Deep Space Nine: a thread for (re)watching this awesome series

solid trek history of having characters undergo monumental life-altering experiences that . . . don't actually seem to change them at all

I've been with my gf for a little over a year now, the other night i was describing the plot of the episode "the inner light" to her when she interjected: "this is the third time you've told me about this"

jim, can you say with certainty that you aren't currently being 'Inner Light'-ed, perhaps for the 3rd/4th time

maybe he's being 'cause and effect'ed

https://www.vulture.com/2019/05/what-we-left-behind-documentary-deep-space-nine.html

a couple of my friends at work saw it and really enjoyed it! think there was just the one showing so i'll have to wait for home release

the blue goatee is really a LOT though

i def want to see it anyway

Farrell, at one point in the documentary, breaks down into tears discussing the disrespect she dealt with at the hands of an unidentified producer.

*cough*rickberman*cough*

Daaaamn @ Klingons leaving the Federation. Did not see that one coming, particularly since I knew Worf would be making his way into the cast at some point. Glad I've somehow managed to avoid spoilers for the past twenty years. But yeah, man, I guess when Sisko shows up with a chrome dome at the start of season 4 you know shit's about to get real.

'The Visitor' = some good-ass Trek. Almost choked me up a bit at the end, almost.

fuck yeah, great ep

Almost? You monster!

I think it was because I was struggling with Tony Todd's old man makeup. I mean, it was top-notch work for the high school theatre kid who presumably won a contest to work on DS9 for a day, but it wasn't quite broadcast quality.

Get the doc on Bluray: http://www.treknews.net/2019/08/02/deep-space-nine-doc-what-we-left-behind-slated-for-digital-release/

I can't say why exactly but it feels like a big deal that O'Brien died and was replaced by his future self (even if only from a few hours hence). Like he and others should be freaking out more about that, I feel.

― Blithering Hayseed (Old Lunch), Thursday, May 16, 2019 8:09 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh yeah that is crazy

― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, May 16, 2019 8:45 PM (two months ago)

they do this to harry kim on voyager too, only he is the harry from a slightly phase-shifted second voyager who opts to hop back on the one whose harry kim dies during the episode, when he's walking off with janeway at the end he's trying to weird out about it and she's just like yeah shit is crazy that's starfleet for ya huh

sounds like a feeble attempt to make harry kim interesting

they also sent him to an alternate universe where he never embarked on voyager and had to steal an experimental shuttle with a ne'er-do-well tom paris to get back home

and once he fell in love with a holodeck hoochie, but then had tuvok swoop in and become ensnared by her wiles (she was really a lonely alien)

harry kim just can't catch break, interest-wise

just watched the episode where worf's brother comes to ds9 to have worf do Mauk-to'Vor on him. pretty good. worf is a welcome addition to the show.

then watched the one where rom forms a union for the workers at quark's bar, to see rom saying "workers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains" was a joy

worf felt really awkward to me for a while -- seemed like he'd regressed to a character that hadn't just spent six seasons among humans. which i guess isn't surprising since it sounds like the producers were all like 'here's worf, fit him in somehow'

i think that might just be the overall model for character-writing for the entire universe: start out with racial-essentialist 'x aliens drive like this' and lean on it hard for six to twelve episodes and then gradually plod into the main characters actually displaying facets and possibly personalities and having relationships with a modicum of history, which counteracts but certainly never displaces the initial MY KLINGON TEMPER IS SO DEEP-SEATED IN ME garbage

oh sorry if i'm ranting but the other day i saw the voyager where two ferengi try to corner the market on a wormhole and end up trapped in the delta quadrant but they are received by the locals as gods so they use a replicator to exploit the populace and disseminate the rules of acquisition which they actually haul out of the temple like they're in the ark of the covenant

I'm watching series 2 and for some reason it's defaulting to German language. I forget and it cracks me up every time for some reason.

