Instead of lingering on a bunch of scenes of characters staring at chairs or whatever, yes I too would have loved to see the chaos and confusion of the Dothraki and unsullied learning that Dany was dead all of a sudden. However this whole season they've been using cutaways to get away with not showing how exactly scenes played out and forcing the audience to assume the middle portion. Again a yadda yadda yadda narrative copout imo...
― Evan, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
also, since the night king posse got defeated, why does the night's watch still exist?
night's watch basically rebranding as a new Proud Boys chapter
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
nothing about this dumb fucking thing made much sense, but this particularly irked me: did jon go downstairs and find white worm and say, ""hey i stabbed the queen" or were there surveillance videos or what? Because no one was there and yet everyone seems to have understood pretty clearly what happened in some detail. Why didn't Jon just say the dragon freaked out, burned the throne, grabbed dany and took off?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
Because it's Jon Snow. He pouts and is honest to a fault.
― Evan, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
But yeah, they did that ALL over the place this season. If anything was too hard to figure out they'd cut to commercial break and fast forward.
― Evan, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
The “stories” speech sounded like those bits at the oscars where they talk about writers and the magic of cinema.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
Maybe Bran told everyone what Jon did (time wise it felt like we jumped weeks ahead, Jon's dishevelled look in the cell another indication of that), figuring it might leat to him being given a chance to rule - apparently it's why made the journey to the Dragon pit.
Not sure the Night's Watch did still exist and thought the implication was Jon was supposed to re-instigate it. It felt vague to me whether he was going beyond the Wall permanently with the free folk too - maybe just escorting them because of his deep Tormund love. It's not clear why Tormund and Ghost were there either other than for blatant fan service reunion.
― nashwan, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
Yeah greyworm showing some Buddha like restraint not killing Jon esp in light of the ease with which he killed the random Lannister dude a half hour prior ???
― calstars, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
yeah, Jon got freed from obligations, got his dog back, and will inevitably hook up with another foxy redhead wildling because who the fuck is gonna enforce what he does/doesn't do with his dick at this point?
― sarahell, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
Iron Bank Mark Gatiss should've popped up at the King's council meeting too really, if only just to grin condescendingly at them all - just any indication as to what people in Essos make of it all would've been nice.
― nashwan, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link
I actually loved the Jon/Dany resolution, Drogon's reaction.
I was lmao from this point on. I immediately texted my buddy, “I heard you like symbolism, dog.”
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
Yup. He may be Rhaegal and Lyanna’s son but he’s Ned Stark’s boy.
It's a show about nature vs. nurture. Vs. prophecy.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
yup. if I’m the Iron Bank I’m like “technically the huge debt Cersei ran up is owed by the crown. we approve Bronn’s plan to generate new revenue with state-owned brothels”
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
He pouts, and doesn't know things.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
Dragon should have winked and said to the camera, No more thrones, no more games.”
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link
Remember all those theories that Bran was going to go back in time and drive the Mad King mad with whispers? He probably made Dany crack so he could have the throne. The best player wins.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
during Tyrion's "stories" speech when he said "and Bran became the three eyed raven" I expected at least half of them to say what the fuck are you talking about
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
i guess once the star wars and sequel casting is done that's when we can expect a more steady stream of actors talking shit about this season?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
xpost It's a bit like, "You know who'd make the best President? This guy who says he was abducted by a UFO and turned into the Great Tuning Station."
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
I also liked the final scene of the Jon and the wildlings entering the same woods as the Night Watch folks in the beginning of the very first episode. However, since everyone on the internet seems to be coming up with these fanficcy scenarios of how they would've fixed season 8, I also wanna present my idea of how the that ending could've been even better:
The final scene. The Wildlings are about the enter the woods. Jon stops to gaze at them, turns at Tormund, and says:
"At least we won the war against the dead. These woods are safe now."
Tormund smiles, but then all of a sudden something jumps from behind the trees and attacks him! The camera reveals the attacker: it's a wight! In fact it's the same little girl wight who attacked the Nights Watch patrol in that very first scene!
Jon runs to help Tormund, and as he's doing that, in the distance we see a shadowy figure on horseback. The camera begins to zoom on the figure... It's a White Walker! Then we see it has horns like a crown... But it's not the Night King, as we now see that it's a woman! The camera pans on her face, and... It's Ygritte!
