Wishin' and Votin' - the BURT BACHARACH SONGBOOK Poll Results

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*wakes up and immediately checks final few tracks.*

Excellent. Very nice work, WmC. Thanks!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 17 May 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

Think this was the most fun since the Elvis POLL, perhaps even more fun.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link

It's hard for me to separate out pure childhood nostalgia from the jazz craft of a lot of these tunes but i assume that the craft is explaining a lot of the permanent love, for me, anyway

― Doctor Nu (Noodle Vague), Friday, May 17, 2019 1:05 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean this stuff remains classic and evocative for a bunch of reasons i hadn't thought through until we did this

― Doctor Nu (Noodle Vague), Friday, May 17, 2019 1:07 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xps -- mmmmmaybe? But I find the songs so amazing I even like "bad" versions, and craft can't explain that for me.

― WmC, Friday, May 17, 2019 1:08 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Feeling all this, and I’ve always considered myself more of a BB skeptic/detractor/cherrypicker.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

Although I did get on board with the Rhino Box, come to think of it.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

So, I voted for all of the top 5! "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself" was the second track I remember vividly from my otherwise seemingly Bacharach-free early childhood. Wish I had that childhood nostalgia for more of them, tbh.

Four of my selections didn't make the top 60. (I apparently had some company with the first two though. Bless.)

Living Together, Growing Together
Paper Mache
Try to See It My Way
The Breaking Point

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link

Ella Fitzgerald cut an album for Reprise in 69 with a bunch of Brit session players covering Motown, Beatles, Randy Newman etc. Her version of ‘The Hunter Gets Captured by the Game’ is particularly suited to her.

― Dan Worsley, Friday, May 17, 2019 2:40 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is great, thanks for the tip.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link

Cheers Wm! this very much needed done also i can use it to dig into the stuff that i shd've dug into before

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 May 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link

Thanks! I'm really happy with how the poll turned out -- could have used more ballots, but everybody who did vote brought a ton of enthusiasm and well-considered choices. I'm going to hang on to that spotify deep-dive playlist, now up to 675 tracks, and keep adding to it as I find things. If nothing else, it's something for other spotify users to drag from to create their own exploration and personal listening lists. Speaking of spotify, thanks Nag! Nag! Nag! for creating the results playlist.

WmC, Saturday, 18 May 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link

Thank you to everyone who voted! You made the poll!


Thanks for all the hard work!

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link

I haven't opened the spreadsheet, but I'm guessing this doozy didn't get any votes. Have never seen the movie, but I *definitely* know the chorus; am thinking I heard it performed by some children show's ensemble circa 1973. Never knew it was Bacharach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46stUnjT71c

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 May 2019 05:56 (four years ago) link

sally kellerman is so dreamy

velko, Saturday, 18 May 2019 06:25 (four years ago) link

hat-tip to whoever the other "Three Wheels On My Wagon" voter was

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 May 2019 09:30 (four years ago) link

According to the memoir, there are FIVE pianos on “What’s New Pussycat?”

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

But tbh I can’t hear any piano at all

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

"I'l Never Fall In Love Again," sung by Jill O'Hara, Jerry Orbach, from the Promises, Promises OCR is great, thanks, and the vibe is totally reminiscent of "Frank Mills," sung by Shelley Plimpton on the Hair OCR.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

The replacement cast for the original Broadway PP included Lorna Luft and Tony Roberts.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 May 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

Interesting.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link

After Burt had stopped conducting for Marlene, I ran into her in Beverly Hills one day. I chased after her and said, “Marlene!” And then I said, “Burt would love to hear from you,” or “I’m so sorry things aren’t working out.” And she said, “Finita la commedia.”

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

Ah, just got to the part in the book where Neil Simon wanted Tony Roberts to replace Jerry Orbach in the original cast during rehearsals, but then changed his mind at the last minute.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link

If this thread has that Geico commercial it should certainly have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBLMbJnN69c

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

William, I don’t know why you keep saying this book is so short, my copy is 400 pages long. Don’t think it can just be that the ebook has a different numbering system.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

It's short compared to Robert Caro's Bacharach: Master of The Melody (#3 of 5 Volumes)

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 May 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

The hardcover is 280 pp.

