Growing: s/t
PGWP, you nominated this, but neither Discogs nor Wikipedia has any info on Growing having released a self-titled album... Which album did you mean?
― Tuomas, Friday, 17 May 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
Marsen Jules - Lazy Sunday FuneralsMarsen Jules - YaraBiosphere - CirqueMonolake - gobi. the desertSteve Roach - Dreamtime ReturnDonato Dozzy - Plays Bee Mask
6/30
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 17 May 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
Perhaps the scandal leading up to this poll will allow us to define ambient music once and for all. Musicologists, take note.
― pomenitul, Friday, 17 May 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
I love ambient music, and I love some music included here that is absolutely not ambient music, but I just can't bring myself to argue about it, so i'm just not going to participate in this as long as stuff like this (which I love, btw) is included: https://soundcloud.com/origin-peoples/tommy-awards-side-a-op001
There's nothing about this that is ambient. Also, if Steve Reich is included, then you have to include Bach and Beethoven too. It's either Classical or Modern Classical, but it's not ambient. Anyway, as I said, there is no satisfactory resolution to this argument, and since shit this isn't ambient will be included, I see no point in following or participating. Why not just call it 'Music You Can Chill Out To' or 'Would be decent with a spliff and a comfy sofa'.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 17 May 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
Just rename it it "the ambient/new age/drone/space/bio/furniture/vibes" poll and call it a day
― dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
^^^
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
I'd also like to cull some entries, lest it become the arty electronica poll. Will take a stab this weekend.
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
You guys are so embarrassed by nerds arguing about genre boundaries that you don't think it's worthwhile to try singling out the best ambient albums?
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
I was OK with looking at this as a poll of non-beat-oriented drone-like music with an electronic component and accepting all of it but Steve Reich did raise my hackles a little: although there is definitely a connection between minimalism and ambient, Reich was going for something that would inspire "closely detailed listening", arguably the opposite of "non-intrusive background music". Music for 18 is also very rhythmic and entirely acoustic, if that matters. Still, there IS a connection so.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
There's a connection, but I don't feel at all bad about drawing a line that excludes all Reich. Trust me, he wouldn't want to be in this poll anyway.
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link
Giusto Pio-Motore ImmobileAndrew Chalk-Baroque ScreensAndrew Chal-The Cable HouseVikki Jackman-Whispering PagesJan Jelinek/Masayoshi Fujita-Bird Lake ObjectsMichael Brook-HybridArp-InversionsInoyama Land-Danzindan PojidonDean McPhee-Four StonesGas-ZauberbergIan Middleton-Well of SorrowsJonathan Fitoussi-Imaginary LinesRobert Turman-Beyond Painting
13/30, with apologies for genre boundaries/definitions etc.
― nerve_pylon, Friday, 17 May 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
The Seven Fields of Aphelion - Keep the Ocean Inside4/30
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
THE POLL THAT STEVE REICH DOESN'T WANT YOU TO VOTE IN.
― Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Friday, 17 May 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
NUMBER FIVE WILL SHOCK YOU!
― Tuomas, Friday, May 17, 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sorry, it's The Soul of the Rainbow and the Harmony of Light. For some reason Spotify lists it as s/t though I knew that was incorrect!
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 17 May 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
Ok, thanks!
― Tuomas, Friday, 17 May 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians
Groovypanda, you nominated this, but there are several different recordings of this composition. Which one do you want to nominate?
― Tuomas, Friday, 17 May 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X14B7JHAooNtfPbNilJ1xPshNaKBbL6q-8E1xUdM7xU
Here's a link to the nominations so far, lemme know if something's missing. (I've corrected some of the artist and album names, so your nomination might be elsewhere alphabetically.)
― Tuomas, Friday, 17 May 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
As for the debate on what's ambient, I have no way of making that judgement, so I'm not gonna disqualify anything... And the nomination process in polls like this is always a bit messy, but I do agree that this is not a poll for just any kind of minimal music, or music to smoke weed to, or experimental/artsy electronic music in general. So hopefully when it comes the time to vote you do stop to consider that ambient is narrower than those definitions, even if it's not easily defined by conventional genre boundaries.
