots from dothraki or unsullied....
...and um, was there like *anyone* left in Kings Landing to even rule?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link
yeah, spent about three or four seasons dawdling around the place, especially dany. then for whatever reason they decided to end this one in six episodes when they'd built up enough slack that they had to rush through deaths of major villains or characters as if there was never any significance to them to begin with.
the bran is king scene was about as stupid as i've seen on television, like the show has always flirted with the new adventures of hercules but mainly in dorne, great they returned to that aesthetic in the finale.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link
Along with the profound existential threat posed by the night king, the threat of the longest winter in memory turned out to be another dud. There was barely even any snow on the ground and thick green foliage on the trees in the background during the election scenenight king dead = no endless winterpretty standard fantasy stuff tbh
I’m not talking about the endless winter, just the really long, non-magical, especially brutal one they kept hyping which ceased to be much of a concern in the end
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link
just a garbage end to a garbage season for a show that had several very good seasons is how i bran the broken it down to an extent
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:32 (four years ago) link
I always assumed the extra long winter did actuall = night kings schtick, just no one attributed it to that because no one believed in him/dragons/cotf etc anymore (re Old Nans stories).
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
heres my question how come Brienne is still wearing her armor for like, going to meetings & stuff all that nice royal furniture being chewed up! plus surely uncomfortable af
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:26 (four years ago) link
for me it's hard to fault Brienne for anything, she is so awesome (I say this not having seen the last season)
― Dan S, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link
oh i agree, she’s awesome
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link
the seasons on Westeros are inherently magical, yes
Unless there's a scientific explanation for decades-long winters of variable length
― Number None, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link
https://splinternews.com/thank-you-for-the-content-slop-hbo-1834887867I feel like the above linked piece is a much better distillation of all the whining than anyone else is likely to accomplish on this thread or elsewhere The scientific american blog post about sociological vs psychological storytelling was really good though, everyone should read thaton to chernobyl, his dark materials and the third season of that stupid westworld show
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link