WmC, Saturday, 18 May 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

It's short compared to Robert Caro's Bacharach: Master of The Melody (#3 of 5 Volumes)

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Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

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Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

Finished the book, which I will also recommend. Now to see if I can find one of the volumes by that fellow from Cairo.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 May 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

Tbh thought it was one of the better memoirs that I have read. Lots of good detail about his working process and on the personal front there is lots of interspersed text from others such as Angie Dickinson so it is not just from his point of view.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 May 2019 12:04 (four years ago) link

So, as to why I put “Mexican Divorce” at number one:

  • Knew it wouldn't win but wanted it to place high
  • Think highly of the Bob Hilliard collabos in general
  • Historic importance of being the session at which Dionne Warwick and Burt made first contact
  • The fact that Paul Griffin probably played on this as well as Steely Dan's "Haitian Divorce" (although I don't have confirmation of either of these things)
  • The genre-bending: seems like from the music it is going to be a South of the Border novelty song a la The Coaster's "Down In Mexico" mixed with a touch of Mary Robbins' "El Paso" but then it turns into a kind of breakup song (albeit with a tacked on happy ending), echoed decades later in the fireworks-shooting Mexican kids in X's "4th of July"
  • The jaunty but lugubrious beat, and they way it is reflected in the slow funereal march of the almost monosyllabic lyrics, the numbed out I can't believe this is happening of it all until the breakout of two three syllable words in "Mexico is different"
  • The detail of the "travel folder," as evocative as Hal David's "thumbing" through the Little Red Book.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link

^ love this

budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 04:51 (four years ago) link

Yes -- like I said, well-considered choices all around.

WmC, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link

Forgot to mention the “old adobe courthouse.” Okay, I’m done.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link

sad i didn't get the time to vote, if only because it meant that nobody voted for roland kirk's "say a little prayer" :(

(actually i would've voted ground zero, but close enough!)

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

Thought maybe he got a vote for another tune like "You'll Never Get To Heaven (If You Break My Heart)" but seems that was not the case.

Hal David's birthday yesterday.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 May 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

This is more relevant perhaps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rZEi_lT-o

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 June 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Weird thing I just came across about the group called Smith mentioned several times up thread, they did a version of “The Weight” which is on the Easy Rider soundtrack. Lead vocal is by a dude this time. For a split second I thought it was actually The Band with Levon singing, although I got over it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMQ6QrsTPfw

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 July 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link

They seem to be one of the only groups, perhaps the only group, not mentioned on the album cover.

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 July 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link

IIRC, the Smith cover was recorded for the soundtrack album because The Band and/or Albert Grossman wouldn't license it out for the album even though it was cleared for the movie proper.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

"wouldn't license the original" should be in there.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

Makes sense, it’s all clear now, thanks.

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I rarely check my release radar on spotify, but did today and saw the Complete Scepter and Warner Albums by Dionne Warwick -- 200 tracks, tons of good stuff, not all BB.

https://open.spotify.com/album/3D7QBZNuwDgKojTvNe74SY?si=RGiU1uggTIuveVXpjd1z-A

Galangal Baker (WmC), Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

Wow

Ferlinghetti Hvorostovsky (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

Extensive track notes? Probably not on Spotify

Ferlinghetti Hvorostovsky (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

I think if any of the music streamers added liner notes/credits/art, there'd be a mass migration.

Galangal Baker (WmC), Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link

Wondering how Bobbie Gentry’s version of “I’ll Never Fall In Love Again” placed. Asking for a friend via Zing.

Ferlinghetti Hvorostovsky (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

I didn't break down the voting by version past the top 10 (link: Wishin' and Votin' - the BURT BACHARACH SONGBOOK Poll Results). I still have all the tabulations and could do that someday I suppose. Bobbi G's version got 2 votes and 60 points, which would have been around 55th place in the whole poll taken on its own.

WmC, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

Thanks! I’ve been kind of digging it. It popped up on some 60’s Country playlist the other day

Ferlinghetti Hvorostovsky (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

And now digging the Jackie Trent version of “Make It Easy On Yourself.”

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 November 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link

Of all the ballot polls I did, and I bogarted Zeppelin, Bowie, Miles and Eno, this one was the most fun, all 17 voters' worth.

WmC, Sunday, 24 November 2019 04:07 (four years ago) link

Always liked this Ben Folds Five take on "Raindrops," and Bacharach too gives the impression of liking this "very hot group"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeFgAJVMVeM

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 24 November 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link


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