― Tuomas, Friday, 17 May 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link
SunnO))) - Flight of the Behemoth
― dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
I mean, I loathe to use Pitchfork as a measuring stick, but their list, which includes a KFW intro and blurb by a bunch ppl who are over the age of 35 (Beta/Sherburne/Richardson/Masters/Reynolds) has a very open attitude towards what is considered "ambient"
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9948-the-50-best-ambient-albums-of-all-time/
― dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
fantastic work tuomas
personally prefer a wide definition myself
― Milton Parker, Friday, 17 May 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
I mean, everyone can vote for THE ARTIST CLEARLY INTENDED THIS MODULAR SYNTH RECORD AS MUSIQUE D'AMEUBLEMENT PER THE DICTATES OF SATIE but that's not as fun imo
― dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
Also, I'm probably very close to my full noms but here's some big dogs that we've overlooked in case someone else wants to nominate them
Mort Garson - PlantasiaPhilip Corner - Satie SlowlyRaymond Scott - Soothing Sounds for Babies Vol. 1Raymond Scott - Soothing Sounds for Babies Vol. 2
― dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
Colleen - Les Ondes Silencieuses
15/30
― Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
Fripp and Eno - No Pussyfooting Sakamoto and Alva Noto - Vrioon
― 29 facepalms, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
Vangelis, "L'Apocalypse des animaux"
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
Steve Roach - The Magnificent VoidSteve Roach - Quiet Music
― Brad C., Friday, 17 May 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link
Robert Rich - Calling Down the SkyRobert Rich - Humidity
― Brad C., Friday, 17 May 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
The Necks - MosquitoJohan Johansson - Fordlandia
― 29 facepalms, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
Looks like I get five more
Raymond Scott - Soothing Sounds for Babies Vol. 1Bohren and Der Club of Gore - Black Earth
― dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link
that pitchfork list is kinda dumb, we talked about it at the time. like tim hecker, fennesz, pretty laptop noise... lol
― brimstead, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link
Sorry
― brimstead, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link
After 5-6 weeks of listing to Bacharach songs this will be a nice tonic.
― WmC, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link
but that's not as fun imo
Part of the fun for me here is trying to figure out why some records feel ambient to me and some don't. Replica? Returnal? Persian Surgery Dervishes? Some of my favorite records, but they scratch a different itch.
But say Rifts isn't my definition of ambient either but fine, it's definitely part of the same fantasy musical universe as Structures From Silence.
So it is written, so shall it be done.
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link
Eno Moebius Rodelius - After the Heat
― 29 facepalms, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link
Oöphoi – Static Soundscapes: Three Lights At the End of the WorldAntrilon – Mind EraseMWVM – RotationsLull – Like A Slow RiverHazard – WoodDeep Magic / Pine Smoke Lodge – Split
― :∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:00 (four years ago) link
Les Halles – Transient
16/30
― :∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link
^^^ good one
― brimstead, Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:44 (four years ago) link
I think ambient-ness for me has something to do with difficulty of perceiving movement, lack of drama, also just a general diffusiveness and um.... driftiness... a sense of distance/absence/“not there”-ness, indirect, sonic blanketsFennesz/Tim hecker include plenty of actual bursts of noise. and bald faced emotion. I like em bothSteve Reich/tony Conrad/Niblock stuff is so intense and lysergic it just doesn’t float or sit enoughI also hate sentimental gooey “ambient” that sounds like it could soundtrack a serious moment in a stupid movie/tv show. The ambient equiv of like Explosions In the Sky.Ok end rant, only posi non-annoying brimstead from now on promise
― brimstead, Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link
Norman Westberg – 13Mark Wastell – Come Crimson Rays
18/30
― :∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Saturday, 18 May 2019 05:26 (four years ago) link
Irresistible Force - Dreamfish
This should be: Dreamfish - Dreamfish, and is Mixmaster Morris + Pete Namlook
― beard papa, Saturday, 18 May 2019 06:06 (four years ago) link
I also hate sentimental gooey “ambient” that sounds like it could soundtrack a serious moment in a stupid movie/tv show.
pleasantly surprised to see no bvdub yet
― groovemaaan, Saturday, 18 May 2019 06:14 (four years ago) link
beard papa at 9:06 18 May 19Irresistible Force - DreamfishThis should be: Dreamfish - Dreamfish, and is Mixmaster Morris + Pete Namlook
― Tuomas, Saturday, 18 May 2019 06:35 (four years ago) link
I've updated the nomination list, the link above still works, but here it is again:
― Tuomas, Saturday, 18 May 2019 08:15 (four years ago) link
Alain Presencer - The Singing Bowls of Tibet
1/30
― dogs, Saturday, 18 May 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link
I haven’t missed a playlist for the nominations, have I?
― I am using your worlds, Saturday, 18 May 2019 11:22 (four years ago) link
gas - narkopop
9/30
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 18 May 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link
ta for correcting the dreamfish mistake folks.
― mark e, Saturday, 18 May 2019 11:55 (four years ago) link
I haven’t missed a playlist for the nominations, have I?If you start listening now you should get about halfway through by the time voting closes.
― groovypanda, Saturday, 18 May 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link