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even at my age (40s)

the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

At any age tbh.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

Can confirm (30s). Just likelier at such a young age, is all.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

It seems like she understands what she is saying and I bet she shares those views and—maybe more significantly—that weird meme sensibility

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

14 is maybe old enough to form and articulate hot takes such as these, but she looks 10

husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

Yeah but she is 14

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

just sayin

husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

The 'imprisoned' girl strikes me as genuine, in that she seems like a bright kid who felt totally estranged from her peers in school, probably was teased, bullied and ostracized, with too little support from teachers or counselors. Chances are good her parents encouraged her to respond combatively and righteously, because this was their own method of coping with opposition, thus escalating the whole dynamic until it reached the place seen in her video. btw, she looks 14 to me.

Not sure how all this bitter socialization will play out for her in adulthood, but the odds are, not well. She's all primed to go down with her guns blazing. Figuratively, let's hope.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

Not sure how all this bitter socialization will play out for her in adulthood, but the odds are, not well. She's all primed to go down with her guns blazing. Figuratively, let's hope.

― A is for (Aimless)

but one never really knows, does one? all this talk of "owning" and "destroying" by people who don't seem to have a firm grasp on the difference between fantasy and reality at the best of times...

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

The bile, black and white thinking, and the way that e.g. the "women are cool" video weirdly drifts between grand evolutionary psych pronouncements and bitter references to high school relationships and social dynamics do seem pretty credibly adolescent to me. Will admit that I would probably be less scandalized (and also less sympathetic) if she were a boy bc boys are obv monsters.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

that article was pretty terrible. I'm not sure what a lone example like this is really supposed to tell us

rob, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

alex jones seems pretty credibly adolescent to me!

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

I'm not sure what a lone example like this is really supposed to tell us

She didn't pick up this shtick in a vacuum and I guarantee you she'll inspire more heinous content (and worse) in the near future if she keeps or expands her audience base over time.

Simon H., Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

There's been lots of good reporting on YouTube's complete fucked-upness (like the Bloomberg piece that's linked in the article), but this one doesn't tell us anything new. I probably wouldn't care if it weren't being presented as news, but since it is, this is borderline malpractice imo:

"Indeed, one of Soph’s messages seems to be that in a world where the adults who have grown rich through technology took the implications of that technology seriously, she wouldn’t exist. She’s a problem, she seems to be saying, of YouTube’s own making."

I get that the existence of this person is disturbing, but that doesn't make this a good article nor does it excuse sending what I assume is a shitload of traffic her way.

rob, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

I mean I def agree that the direct linking and "no, seriously, watch it" demand was not helpful

Simon H., Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

The framing was the way a liberal media org can use compelling content that is politically off brand without owning it themselves

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

She debates adults on the left with eloquence and she laughs nonchalantly at systems of power. When I asked Soph why she relies so heavily on irony, her reply was typically curt: “the current paradigm does not deserve to be taken seriously.”

Curt. Also, facile and without content. This is just the usual adolescent scorn and hubris, but attached to a larger vocabulary and a more accomplished mimicry of maturity. All those youtube views are going to reinforce her like crazy and tend to freeze her into this persona far into adulthood. I would not want to be her, no matter how many followers she gathers or how much money she harvests off this notoriety.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

Hate to see someone frozen in adulthood with merely a high vocabulary and facile opinions

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

Kind of like seeing the small town high school quarterback who led his team to the state 4A championship, never leaves town, and rests on his laurels.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

she’s pretty much lil tay with extra fascism

maura, Thursday, 16 May 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link

Where did this Imam Tawhidi grifter pop up from?

"the left is more violent than even Isis" lol

anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

odds are high that "the left" being referenced in that quote is some shit like Mao's Revolutionary Guard from 50 years ago, before almost every member of ISIS was born.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

Off-topic, I made this, not sure what do do with it (Dankula has blocked me already) so I'm putting it here.

https://i.imgur.com/a4PXAMU.jpg

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

odds are high that "the left" being referenced in that quote is some shit like Mao's Revolutionary Guard from 50 years ago, before almost every member of ISIS was born.