Also all the political intrigue is quite stressful.

Didn't mean to write "for some reason" twice.

just watched the episode where o'brien has memories of 20 years imprisonment implanted in him.

oof.

correct reaction

i suppose when you think about it the original miles o'brien is already dead 0_0

googling o'brien/bashir and there is a lot of slash fiction. sometimes garak is in there too

apparently in the ds9 doc the guy who plays garak is asked about the dynamic between garak and bashir and he just flat out says "garak wants to fuck bashir"

which, I mean, lol

i feel like his performance brings that as subtext.

it most definitely is how he plays the character

yup 100%

While the subtext of the relationship between Odo and Quark is that they are a cranky lesbian couple who own a jam and jelly emporium and who entertain their customers with some completely transparent pantomime that's meant to suggest they don't intensely love one another.

I got my DS9 doc! Won't really have time to watch till the weekend but stoked all the same.

I think I'm gonna wait until I can stream it. Looking forward to it though!

just watched the iggy pop episode! solid entry in the vortas being weirdos canon

*shouting down the hallway*

"We're gonna need another Weyoun!"

I think I'm gonna wait until I can stream it. Looking forward to it though!

Bluray has additional footage though!

The Blu-ray version will include 47 minutes of bonus footage, that wasn’t shown during its original theatrical release in May.

I don't know if I have a BluRay player of any kind. I think my XBox One had one but I sold it. T0rr3nt? ;)

I watched most of the doc yesterday (I have about 30 minutes left), and it made me want to watch the entire series again. So good thus far.

- If you were ever curious if Rom could make it as a lounge singer, you're in luck.
- I was disappointed to see that Rick Berman was included.
- Both Daxes in the same room at the same time!
- The remastered space battle looks amazing.
- Colm is pronounced "Collum"!
- Marc Alaimo is a weird, insecure guy. His voice is all messed up now, too.
- The hypothetical season 8 premiere -- loving it so far.

- "Silent Bob"

marc alaimo was a weak link as an actor, so . . . otm

he was great! hammin it up with the best

Yeah gul dukat owns.

I'm really into ds9 rn. On season 5, the cardassians have joined the dominion, eek!

I have way too much stuff to watch, but if I dip into this show, is s1e1 the best place, or in media res somewhere else?

Things don’t really pick up until S2, but it’s somewhat serialized so I’m not sure you’d want to skip S1. I used this guide when I rewatched it, which skips a bunch of fluffy episodes. It leaves in all the Ferenghi stuff (space Jews!), which can get a bit tiring, but the guy makes a good case for watching them: https://medium.com/maxistentialism-blog/star-trek-deep-space-nine-in-82-5-hours-10acde591fd2#.nfj6q7sqb

Yeah you need S1 to set up the world and the characters - first two episodes especially. If I were to watch it all again (hint: I never will) I would skip all the Ferenghi episodes, as well as all holosuite and all mirror universe ones.

I like the concept of Space Jews, as that role seemed to belong (somewhat) to the Vulcans in TOS and even the first Abrams movie.

Even if that means skipping Vorta Iggy Pop?

If you’re not keen on seeing militarized Federation war serial, I’d recommend something close to the opposite — a handful of the novelty episodes that they sprinkled in for leavening. The tribble one for example
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tXar2DiP_w4/UZ0gs7PAhUI/AAAAAAAABJM/qISF7kIu1VU/s1600/tribble.jpg

Looking through the first season episodes, the ones that jump out at me as the most skippable: 'Move Along Home', 'The Storyteller', 'If Wishes Were Horses'. Depending on your feelings re: Q and Lwaxana Troi, you could probably skip their episodes. The Ferengi-centric episodes aren't my favorite but I like the core DS9 Ferengi trio enough that I push through (although the one (or the first one, as I understand there's at least one more) with Quark and Rom's mother was...trying).

the mirror universe ones are Good (even if the ease of getting back and forth is extra silly)