Transport in London is shit

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sending a driver out without at least a basic float of £50 in coins is ridic, maybe not so much now but it has been standard practice for years before contactless.

calzino, Friday, 17 May 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

they give you a token for yr change in dublin, you can go ten miles to the head office to collect it if you like

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Friday, 17 May 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

That is - or was until recently - the deal in Glasgow, you get a little piece of paper that you can go redeem somewhere lmao

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 May 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

Drivers can’t not give change, but they also leave the depot with zero cash - so if nobody has actually given them any coins before you get on, and you want to pay with a £5 note, they just refuse to take you.

drivers up here mostly let ppl on for free when they're out of change

ogmor, Friday, 17 May 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

Thats the common sense approach, especially if you are getting a day ticket. But some of these miserable fuckin drivers...

calzino, Friday, 17 May 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

This can get all the way to fuck.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/18/woman-knocked-down-while-on-phone-wins-payout-from-cyclist

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

Disgraceful judgement.

The Pingularity (ledge), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

Outrageous.

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

who works for a finance firm in the City of London and runs yoga retreats

imago, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

Most people who run yoga retreats?

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

Ah wait I see now

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

Horrendous decision. I constantly see tourists moronically wandering into the road or fucking around blocking people from crossing safely - that’s the kind of unexpected behaviour I see most often and it’s so common. London continues to be shit for cyclists - if they weren’t forced to merge with traffic esp on overcrowded junctions, you’d remove this worry.

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

Fuck this. Cyclists should be prepared to turn sharply into the path of all the cars and buses going past them if some idiot steps off the pavement without looking?

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

she brought the case, waived her anonymity, and is about to suffer national wrath. worth it?

imago, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

The audacity to sue for this is beyond belief. And tbh I doubt the wrath of the nation will be harnessed in defence of the universally loved and respected cyclists of London

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

yoga retreats can get you a shit-hot lawyer eh

imago, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

It’s very difficult to judge court cases based on a 200 word newspaper summary.

If this happened where I think it did, pedestrians cross through the cycle lane constantly. The cyclist saw her, shouted a warning, blew his air horn and swerved when it was too late but didn’t slow down or stop when he had the chance. His assumption seems to be that she would hear and turn back in time, which isn’t what happened. Interestingly, the pedestrian witnesses seem to have sided with the cyclist and the cyclist witness sided with the pedestrian.

It takes a huge amount of brass neck to sue for this but idk if it’s legally wrong.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

damn your even-handedness, we want blood

imago, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

Cycling in London is genuinely quite dangerous, and especially during rush hour braking hard/swerving unexpectedly is not a good idea. Might not be legally wrong but it is fucking bullshit.

Oh look



Nice little detail at the end:

“A survey of Australian drivers earlier this year suggested more than half think cyclists are not completely human, making it easier to justify hatred or aggression towards them.”

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

just wanna squawk about some of these wild bus re-routes that totally snuck up on me - 4 now goes to Blackfriars not Waterloo, 40 now Clerkenwell Green instead of Fenchurch St, 388 to Liverpool St instead of Elephant & Castle and a bunch of wtf others

nashwan, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

Is this the Daily Mail comments pages. Case Law already states a pedestrian already established on the road has right of way. As she was. The Highway Code says something similar. Read the judgement. She was found to be half at fault. In the City of London there are some incredibly arsey macho and aggressive cyclists. He was likely going to fast to stop. Which is reckless.

kraudive, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

He was going 10-15mph and the judge said he was ‘calm and reasonable’

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

Nearly got hit by two cyclists on a pelican crossing this evening so I have little sympathy with the guy.

koogs, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

xxp ah yeah, the daily mail famously a fan of cyclists...

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

i side with the scooterers

imago, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

Fuck scooterers, cyclists should be allowed to chase them off the road and streets

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

what about longboarders

imago, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

I was biking through Soho daily on a previous commute/job and can confirm peds with or without phones who step on the road without looking are still the most disgusting savages, peace

nashwan, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

Who run these streets?

Rollerbladers>people on phones>>>>>addison lee>buses>cars>>>>>cyclists>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>scooterers

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

no they are nice pls go back to daily mail xp

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

You left out the worst species of all, zone 1 runners!

stress tweeting (gyac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

just wanna squawk about some of these wild bus re-routes that totally snuck up on me - 4 now goes to Blackfriars not Waterloo, 40 now Clerkenwell Green instead of Fenchurch St, 388 to Liverpool St instead of Elephant & Castle and a bunch of wtf others

― nashwan

AIUI this is part of a re-balancing that shifts some of the bus coverage out of central London (which is already very well covered with public transport options) into outer London, and in the context of falling numbers of people using the bus overall I haven't seen any that seems especially wtf but I haven't paid especially close attention.