Given that he was telling his interviewer he was worried for her safety because "the left is more violent than even Isis" this seems unlikely!

anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

Ah, then he must be referring to the imaginary "left" that lives in his mind alongside the dancing elves.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 25 May 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

careful now, some of them have heavy milkshakery

anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

A group of Mennonites showing up to protest the Klan is the most Ohio shit in the entire world and I'm loving it https://t.co/fb336pnNhH

— Neverwinter DSA Co-Chair (@thepoeticgopher) May 25, 2019

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

Breitbart, Ben Shapiro "bridged the gap" between Fox News and Stormfront for this pair of white supremacist terrorists.

That's the purpose the alt-right was created to serve, y'all.

It's literally the reason they exist. pic.twitter.com/NjXY0ZSRKP

— Gwen Snyder is uncivil (@gwensnyderPHL) May 27, 2019

Twitter thread charting the radicalization of a white nationalist via Facebook likes

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 07:08 (four years ago) link

I hear that Ben Shapiro isn't considered alt-right by people in the alt-right because he's Jewish.

adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link

he may not consider himself alt-right, but he is alt-right adjacent

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

It's good that alt right types are engaging in sectarianism and authenticity arguments, but I don't think the rest of us need bother to distinguish.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link

These stupid labels. He may not be their boyfriend but they sure are seeing a lot of each other.

Yerac, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

at least he says he is a Conservative, which is preferable to these 'classical liberal / the left left me' balloons.

anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link

A federal judge has dropped all charges against three men who were indicted on conspiracy charges for inciting riots across California. The members of RAM were ordered to be released today in an LA courtroom. Reporting for @CourthouseNews

— Nathan Solis (@CNSNathan) June 3, 2019

I know better than to expect courts to protect us from these shithead but goddamn this is infuriating

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link

Jordan Peterson bringing us the real deal, an elite message board slated to render ILX obsolete:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jun/13/jordan-peterson-launches-anti-censorship-site-thinkspot

pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link

That'll inevitably be a hub for coordinating harassment, so hope that people will be ready to contact whatever payment company they decide to use.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

Besides, I thought voat was already a '1st amendment alternative to reddit' or some such.

pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

I think the idea here is to replace Patreon. They're creating a structure for monetizing hatred and harassment.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

Hatreon

dan selzer, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

was a real site for neonazis
https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/12/how-hate-speech-crowdfunding-outfit-hatreon-crept-back-online/

adam the (abanana), Friday, 14 June 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link

Dylan Roof used a Nazi go-between to send a 12-page letter to Tucker Carlson.

https://hatetrackers.blogspot.com/2019/06/mass-murderer-dylann-roof-using-outside.html?m=1

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 14 June 2019 02:30 (four years ago) link

Ben Shapiro is a complete fraud.

What truly "pro-life" person would get mad over Trump not slaughtering hundreds of people to avenge a flying robot?

Unfollow @benshapiro en masse.

— Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet) June 21, 2019

alt-right on alt-right crime

anvil, Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

you hate to see it

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

let me wearily sigh and say that ben shapiro isn't really "alt-right" he's just a republican

goole, Sunday, 23 June 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

Jordan Peterson bringing us the real deal, an elite message board slated to render ILX obsolete:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jun/13/jordan-peterson-launches-anti-censorship-site-thinkspot

― pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:19 (one week ago) Permalink

this site will exclusively be used by neo-nazis and white supremacists and also like fred said be used as a site to coordinate harrassment.

good work, jordan peterson!

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 23 June 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link

truly restoring the integrity of the public sphere, just as in ancient athens. what a moron.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 23 June 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

Once the integrity of the public sphere has been restored, a true marketplace of ideas can be launched. As logic prevails, uncluttered by onerous regulation and regressive suppression, the ideas will break their chains and inexorably rise to the top, like a meritocratic cream!

anvil, Sunday, 23 June 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyDuqQ-Obcs

cursed boomer memes not alt right sorry needed to put this somewhere

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, 24 June 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

it's a start

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 29 June 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link


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