"You know nothing, Jon Snow."
Fade to black. End titles.
― Tuomas, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link
was Joffrey a symptom or an aberration
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
Not sure the Night's Watch did still exist and thought the implication was Jon was supposed to re-instigate it. It felt vague to me whether he was going beyond the Wall permanently with the free folk too - maybe just escorting them because of his deep Tormund love
i think he was permanently heading north of the wall, but i only say that because of the long shot of the wall/gate closing behind him as they left. it seemed very "this is the last glimpse he'll ever have of the south of the wall"
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 May 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
not just the shot of the wall, but also the shot of jon looking toward the closing gate
I'm sure Jon told the Night's Watch guys that he was gonna go check if the Wights are really all gone brb
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 20 May 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
What’s the over/under on how many kids Sam and Gilly wind up with? I bet it’s gonna be in the teens.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 20 May 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
I did enjoy that Jon talked to both his sisters before he got around to bowing for the King, who looked at him like a bug
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 20 May 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
I was impressed that even though I kept looking for the moment when Jon was going to kill Dany, being determined not to be surprised by the obvious thing that was definitely going to happen, it was exactly when I groaned at that stupid overwrought kiss that they decided to do it.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 20 May 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link
I had the same question about the nights watch and I think we're to assume that greyworm was ok with this because he just didn't fucking know who they were or what they were for, so he was like "yeah sure send him up there" and they were all snickering behind their hands knowing he'd just to hand out with his snow hippies.
― akm, Monday, 20 May 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
just go hang out. goddamn I cannot type.
I got the impression the Night's Watch is now the keeper of harmony between the kingdoms and the people beyond the wall. For now, that'd mean helping the wildlings reestablish their home, right?
― mh, Monday, 20 May 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link
This show really went downhill for me after I learned that Benioff's dad was a Goldman Sachs chairman.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 20 May 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
Arya is actually travelling to the new world to sell low grade mortgage backed securities backed by the Iron Bank
― sarahell, Monday, 20 May 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
Arya taking all her genocide knowledge to an undiscovered continent
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 20 May 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
tyrion's "keeper of the story" speech very strange when apparently anyone with halfway decent calligraphy gets to edit westerospedia and sam dumps a tyrion-free galley proof on his lap.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 May 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
dude that isn't westerospedia that's kingsguardopedia
― sarahell, Monday, 20 May 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
you can all go see the new Joanna Hogg film now
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 May 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
Speaking of Joanna, I'd put Tyrion in the book for killing Joanna Lannister alone!
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 20 May 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
I'd watch a west of Westeros if it happened.
― Stevolende, Monday, 20 May 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
Dany with Drogon's wings spreading out behind her really was an all time geekout awesome shot I can't believe they'd never attempted it before (that I can recall?).
― nashwan, Monday, 20 May 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link
I liked this piece on the shift in storytelling style in the last couple seasons
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-real-reason-fans-hate-the-last-season-of-game-of-thrones/#
― Simon H., Monday, 20 May 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
― Tuomas, Monday, 20 May 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, May 20, 2019 2:13 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
man, i was choosing between that and high life on saturday and i picked high life like a dummy
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 May 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
Wait did Jamie scribble the "yo they call me kingslayer" bit himself?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
ya right above where Brienne wrote FUCCBOI
― sarahell, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
Lotta people saying, hey, fuck this "he has a great story" shit, Arya has a more interesting story than Bran. But I mean Jon was not only a rightful heir, he was also brought back from the dead! That's a pretty good story.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
Rightful heir doesn’t mean much unless you’ve got some force behind that.
― gyac, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
Just saying. His whole back story is interesting enough that it comprised a significant part of the show. And ... he was brought back from the dead! Lol that he was such a boring character even being brought back from the dead does not put him on the top tier of interesting stories.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
This whole shiw was about how force matters, except when it doesn't (ice zombies, dragons ...).
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Monday, May 20, 2019 3:02 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
for the first couple decades Jaime was on the Kingsguard, Ser Barristan was the Lord Commander--he wrote the Kingslayer stuff
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 May 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link