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I didn't think I'd won anything as they didn't announce the bronze and silver for my category, found out on the train home!

Probably should be more sociable if I'm actually going to promote the show, only spoke to one person apart from my wife, which show were you there with?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 19 May 2019 22:11 (two months ago) link

lol no way. I was going to say that I didn't remember you getting a prize but thought better of it because surely... surely that would indicate a total lapse of attention on my part. but no!? i think there were literally only like two awards they DIDN'T read bronze and silver for? bizarre.

I was there for No Country For Young Women. I commissioned it. didn't help that we were in one of George's 'groups of death' I guess!

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 May 2019 22:56 (two months ago) link

re: the aftershow i have rarely seen such nakedly desperate networking in all my life

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 May 2019 22:57 (two months ago) link

Yeah, even with free booze i simply cannot do networking, am only used to talking to strangers if I am organising their study abroad courses.
Was out of there about 15 minutes after it ended.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 19 May 2019 23:08 (two months ago) link

And our second episode is up!

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/2

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 May 2019 16:02 (one month ago) link

I enjoyed all of the Kalevala talk in the first episode. I want to reread that soon.

jmm, Friday, 24 May 2019 16:09 (one month ago) link

Thanks! Yeah it's always worth a revisit.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 May 2019 16:11 (one month ago) link

I've been listening to Jon Ronson's latest - The Last Days of Autumn. I generally really like him but there's something that niggles me, a sort of disconnect between his anxious, forgiving persona and the topics he explores. Which is fine when it's Alex Jones, but when it's about the more vulnerable I don't know: the presentation can seem a bit disingenuous. This might well turn out to be more about me than about him and the disconnect is ultimately his greatest strength as a journalist. Does including the 'this is making me really anxious' stuff and acknowledging that his intrusions are dangerous make the thing more authentic and justifiable?

Anyway, I'm babbling. Short version: I'm finding it very affecting, which is why I'm interrogating myself and my assumptions.

― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, April 15, 2019 3:26 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Last Days of August.

I'm going through it right now. Wow, the tirade that Lisa Ann delivers in episode 4 really reminded me of Kellyanne Conway or someone.

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 3 June 2019 22:54 (one month ago) link

didn't he just do a podcast on the porn biz?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 June 2019 23:18 (one month ago) link

tuomas in chicago

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 3 June 2019 23:19 (one month ago) link

I don't get it (I don't think?).

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 June 2019 23:24 (one month ago) link

I was thinking about The Butterfly Effect, a podcast he did on the repercussions of free porn online.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 June 2019 23:25 (one month ago) link

so you knew the answer to your question?

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 3 June 2019 23:26 (one month ago) link

yeah, I was writing more rhetorically. as in, didn't he just do this?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 June 2019 23:27 (one month ago) link

One seems to be about porn in general and this one about one porn star in particular.

I can listen to some Last Podcast on the Left episodes or the You Must Remember This Hollywood but these more voyeuristic series about people who weren’t really famous gross me out.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 3 June 2019 23:34 (one month ago) link

I think he said that people from that world kept reaching out to him after the first podcast, so he ended up following this story

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:58 (one month ago) link

I can see why since it’s an intersection of his last two big topics—social media shaming and the porn business

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:00 (one month ago) link

didn't he just do a podcast on the porn biz?

1) that was two years ago tbf
2) the free/public version of this is on the same RSS as the free/public version of The Butterfly Effect, so is effectively a second season

Tue Oct 23 2018 06:30:00 -

In December 2017 the famous porn star August Ames committed suicide in a park in the San Fernando Valley. It happened a day after she’d been the victim of a pile-on, via Twitter, by fellow porn professionals - punishment for her tweeting something deemed homophobic.

A month later, August’s husband, Kevin, asked writer Jon Ronson to tell the story of how Twitter bullying killed his wife. What neither Kevin nor Ronson realized was that Ronson would soon hear rumors and secrets hinting at a very different story - something mysterious and unexpected and terrible.

In The Last Days of August, Ronson unravels the never-before-told story of what caused this beloved 23-year-old actress’ untimely death. Coming to Audible January 4, 2019.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:32 (one month ago) link

Wow this Ronson podcast is absolute garbage

Mordy, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:03 (one month ago) link

do you like poetry podcasts? i like the New Yorker one, don’t love the Paris review one (the readings are set to music) any other recs?

flopson, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:37 (one month ago) link

not a podcast but R4 does "poetry please":

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qp7q

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:52 (one month ago) link

also poetry extra: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06qdjcn

and for something pretty weird there's this Tim Key show:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03pn5pl

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:55 (one month ago) link

there's a great moment in the 4th ep of that Ronson podcast where this woman chews him out for being an exploitive vulture willing to use gossip + ill feelings + rumors + nastiness + prurience to make a titillating story and how it's ultimately irresponsible etc and it's just like "wow right on" and then he's like "well obviously I can't stop the story now."