Tim, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

(I've been noticing announcements for a few weeks on the 388 fwiw, which is the only one of the affected routes I use with any regularity)

Tim, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

was cycling in Soho/Mayfair this weekend which is something i would normally never do and yes tourists step onto the road as though they hate life. it is like playing crash bandicoot and I cycle like an elderly dutch grandmother.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

if it’s anything like my tourist experience it’s because my neck does one thing thing while my brain is trying to work out the concepts of L-R, and my legs are going “just a road nbd”.

i always feel incredibly tense on oxford street not just because it’s usually hell but because the poor bus drivers both have to move the bus at a reasonable speed while also knowing at any moment a blithe young european (or whatever) will step out looking in entirely the wrong direction.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 06:14 (four years ago) link

Don't get me started on poor bus drivers. There's definitely something about being a tourist which means they stumble about in a daze in a way they never would in their own countries.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 06:32 (four years ago) link

tbf to tourists, they’re very often the only people waiting for the lights to turn green before crossing the road as well. It’s not something British people tend to do (vs crossing when you don’t see any cars coming).

ShariVari, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 06:36 (four years ago) link

tbf to tourists, I was nearly in the path of a car the other day because a cluster of them decided the edge of the pavement was a fine place to stop suddenly, blithely unaware of anyone who might have been still crossing behind them.

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 07:08 (four years ago) link

Campaign for the glowering at people who stop at the end of escalators / just inside tube carriage doors.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 07:14 (four years ago) link

Or the people who stand by the exit doors of the bus. If you're getting off at the next stop, fine, but any further, at least turn so you're facing the road and squeeze yourself up against the glass panel by the seats. And take the fucking backpack off while you're at it.

Bloody Snail, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 07:49 (four years ago) link

Just saw a scooterer sailing down a bus lane, fuck’s saaaaake

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 07:54 (four years ago) link

Or the people who stand by the exit doors of the bus. If you're getting off at the next stop, fine, but any further, at least turn so you're facing the road and squeeze yourself up against the glass panel by the seats. And take the fucking backpack off while you're at it.

― Bloody Snail, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 07:49 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah, the greater-spotted Fjallraven Wanker

imago, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:35 (four years ago) link

After two decades as a London resident, having to commute frequently via Shepherd's Bush was my first real taste of folks barrelling onto a Tube train without letting people off. I was ready to blame West Londoners en masse for this garbage behaviour, but, tbh, this might be the first time in 20 years where I'm regularly fighting the flow. (Change from eastbound Central to southbound Overground/National Rail at SB around 7pm, but greater numbers are getting on my Tube to go into town).

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:18 (four years ago) link

On one of the Boris buses rn and the top deck is sweatier than Raab being asked a question he doesn’t like

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

I tell you what's great - my kids going basically anywhere they want, off-peak, for either nothing (buses, trams) or 75p single (rail, Tube). What's not great - they don't ever want to leave the house.

(This is 11-15 Oyster photocard).

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

(xp) Just off one. I had the added annoyance of sitting in a seat where the window had been left open and so was wet, I then moved over to the 'aisle seat' and then had to tell a succession of slack-jawed dumbos: "The seat's wet" *uncomprehending look* "It's wet", "The seat's wet" *uncomprehending look* "It's wet, see?", "The seat's wet" *uncomprehending look* "Wet!". Eventually a guy decided to sit on it anyway - if he gets piles it's not my problem. Also, a young kind of homeless looking guy couldn't find a seat on the upper deck so decided to sit at the top of the stairs and so landed himself the task of telling yet more slack-jawed dumbos, "There's no seats", "There's no seat, mates", and after someone was still advancing up the stairs, after he'd told him twice, "There's no seats! Why'd you think I'm fucking sitting here?"

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

I had a similar experience at embankment the other day. I almost never take the tube and was reminded why - there were legit 12-deep clusters of people all standing where they’d stopped (just off the stairs) and ignoring a TfL worker with a megaphone exhorting them to MOVE DOWN THE PLATFORM. Many parts of the network would be improved by some kind of gentle crowd shovel to disperse people more efficiently. As it was, I shoved my way through the mass and found an empty space literally seconds further up.

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

I seem to recall the Tory press going nuts about Red Ken's GLC cutting the child bus fare to 5p in the early 80s. Now it's free and no one seems to think it's a communist plot.

Alba, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

That’s the death of local print journalism for you. Gideon must be asleep at the wheel.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link


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