Mordy, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:16 (one month ago) link

It's good that he keeps it in, especially in that form, because he's clearly questioning the whole project at that point, and the listener should too. When it turns out that the woman has an agenda and is not really playing fair, it's kind of a relief, and I wonder if he would have junked it if that weren't the case.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:02 (one month ago) link

The whole thing is so toxic it's hard to know who benefits from the story being told. One worry is that it's Ronson who benefits. His tone sometimes makes me think of the last shot of Bowling for Columbine: Moore leaves the image of the girl at Charlton Heston's house and walks away all hunched shouldered with a 'more in sorrow than in anger' slouch. It's not quite sanctimony but it's in that zone.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:01 (one month ago) link

Finally got around to putting out another episode of mine:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s2-e1-djao-7777777/id1451018142?i=1000440701897

Had to do some ridiculous editing as a result of recording a remote interview (our separate recordings were somehow at different speeds, for one). Someone really needs to make the app that records both sides of a call in high quality.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:17 (one month ago) link

here's a pretty amazing show about poet Momtaza Mehri

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b098n8z9

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:21 (one month ago) link

xxp it's so gross and i'm someone who has enjoyed some of ronson's work in the past but this feels just so gratuitous and just stirring up the worst impulses of human beings to get a not particularly insightful story

Mordy, Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:29 (one month ago) link

i finished the whole thing bc i wanted to give ronson a chance to make all this petty human tragedy mean something but he gets nowhere

Mordy, Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:46 (one month ago) link

if you didn't know that the porn industry has a number of unhappy damaged ppl in it you might find it educational. even the prurient aspects are so low key and low stakes ultimately for a story about a sex industry it's just normatively bleak.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:48 (one month ago) link

I havent listened to Ronson’s podcast & prob won’t

the Rialto Report is a good interview podcast with stars & directors of porn of yore by 2 consultants from HBO’s The Deuce. It’s pretty good.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2019 03:54 (one month ago) link

Re poetry podcasts R3's The Verb can be good. Does contain extended Ian McMillan: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tnsf/episodes/player

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 6 June 2019 06:58 (one month ago) link

Can't imagine which would be more depressing, tales of '70s porn or tales of '10s porn.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 6 June 2019 07:09 (one month ago) link

American poetry podcasts that are good include VS (aka Versus) and Poetry Off The Shelf.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 9 June 2019 02:38 (one month ago) link

They mentioned it on a recent episode, I think it was a yacht or nyacht? Said they're doing ten more episodes so they hit 100 and then stop. Though they also hinted they'd do other things in the podcast format.

― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 11:04 AM (eight months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol 8 months later and they’re still putting out wpisodes

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 June 2019 01:25 (one month ago) link

They’re up to 90 Y or N mini eps and they may hit 100 before their 100th episode proper

calstars, Sunday, 16 June 2019 01:26 (one month ago) link

Third episode is up!

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/3

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 June 2019 18:37 (three weeks ago) link

will listen!

the Michael Lewis podcast Against the Rules is pretty irresistible to me rn

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 June 2019 19:49 (three weeks ago) link

My friend's son is recording a podcast about cheese. It's called Charlie's Cheese Chat, and it's the best. Here's the second episode. It's uncanny how well this 10 year old kid gets the rhythms of grown-up podcasts down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY0oSTSM3m0&feature=youtu.be

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 June 2019 22:01 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npwVEkinqxI

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 June 2019 22:02 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Probably in a minority here and Not a podcast but Have to recommend the 4 Extra rebroadcast of a great adaptation of a Mrs Henry Wood Melodromatic pot boiler; East Lynne. From back when radio 4 could expend seven hours of drama on moralising Victorian pulp fiction.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006fdd

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 15 July 2019 09:07 (four days ago) link

I have to say I like how actually doing a podcast has already made me more attuned to the finer points of recording and editing, as well as pacing in general — each episode is building on the last as I am able to drill down on certain points. I’m not saying we still can’t improve but it is happening!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:28 (four days ago) link

I'm really not enjoying It Could Happen Here, but it's kept me riveted.

полезный идиот (Sanpaku), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:08 (yesterday) link

That podcast was good enough that I checked out the host's other show Behind the Bastards, but it's that format I kind of hate where someone presents information and two other people crack dumb jokes.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:21 (yesterday) link

Yeah, my friend really likes The Dollop, but the one time I gave it a shot it sounded like a Morning Zoo thing. Like, "Welcome back to the Dollop, my name is David ... AND I'M THE SQUEEGE!"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:50 (yesterday) link


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